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Philosopher13 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:06:24 PM)

You gals around here have been watching too much "Law and Order" the whole basis of being a slave is complete surrender. Where in the word surrender does force come in? A slave can leave at anytime, and in fact if she doesn't  want to serve then why the hell would I want her? She has to want to stay in the relationship force is some rape fantasy BS that has no place in M/s.

Gregory
"One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson



Missokyst -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:07:43 PM)

Beats me why it matters to you.  You cant do them all, ya know?  People get pissy about that slave sub jackalope deal, when all they have to do is open up a dialog with whoever it is they are interested in and.. wow.. this is the unique part.. get to know what they think.
OR,, do you think that if everyone adopted YOUR way, that all you would have to do is find someone with slave, and stake a claim?
Labels have been done to death.  Communication is in this year (IhopeIhope)
Kyst



MadRabbit -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:09:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

That would require effort-rather than laughing.

I'll just laugh instead.


Boy, that mirror has room for a third if you want to take a look as well [:D]



hopelessfool -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:09:27 PM)

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Slavery (also called thralldom) is a social-economic system under which certain persons — known as slaves — are deprived of personal freedom and compelled to work. Slaves are held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase, or birth, and are deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to receive compensation (such as wages) in return for their labor. As such, slavery is one form of unfree labor. In its narrowest sense, the word slave refers to people who are treated as the property of another person, household, company, corporation or government. This is referred to as chattel slavery.


So... Umm... What part of that is consenual?

ETA: -copied from Wiki... God I loves the internets-

This is MY personal Belief and Opinion Milage may vary, you owe me a cookie ^_^;;



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:13:10 PM)

what about voluntary slavery?

my slaves are free to leave whenever they want, but they dont.



Lynnxz -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:16:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

what about voluntary slavery?

my slaves are free to leave whenever they want, but they dont.



If you really want to get down to it... voluntary slavery is an oxymoron.

But, most people don't, and are happy to go along with whatever people choose to call themselves, because they realize that.. O dear...it's not really hurting anyone.



hopelessfool -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:17:04 PM)

I believe people who have the right and ability to leave are submissive (as i mentioned in a previous post)  Very deeply submissive some down right slave like in nature, but as long as they have the ability to leave they are not slaves to me

To me what I do is joyful, it brings enjoyment and pleasure to what it is I do. Slavery to me is not joyful it is torture and abuse and HELL

Why should I say my joy Is equalivalnt to there hell.



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:20:17 PM)

for the same reason you want grass to be pink i guess



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:21:34 PM)

i do that all the time. last job i tried to get, i put on the app i was african american, they didnt believe me though



Lynnxz -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:21:59 PM)

Get your girls straight. It's me with the pink grass. 

*Pulls Hope into the tub with her*

Tubs are more flame retardant than corners!



Lynnxz -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:23:47 PM)

Of course they didn't believe you. Skin color is something you can see on the outside- unlike someone's feeling of submission... slavery... desire to get spanked once in a while....



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:23:48 PM)

i thought maybe you both had the same master and were speaking as one.


sorry for the mix up



hopelessfool -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:23:57 PM)

I want pink grass? Really, -goes and gets the spray paint..-

if your talking about an earlier post, it was more sarcasm then anything. People will believe what they choose and want to believe... ^_^ If someone wants to believe the grass is pink (mine currently Is, Ive been using pink spray paint on a toy box) Then let them believe the grass is pink, Is it hurting you? causing you undue stress, Killing you in some way shape or form? I dont think it is, (unless your inhaling the spray paint fumes) But what harm is it for what YOU think is a sub to say they are a slave or for what YOU think is a slave to say they are a sub...

Maybe Im slavewordphobic, Maybe It just squicks me to think of myself as a slave Even if thats true, Who the fucking HELL is it hurting to be a sub, or bottom or Frilly fru of the fancy pink grass?



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:24:59 PM)

well you said i could say whatever i want as long as it isnt hurting anyone. 



hopelessfool -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:25:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

I know Masters who wish to be called slaves, and vice versa.

Example: I dont think submission is a Kink quality. You can be submissive and not be spanked or punished or Anything be totally vanilla. Just like you can have kink with out being submissive.

Some believe you are either fully vanilla (not submissive) or D/s

Some believe all of one gender are submissive and all of another are Dominant.

Some believe the Sky is purple and the grass is pink...

As long as you have free thinking people, they will all have their own explination of what it is they are and seek and expect. If you dont think them a slave, simply move on, find someone else. The best way to piss people off is tell them what they are isnt what they are.



No I had pink grass too ^_^



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:26:38 PM)

krylon or rusto?
fatcap or NYthin?



Philosopher13 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:28:10 PM)

This just goes to prove why i say that subs are subs and slaves are slaves because the fact of the matter is its quite obvious you don't understand what i refer to as "the rope of the mind" is about. The whole idea of complete surrender has to be voluntary and it has to have an open door policy or then what is she giving to me? How else do you define surrender? At the moment she decided to leave and I were to make her stay then I would be taking from her, similiar to the way a rapist takes from his victim. A Master does not take from a slave and there is no dynamic in the M/s relationship that resembles taking.

Gregory
"One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson



BitaTruble -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:29:19 PM)

~FR~

One word simply will not suffice to define someone so complex as a human being ... but to start a dialogue, it's helpful if you're seeking compatibility for long term relationships. Anyone can look at my actions, demeanor or philosophy's and call me bottom, slave, submissive, tart, trollop etc .. but their vision is going to be limited by what I allow to be seen. Only Himself gets the whole transparent picture. For those who are so quick to judge the varied people on this site, I must wonder at how transparent you think those folks are being with, literally, virtual strangers? Boxes are great for holding items ... not so great for holding people.

Bottom line, if you're looking for a slave and the person with whom you are communicating doesn't fit your personal definition, simply move on. They'll surely fit the definition of someone. There's no one size fits all and there is no one true way. If there were, anyone could hook up with anyone else, there would never be a divorce or release and the world would truly be Utopia.

Ain't gonna happen.



Lynnxz -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:30:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

well you said i could say whatever i want as long as it isn't hurting anyone. 


Well if you think about it, calling yourself  'African American' on the job application hurt you- when you lost the job.

*Wanders off pondering the possiblity of using Manic Panic to achieve 'pink grass' down there*



masterlink65 -> RE: Slaves who are subs (8/6/2008 9:30:52 PM)

this is all hightalk as a result of all the paint fumes. i have some german fatcaps, and NY thincaps. thats about all i use anymore



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