Outlaw85
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lemme make a quote from Leo Tolstoy's ( a russian author) Hadji Murad. It's about a Chechen leader and his struggles with the Russians as well as some of the other factions in the 1850s. The author served in the caucasians (where chechnya is located, and had personally met the real hadji murad, though the book is a historical fictionised account of his adventures)
I'm reading from an original 1912 publication of the english translation of the book, so when I quote pages, that's where I'm quoting from.
I'm quoting from page 202. and this will help you to understand why the chechens are so brutal to the russian citizens. Keep in mind, for the past 200 yeras teh russians have brutalised the chechens in far greater extremes than anything the chechens themselves have done. Think along the lines of what the United States did to the native americans. the russians just weren't as successful is all, the chechens more resiliant.. anyways, the quote. "No one spoke of hatred of the Russians. The feeling experienced by all the Chechens. from the youngest to the oldeset, was stronger than hate. It was not hatred, for they did not regard those russian dogs as human beings; but it was such repulsion disgust and perpelxity at the senseless cruelty of these creatures, that the desire to exterminate them--like the desire to exterminate rats, poisonous spiders, or wolves--was as natural an instinct as that of self-preservation.
I could, if nessisary, go into quoting examples of raids the russians did on villages in the region, and while the book is a work of fiction, tolstoy wrote out of his own experience as a soldier there. The truth of hte matter is, the chechens have been fighting the russians in a gurilla war for decades, just as vicious as the muhajideen in iraq or elsewhere, but you never hear about it. the russians never publisize their spetznaz being killed in the vast forests by ambush, or their convoys being blown up. the chechen side is never publisized, because the russians don't want it publisized. that way when the chechens attack some theater in moscow, they can publisize that and make themselves out to be victems.
the chechens have one of the least abilities of all the "seperatist" groups in the world, to broadcast their message to the west. russia is very effective at blocking it off. seeing sa their own message cannot reach the outside world and they cannot gain world support, and thus making a legitimate military on miltiary gurilla war much less effective, they are forced into using much less honourable methods.
they will never just accept russian occupation, never ever. they will never stop killing russians and russian civilians till they get what they want or they themselves are completely whiped off the planet right down to the last child, and as proud as they are, they would rather that happen then to just submit to russian rule.
I'm not saying the russians are some vile race that needs to be whiped out, they are an empire, and just like any empire from china, to the united states to ancient rome, they suck and prey on anything and eveyrthing weaker than them to get waht they need to sustain their power and wealth.
as far as georgia goes, the US can't just stand by. they can't. georgia was there for them, they could NOT just stand by even if they wanted to, no ally would ever come to US aid ever again. Europe isn't going to tolerate this, things are going to have to die down or escelate into a very serious world wide conflict.
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RE: Russia invades Georgia - 
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So much for those Israeli advisors, huh? 
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