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My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 3:35:25 PM

TreasureKY

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Reading yet again another thread where the subject is arguing over the difference between a submissive and a slave, and between a D/s and an M/s relationship, I have decided that I will no longer use any of those descriptors...

Should anyone ask me if I'm submissive or slave, I'll say I'm Firm's. We don't have an M/s or D/s relationship, we have a F/t (Firmhand/treasure) relationship.

Screw "official" definitions. I defy anyone to come up with an outside authoritative source for the definition of an F/t relationship.

< Message edited by TreasureKY -- 8/8/2008 3:38:15 PM >

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:14:09 PM

SimplyMichael

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I defy anyone to come up with an outside authoritative source for the definition of an F/t relationship.

How about "unique and fullfilling"?

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:18:21 PM

gypsygrl

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I'm a floor-sitter!

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:19:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

quote:

I defy anyone to come up with an outside authoritative source for the definition of an F/t relationship.

How about "unique and fullfilling"?

'F/t'? that in a nutshell is the problem; nobody wants to say it out loud.

Fart!!!!!

Fathers agressively raising transvestites.

Just SAY it.

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:28:13 PM

Owner4SexSlave

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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl
I'm a floor-sitter!

I think you labeled yourself that back a month ago if not a little longer!

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:30:49 PM

Owner4SexSlave

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Wait....

Submissive vs. slave vs. good little girl vs. fuck slut vs. prisoner vs. servant vs. cock worshiper vs. treasure vs. floor sitter... append other labels as desired.

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:33:57 PM

Owner4SexSlave

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OH screw it all!! I'm going to use vanilla words. She's my girl or the ever popular loving yet demeaning word bitch.

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:43:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

I'm a floor-sitter!

And what a cute floor sitter you are!!!

Jewel

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:50:48 PM

ResidentSadist

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Im just glad I don't have this confusion in my life.

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 4:55:27 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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It's very common around here to just say "I'm with X" or "Whatever he says I am"

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 5:13:42 PM

NumberSix

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

It's very common around here to just say "I'm with X" or "Whatever he says I am"

Hold the phone, EM.

Let's just say you call me 'X'.........ok, I can feature that.
and I call you 'twat'.

NOW, you have more letters in your name than me, and that is topping from the bottom, dont'cha 'hink? just a little?

X

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 5:19:00 PM

outlier

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

Should anyone ask me if I'm submissive or slave, I'll say I'm Firm's. We don't have an M/s or D/s relationship, we have a F/t (Firmhand/treasure) relationship.

Screw "official" definitions. I defy anyone to come up with an outside authoritative source for the definition of an F/t relationship.

I have one I have one I have used in the past
when someone has been rude enough to ask about
the "exact nature" of a relationship I had.

"None of your business"

Actually, one time when one woman kept coming around
to why the woman I was with and I were not married. And
kept circling back to it different ways, I eventually turned to
her husband and asked him; "How do you tell you wife politely
that something is none of her damn business so she will hear it?"
That she heard.

My philosophy is simple. Until you are invited into it, the exact
nature of a relationship I am in is none of your business. And I
see no reason why anyone would think it is their business.

I don't inquire into other people's relationships in the real world
and I require the same curtsey from them. I have to be pushed
to get there, but I refuse to let other people take advantage of the
fact that I have decent manners, so after a point I don't.

Treasure, even though I had the pleasure of meeting you, I am certain
you could smile ever so sweetly and deliver the same message. Much
more politely than I could.

Outlier

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 5:31:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

I'm a floor-sitter!

And what a cute floor sitter you are!!!

Jewel

Thank you, ma'am. :)

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 5:32:58 PM

gypsygrl

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl
I'm a floor-sitter!

I think you labeled yourself that back a month ago if not a little longer!

Probably longer. :)

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 5:35:35 PM

E2Sweet

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

I'm a floor-sitter!

So in continuing on that theme, if one were to, say, have a fetish for crawling on his or her belly for the dominant's pleasure, that person could then be tagged... floor polisher?...

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 6:31:06 PM

leadership527

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
Should anyone ask me if I'm submissive or slave, I'll say I'm Firm's. We don't have an M/s or D/s relationship, we have a F/t (Firmhand/treasure) relationship.

Well yes, but you're doing your F/t relationship all wrong don't you know...

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 6:45:31 PM

IrishMist

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

Reading yet again another thread where the subject is arguing over the difference between a submissive and a slave, and between a D/s and an M/s relationship, I have decided that I will no longer use any of those descriptors...

Should anyone ask me if I'm submissive or slave, I'll say I'm Firm's. We don't have an M/s or D/s relationship, we have a F/t (Firmhand/treasure) relationship.

Screw "official" definitions. I defy anyone to come up with an outside authoritative source for the definition of an F/t relationship.

LMAO
You so fucking ROCK girl

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 6:48:02 PM

IrishMist

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ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

OH screw it all!! I'm going to use vanilla words. She's my girl or the ever popular loving yet demeaning word bitch.

Hey, wait a minute.........
Babe
In
Total
Control of
Herself
is sooooooooooooooooooooooo not demeaning

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 6:51:37 PM

NumberSix

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I am just winging it here; but:

is it conceiveably as simple as a slave sucks you off, swallows, rises and gets you a beer, and a submissive sucks you off, swallows, stops and gargles without permission before bringing you a beer?

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RE: My personal solution to the sub/slave debate... - 8/8/2008 6:53:13 PM

IrishMist

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

I am just winging it here; but:

is it conceiveably as simple as a slave sucks you off, swallows, rises and gets you a beer, and a submissive sucks you off, swallows, stops and gargles without permission before bringing you a beer?

OMG
Now that...is simply...understandable

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