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ORIGINAL: DavidS8ist
Not trying to be argumentative, but I disagree about both cleaning and sharpness.  I have knives which cut easier than a scalpel and easily clean with a soft cotton rag.  I wouldn't cut two different people on the same evening with the same blade, but then, I don't interact casually - there's a commited dynamic before I'll bleed someone.

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ORIGINAL: WizardOfDelphi

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ORIGINAL: DavidS8ist
Not trying to be argumentative, but I disagree about both cleaning and sharpness.  I have knives which cut easier than a scalpel and easily clean with a soft cotton rag.  I wouldn't cut two different people on the same evening with the same blade, but then, I don't interact casually - there's a commited dynamic before I'll bleed someone.

My understanding also is that its very difficult to adequately clean a knife.  The problem is in things you can not see.  Most knife blades on the microscopic level have all sorts of irregularities including tiny indentations that can retain blood or other matter.  This makes them very difficult to sterilize unless you happen to own and use an autoclave.  Also, if you're drawing blood with your knives are you using a hospital grade disinfectant with that cotton rag?  Personally I invested in one of those barber shop barbacide jars that I fill with hospital approved disinfectant (kills just about everything including HIV & HEP).  Even though I don't cut with them, my knives always get soaked and sterilized between uses.  Actually, I clean most of my toys with disinfectant between uses.

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ORIGINAL: patina

Hi

I am confused on something.  i was told that knife play was just using the edge of a very dull knife and it was scraped along the skin, as if you were brushing crumbs off your leg. 

But another Dom told me that knife play is taking the pointed tip of a knif and cutting out a piece of flesh from a girl ass and yhen spraying alochol on it.  This same dom told me i would regret not accepting him as my master.  I really don't thnk what he said was true but wanting to make sure of what it is.

can someone tell me what knife play is? 

patina

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ORIGINAL: DavidS8ist

Excellent points which will probably lead to a tangental thread.  First, let's think about what we mean about "cleaning".  I wipe mine off with a clean rag, that's it.  Then I leave the knife alone unsheathed  or unfolded for a few days.  Is that enough?  I believe so and here's why.

HIV is a very fragile bug.  It dies rapidly ex vitro.  So I'm not really worried about it for that reason and for the simple reason that I know anyone I cut well enough to know they're not infected.  Risk?  Slight.  There's always a slight chance.  But it's less than getting struck by lightening.

HEP-C is more worrisome.  It can survive for days - in a moist environment.  I leave the knife out, dry, maybe in the sun if the weather's nice, I'm not giving it more thought.  Too, as in HIV, I'm not cutting anyone known to be infected.

Other bugs?  Frankly, I'm more worried about the stuff I may come in contact with - bugs that live on the skin, staph, strep, tinea corporis, things like that.

I think it's very important to be aware of the potential for infection, but at the same time, treat that awareness rationally.  We've become a nation of germophobes (c'mon, folks, how many of you have more than one bottle of hand sanitizer in the home?  Use antibacterial soap?  Antibacterial dish detergent?  Wear latex body suits before preparing chicken???), and much of that fear is unfounded.  Reasonable attention will keep reasonable people reasonably safe from infection.

Do I think you're wrong taking the steps you do to disinfect your knives?  No.  Do I think it overkill?  Personally, yes, but that doesn't mean you should stop what you're doing.  In my mind, with some of my blades costing hundreds of dollars, I'm not going to risk damaging them with anything but a light coating of oil occasionally.  But honestly, I'm more concerned about the person sneezing behind me when I'm doing a cutting than I am about infecting Gem or anyone else with a bug on the blade.

As usual, my opinion only.

D.
"You had your whole life to prepare for this moment. Why aren't you ready?"
- David Mamet, "Spartan"

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ORIGINAL: DavidS8ist
Excellent points which will probably lead to a tangental thread.  First, let's think about what we mean about "cleaning".  I wipe mine off with a clean rag, that's it.  Then I leave the knife alone unsheathed  or unfolded for a few days.  Is that enough?  I believe so and here's why.

HEP-C is more worrisome.  It can survive for days - in a moist environment.  I leave the knife out, dry, maybe in the sun if the weather's nice, I'm not giving it more thought.  Too, as in HIV, I'm not cutting anyone known to be infected.