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FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 3:10:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		GT started a thread yesterday, that got me thinking of my old fascination with of all things, the elusive Tasmanian Tiger.  In speaking about it to someone last night, we came to the conclusion that it was the fear this creature invoked in me that has me so fascinated with it.  Well, most of the 1933 film of the last known Tas-Tiger in captivity is mainly fascinating but the first clip of it's primitively gaping mouth stirs a bit of fear in me.

My childhood mainly took place in the 70's.  A time rich in the search of elusive monsters like Big Foot, the Lockness Monster, UFOs, and Sunday Morning Monster movies.  We didnt have cable or the internet so most of my fears fed from my own imagination. My love affair with fear began.

I was raised along the bayous of south Louisiana.  We had more than our share of ghost stories. My area has many mansions and plantations from a forgotten world along with ghost stories attached to each and every one. So many in fact, I am unable to share all of them without writing a novel.  In a two hour drive from me, The Myrtle Plantation is known as the most haunted place in America.

Also, there is local mythical monster or boogeyman for the kiddies known as the Loup Garou (fr. werewolf) or often known as a Rougarou or Rue Garou (fr, road wolf).  With Mardi Gras and our frequent reveling,  we have developed "the Rougarou" to have two meanings. Besides the monster, the term has become synonymous with staying out all night or having insomnia. ie "I made the rougarou last night" is a saying here.

Anyway, these little fear triggers developed from long ago....I've have always found a bit pleasurable.  In your local area, are there these kinds of myths or legends that you can share? What childhood boogeymans, myths, legends, ghost stories, or monsters invoked fear in you?  Anyone near any el chupacabra sightings?

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 4:56:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally for me none of the supernatural type legends and myths ever really did the trick of inspiring fear. Zombies, werewolves, vampires, bigfoot, chupacabra, ghosts, etc can all suck it as far as I'm concerned. I'd be more interested in getting a safe distance away and studying them than quaking with fear.

The thing that always terrified me as a kid was less on the supernatural end. Those gray alien things. Now those. Not sure why. But just the look of them bothers me. Now for all I know, if they existed, they could be cool as hell. They could pick you up and be all hey, how's it going, want to hang out with us for a bit? We're kind of bored, let's play cards. But something about them in illustrations just seems to trigger that feeling of wrong for me. Something is off. Maybe it's the big soulless looking eyes, who knows. But when I was a kid, those were the stuff of nightmares.


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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 6:53:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aliens would scare the shit out of me for sure.
and bigfoot or the other semi modern "monsters" are all kind of silly.
personally, I want to see a Kraken, a hideous squid, crab, whale monster that eats ships....sounds damn awesome to me.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 6:55:24 AM   
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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 6:56:39 AM   
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I want to see a Kraken, a hideous squid, crab, whale monster that eats ships....sounds damn awesome to me.



only if you were not on the ship...


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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 7:03:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		very true....maybe one eating another ship. like a cruise liner full of aliens. 

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 9:49:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		...when i was a child the most scary thing in the world was the space between my wardrobe and the ceiling in the shadows of the night............

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 10:21:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had the good fortune to live on tribal land when I was younger, and  we were getting high or smoking grape vine, or a little from column A and a little from Column B,  we would walk through the woods. The most terrifying thing was to hear the sound of an owl and you didn't look behind you.  You did not turn around.  You would become physically deformed and spritually destroyed.  I want to say it was the white owl.
I have only superficially gone back to research why or where it comes from. It wasn't until 1978 that Native Americans were allowed to practice their religion. The next group of writings is......a bunch of stuff about totem animals.  Eventually, it moved to shape shifting.
I do remember it made Big Foot sound like small potatoes.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 11:07:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I only remember a brief period of time when I was a small child, being afraid a monster alligator was waiting under my bed to bite me on the ankle if I got up to pee in the middle of the night.

I live in Iowa, the odds of a gator under my bed.........slim to none. I was not a rational child.


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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 12:00:50 PM   
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I only remember a brief period of time when I was a small child, being afraid a monster alligator was waiting under my bed to bite me on the ankle if I got up to pee in the middle of the night.



I have it on good authority that IT is still there.  Be safe!  Pee in the bed.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 12:47:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I was a kid, they only had antenna T.V.  (I know, a lonnnnnnnnnng time ago).  One evening, my mother and I sat down to watch the latest Hitchcock movie (probably a year old by then) in its "broadcast premiere".  My mom shared a love of scary things with me.

Now, I had never been bothered by vampires or werewolves or banshees...but something in that movie must have stuck in my subconscious craw because to this day, I feel like this:  birds are pretty from a distance but I no way in hell want the SOBs near me.  I have been known to duck while driving a car if a duck flew too low in front of the windshield.  On my way home after being discharged from the 82nd, I stayed in a motel.  I came out of the room the next morning and on this power line was a freaking line-up of some sort of black birds and I swear, they were all eyeing me with evil intent.  I guarantee that I made it to my car very fast...me, the former Airborne infantryman/sniper/operations sergeant...leery of birds for God's sake.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 1:16:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		CD I think you need to come to Iowa City in early winter for a visit. Just because there is something I want you to see.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 3:27:00 PM   
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CD I think you need to come to Iowa City in early winter for a visit. Just because there is something I want you to see.

muah ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



Meanie...~teasing grin~...then do I get to show you something I want you to see? 

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 3:28:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bethnai

I had the good fortune to live on tribal land when I was younger, and  we were getting high or smoking grape vine, or a little from column A and a little from Column B,  we would walk through the woods. The most terrifying thing was to hear the sound of an owl and you didn't look behind you.  You did not turn around.  You would become physically deformed and spritually destroyed.  I want to say it was the white owl.
I have only superficially gone back to research why or where it comes from. It wasn't until 1978 that Native Americans were allowed to practice their religion. The next group of writings is......a bunch of stuff about totem animals.  Eventually, it moved to shape shifting.
I do remember it made Big Foot sound like small potatoes.


We do have much scarier things. ( Like the elders) *shivvers*

*smiles* but seriously...

I was never afraid of Zombies, or Vampires.. although the undead thing kinda irks me.. it is out of the natural order of things ya know.. makes my skin crawl.

But shape shifters were always discussed.. and demons ( Oni's) as well.

You learn about all shades.. not just white.. not just black.. but all shades of good and evil and every thing in between when you are studing with the wise women or men of the group. Nothing scarier then realizing that evil does walk the earth.. and your realitives think your the next one in line to take care of problems that come up. LOL

So yeah.. Ghost stories never bugged me... I wanted to *see* them..

Vampires.. sure.. I wanted to see them too.

Shapeshifters.. not so much. Nifty.. but too dangerous.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 3:29:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bethnai

I had the good fortune to live on tribal land when I was younger, and  we were getting high or smoking grape vine, or a little from column A and a little from Column B,  we would walk through the woods. The most terrifying thing was to hear the sound of an owl and you didn't look behind you.  You did not turn around.  You would become physically deformed and spritually destroyed.  I want to say it was the white owl.
I have only superficially gone back to research why or where it comes from. It wasn't until 1978 that Native Americans were allowed to practice their religion. The next group of writings is......a bunch of stuff about totem animals.  Eventually, it moved to shape shifting.
I do remember it made Big Foot sound like small potatoes.


limikkin. A skinwalker can appear as an owl depending upon which legend you're talking about. Sounds like it would have the effects attributed to it that you've described, though the purported effects differ somewhat depending on what tribal beliefs you're talking about. Way smarter than wendigo's, sometimes thought to be former human beings. Always purported to be evil.


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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 3:35:13 PM   
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When I was a kid, they only had antenna T.V.  (I know, a lonnnnnnnnnng time ago).  One evening, my mother and I sat down to watch the latest Hitchcock movie (probably a year old by then) in its "broadcast premiere".  My mom shared a love of scary things with me.

Now, I had never been bothered by vampires or werewolves or banshees...but something in that movie must have stuck in my subconscious craw because to this day, I feel like this:  birds are pretty from a distance but I no way in hell want the SOBs near me.  I have been known to duck while driving a car if a duck flew too low in front of the windshield.  On my way home after being discharged from the 82nd, I stayed in a motel.  I came out of the room the next morning and on this power line was a freaking line-up of some sort of black birds and I swear, they were all eyeing me with evil intent.  I guarantee that I made it to my car very fast...me, the former Airborne infantryman/sniper/operations sergeant...leery of birds for God's sake.



you poor thing CD... my evil ex would take stale bread to the mall with her.. and throw bits at the birds ( we have air rats- gulls here) and whip them into a frenzy at mall entrances, and shopping centers.

Looked just like the damn movie.

Gods I hated that.

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 3:37:09 PM   
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I had the good fortune to live on tribal land when I was younger, and  we were getting high or smoking grape vine, or a little from column A and a little from Column B,  we would walk through the woods. The most terrifying thing was to hear the sound of an owl and you didn't look behind you.  You did not turn around.  You would become physically deformed and spritually destroyed.  I want to say it was the white owl.
I have only superficially gone back to research why or where it comes from. It wasn't until 1978 that Native Americans were allowed to practice their religion. The next group of writings is......a bunch of stuff about totem animals.  Eventually, it moved to shape shifting.
I do remember it made Big Foot sound like small potatoes.


limikkin. A skinwalker can appear as an owl depending upon which legend you're talking about. Sounds like it would have the effects attributed to it that you've described, though the purported effects differ somewhat depending on what tribal beliefs you're talking about. Way smarter than wendigo's, sometimes thought to be former human beings. Always purported to be evil.



*nods nods nods*

I still wouldnt like to cross any of them thanks. LOL

unless they were already friends/realitives or something like that..

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 4:26:12 PM   
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I had the good fortune to live on tribal land when I was younger, and  we were getting high or smoking grape vine, or a little from column A and a little from Column B,  we would walk through the woods. The most terrifying thing was to hear the sound of an owl and you didn't look behind you.  You did not turn around.  You would become physically deformed and spritually destroyed.  I want to say it was the white owl.
I have only superficially gone back to research why or where it comes from. It wasn't until 1978 that Native Americans were allowed to practice their religion. The next group of writings is......a bunch of stuff about totem animals.  Eventually, it moved to shape shifting.
I do remember it made Big Foot sound like small potatoes.


limikkin. A skinwalker can appear as an owl depending upon which legend you're talking about. Sounds like it would have the effects attributed to it that you've described, though the purported effects differ somewhat depending on what tribal beliefs you're talking about. Way smarter than wendigo's, sometimes thought to be former human beings. Always purported to be evil.



*nods nods nods*

I still wouldnt like to cross any of them thanks. LOL

unless they were already friends/realitives or something like that..

Gwyn 


They honestly never bothered me. Though I do have a tendency to study the things that scare people. Thus when I first found out about them as a child the response wasn't fear, but intrigue. The whole if they were real, how do they do what they do, why do they do what they do, what are they really, etc were more appealing than zomgz run! Then again I also realized that running would be kind of futile against something that can turn into things faster than me.

The fear response to them was quite interesting though. If one got mentioned just seeing people stiffen up immediately and change the topic. Though I've noticed a bit of that tendency in the native communtiy towards most things that could be considered occult or supernatural. I remember when some guy brought an owl to one of the pow-wows. My friends were piiiissssseeeeeeddddddd. Almost caused a fight, so I went up to the guy, explained it, petted the owl (such an amazing one too, very calm, very used to people not a bitey one) and they went on their way.


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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 4:32:20 PM   
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They honestly never bothered me. Though I do have a tendency to study the things that scare people. Thus when I first found out about them as a child the response wasn't fear, but intrigue. The whole if they were real, how do they do what they do, why do they do what they do, what are they really, etc were more appealing than zomgz run! Then again I also realized that running would be kind of futile against something that can turn into things faster than me.

The fear response to them was quite interesting though. If one got mentioned just seeing people stiffen up immediately and change the topic. Though I've noticed a bit of that tendency in the native communtiy towards most things that could be considered occult or supernatural. I remember when some guy brought an owl to one of the pow-wows. My friends were piiiissssseeeeeeddddddd. Almost caused a fight, so I went up to the guy, explained it, petted the owl (such an amazing one too, very calm, very used to people not a bitey one) and they went on their way.



Owls do not bother me.. I find them quite beautiful.... ( Damn Harry Potter!)

but after a time in a lodge with my grandma... um.. skinwalkers scare the bejezzus outta me. I still think it is cool... and all.. but out of the things that go bump in the night.. that is the one thing I could get spooked over.

Though I have had severial wicked erotic dreams about them. ~ I am an odd bird.. and I read too much.

Gwyn

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RE: FEAR, Folklore, and Monsters - 8/13/2008 4:47:46 PM   
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They honestly never bothered me. Though I do have a tendency to study the things that scare people. Thus when I first found out about them as a child the response wasn't fear, but intrigue. The whole if they were real, how do they do what they do, why do they do what they do, what are they really, etc were more appealing than zomgz run! Then again I also realized that running would be kind of futile against something that can turn into things faster than me.

The fear response to them was quite interesting though. If one got mentioned just seeing people stiffen up immediately and change the topic. Though I've noticed a bit of that tendency in the native communtiy towards most things that could be considered occult or supernatural. I remember when some guy brought an owl to one of the pow-wows. My friends were piiiissssseeeeeeddddddd. Almost caused a fight, so I went up to the guy, explained it, petted the owl (such an amazing one too, very calm, very used to people not a bitey one) and they went on their way.



Owls do not bother me.. I find them quite beautiful.... ( Damn Harry Potter!)

but after a time in a lodge with my grandma... um.. skinwalkers scare the bejezzus outta me. I still think it is cool... and all.. but out of the things that go bump in the night.. that is the one thing I could get spooked over.

Though I have had severial wicked erotic dreams about them. ~ I am an odd bird.. and I read too much.

Gwyn


Oh yeah, the owl thing is definitely fading out a bit, and mostly was along various tribal lines if I'm remembering correctly. My friends were Lakota. Apparently its a big thing for them, though its always questionable how accurate people are about their myths and legends and things.

Thing to remember is they also have the lamest weaknesses of all time. For example purportedly if you ask them in human form by their name if they're a skinwalker. They die 3 days later. Also while it's variable as to whether non-native ceremonies would do anything to one, I've noticed a common thread in folklore for things like that (vampires for example being thought to traditionally shapeshift as well) to be repeled by faith. Seems variable as to what kind of faith. People tend to assume that it would be the predominant of any culture they're from. But I'd think it would be more nonspecific just based on the similarities of many kinds of legends. A golden apple could work as well as a cross so to speak. Everything depends on who is using it.

I kind of always went by, sure it's bigger and badder than me. Bound to be something like that. So I'll just be smarter.


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