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Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 11:16:18 AM   
Thadius


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Status: offline 		Well those evil Americans are trying to interfere with folks around the world...

http://www.wfp.org/appeals/Wfp_donors/index.asp?section=3&sub_section=4

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 12:17:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where are the 'hate America' liberals when you need them???

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 12:31:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		hmm that number looks about as high as the amount of innocent people killed by murdering blood thirsty republicans in the past 8 years. oh yea that call themselves CHRISTians.buahahahaah.
more like Satanists?  you better believe it.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 12:36:35 PM   
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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 12:37:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before we go off on a screaming tangent here, use the energy to do something important to you. If it's to save energy and cut our dependency on crude oil, do that. If it's to save starving orphans on every continent, do that. Instead of complaining and whining and jittering off ridiculous made-up statistics ~briefly looking at cuckyboy~ and instead of aiding and abetting hatred, do something productive.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 12:40:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ohhhh brother.....even when we try to do something good in this world, there will always be those that find something wrong with it.

Yea yea, but they have to follow christian ethnics if they want the money Blah Blah blah, Everyone has an angle, so shut up and change the world yourself than.


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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 12:54:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Americans are known for their generosity in giving aid to the poor in the form of food, medical supplies and personnel, building basic infrastructure and providing basic education. The Peace Corps are a good example of American philanthropy as is the Red Cross.  This makes me proud of the US, that we step up to help and assist those who are so desperately in need.

Edited to add - There are also folks from some local churches who organize a donation drive and take a bus down to Mexico once or twice a year with clothing and school supplies.  And we have the wonderful volunteers for Doctors Without Borders and Habitat for Humanity as a few other examples.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:00:45 PM   
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An interesting thing I noticed was the jump from pre-2000 to post-2001.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:05:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Will do, Thadius.  I have to change and get to work for a few hours, back on later this evening.  Ciao.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:33:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder what these figures would show if they were related to the number of people in each country. Its easy for a wealthy country with a large population to appear generous - give a lot of money, but if  it was broken down per capita, it may show a completely different picture. I'm not knocking what the government of the US is doing,    ....  well, maybe i am a little, but i don't think it is quite as generous as it appears.   Just saying.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:34:36 PM   
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Yes, but the US spends 498 x that on arms production.

The US spends 10 x more money on military expenditures than the next closest rival nation.

The rest of the world combined spends less than the US.



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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:37:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I figured you would chime in with something like that, which is why I titled the thread the way I did. 

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:40:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I wonder what these figures would show if they were related to the number of people in each country. Its easy for a wealthy country with a large population to appear generous - give a lot of money, but if  it was broken down per capita, it may show a completely different picture. I'm not knocking what the government of the US is doing,    ....  well, maybe i am a little, but i don't think it is quite as generous as it appears.   Just saying.


I am sure you could do a quick look up of the populations of the countries on the list, and figure it out.   You can go to just about any other international charity, and you will see the same sort of thing.  Only the numbers become even more skewed because it includes the donations from citizens.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:41:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I wonder what these figures would show if they were related to the number of people in each country. Its easy for a wealthy country with a large population to appear generous - give a lot of money, but if  it was broken down per capita, it may show a completely different picture. I'm not knocking what the government of the US is doing,    ....  well, maybe i am a little, but i don't think it is quite as generous as it appears.   Just saying.


That isn't the way to do it.
If individuals want to donate that's the way it should be done, not by "governments."
It's just not the job of governments to be doing that kind of thing "on behalf" of individuals.

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 1:47:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the biggest problems for agriculture in the under developed world is the developed world dumping food (as opposed to emergency food aid) which destroys  the local agricultural economy. Both the US and the EU are guilty of subsidizing their farmers and dumping the excess on the under developed world. In fact most aid from the developed world aids the developed world more than the under developed world.

If the US and the EU were serious about helping the under developed world they would stop subsidizing their farmers allow free trade, making their farmers compete with third world farmers. Of course, neither the US or the EU will agree to that and until they do, their aid is meaningless in just about all cases but emergency aid., much of which might not be necessary in a free market. 

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 3:21:37 PM   
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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 3:25:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know those evil Americans don't spend any money on charity at home... Evil bastards, what were they thinking?

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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 3:30:40 PM   
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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 3:35:31 PM   
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RE: Those Evil Americans... - 8/13/2008 3:36:08 PM   
Thadius


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Status: offline 		Yep, just like your last post  very subtle.

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