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8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convention?... - 8/16/2008 8:36:58 AM   
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When I read the word,"another" I said "Whaa?!,that can`t be,lol, I had to read up on this.

This is quite amazing and to my knowledge,unprecedented.

What does this mean?

How the fuck does a Senator not go,to his own parties convention?

I think the explanations will be as interesting and funny,as this news.

There are also a number of republicans who are leaving McCain`s campaign,as well.


This is going to be interesting.

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1786

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/04/uselections2008.johnmccain







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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/16/2008 8:46:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		A matter of consience I suppose.  And inability to hold thier collective noses.
I suspect they will vote Hillary.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/16/2008 8:50:47 AM   
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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/16/2008 8:51:47 AM   
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notice the source of that report????

i do not trust the media!  they report only what they want.  if it will sway something in their favor they report it.  if the info is in opposition to what they believe they ignore it!  the only rag i read is the "National Enquirer"..... .........nuff said!

i say WTF!? 

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/16/2008 6:45:23 PM   
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That always works.

Ummmm,that`s why I posted a rightie site and a UK news outlet.

emm-kay?

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 4:45:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Did you happen to look into the reason why they aren't attending?

Craig, Stevens, Allard (aka Dullard by his own constituents) and Hagel are no surprise. 3 of which are retiring, and one may or may not be legally able to...

The other 4 are in heated races, and feel that the time would be spent better in their states campaigning, out of this 4 possibly 1 would be doing it because or who the nominee is.

Nice spin on it though.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 7:39:25 AM   
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Ahhh, the pretend strategy.....

That always works.

Ummmm,that`s why I posted a rightie site and a UK news outlet.

emm-kay?


but my take on both the articles was mostly speculation on the whys and whatfores. 

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 8:16:22 AM   
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The phrase "Like rats leaving a sinking ship" springs to mind.

I guess that's better than being , "Like rats boarding a sinking ship".




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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 8:17:58 AM   
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Did you happen to look into the reason why they aren't attending?

Craig, Stevens, Allard (aka Dullard by his own constituents) and Hagel are no surprise. 3 of which are retiring, and one may or may not be legally able to...

The other 4 are in heated races, and feel that the time would be spent better in their states campaigning, out of this 4 possibly 1 would be doing it because or who the nominee is.

Nice spin on it though.



Riiiight,the heated race excuse....Lol, good spin though,.............................................................not.

Going to a convention is a boost(or it was,pre-Bush) for a campaign.Being seen with the leaders,photo ops,speeches,etc.,that`s a plus.

The few days that a convention takes, can`t be the reason.That`s silly.

They aren`t going b/c the GOP is in the shit hole (oh, thank you George Bush)and they don`t want to be associated with them.

The reason they`re in heated races is because of GOP leadership.

There`s a Senator bailing on McCain that didn`t actually do anything,other than lend his name to the campaign as Chairman or something.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpolitics/2008/08/gordon_smith_wont_be_a_mccain.html


It`s b/c he didn`t want his name associated with McCain,that he did that.If McCain was a winner,folks would be climbing over one another to be part of the campaign and possibly part of his new administration.

This assclown Smith,ran adds linking himself to Barack Obama and to John Kerry(who he once called,"French".lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZScS9UpgcII

None of his adds,as far as I know, mention McCain.

He mentions Bush though.<he-he>

That`s telling.


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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 8:18:17 AM   
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Maybe its just a matter of integrity. A concept that may be unappreciated by a party who elects a plurality in Congress on a platform of ending the Iraq bloodbath and then voting to fund it 3 times, the last time extending it to June 2009.

No funds - no war. A no vote would have meant no funds. However, there is the rationalization apologists who give the excuse that a majority isn't a majority just like a blow-job isn't sex. Sorry about the President Clinton reference but it again explains the confusion you may be having about integrity. 

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 8:29:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ahh, the integrity excuse......good one.

There`ll be a veto proof majority,.....soon. If there`s a god.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 8:55:23 AM   
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Ahh, the integrity excuse......good one.

There`ll be a veto proof majority,.....soon. If there`s a god.


Excuse? Wish it were - reality for both parties and their members from my vantage point.

With nothing presented to veto - there is no relevance to the point. However there was an opportunity to have a clear demarcation between the parties. As it stands if this is a primary issue for anyone, remember in the last vote which insures another year of wasted US blood and resources, Senator Obama - YES, Senator McCain - NO.

Pragmatic reasons for each I'm sure - but the vote was what it was. Senator McCain still won't garner my support, but it should be concerning to any giving blind adulation to the marketing represented image of Senator Obama.

Rationalization to follow...

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:06:15 AM   
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Did you happen to look into the reason why they aren't attending?

Craig, Stevens, Allard (aka Dullard by his own constituents) and Hagel are no surprise. 3 of which are retiring, and one may or may not be legally able to...

The other 4 are in heated races, and feel that the time would be spent better in their states campaigning, out of this 4 possibly 1 would be doing it because or who the nominee is.

Nice spin on it though.



Riiiight,the heated race excuse....Lol, good spin though,.............................................................not.

Going to a convention is a boost(or it was,pre-Bush) for a campaign.Being seen with the leaders,photo ops,speeches,etc.,that`s a plus.

The few days that a convention takes, can`t be the reason.That`s silly.

They aren`t going b/c the GOP is in the shit hole (oh, thank you George Bush)and they don`t want to be associated with them.

The reason they`re in heated races is because of GOP leadership.

There`s a Senator bailing on McCain that didn`t actually do anything,other than lend his name to the campaign as Chairman or something.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpolitics/2008/08/gordon_smith_wont_be_a_mccain.html


It`s b/c he didn`t want his name associated with McCain,that he did that.If McCain was a winner,folks would be climbing over one another to be part of the campaign and possibly part of his new administration.

This assclown Smith,ran adds linking himself to Barack Obama and to John Kerry(who he once called,"French".lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZScS9UpgcII

None of his adds,as far as I know, mention McCain.

He mentions Bush though.<he-he>

That`s telling.



I haven't brought this up, but since you want to sling mud, why not... Care to comment on the comments by the DNC chair?  You know the constant "white party" comments?

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:26:16 AM   
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Just wonder`n what`s up and look`n for answers.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:31:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Someone needs to take Owner's pom poms away from him. So Owner, will any explanation satisfy you, or have you already decided only one explanation will do?

Personally the Republicans deserve a destruction of their party. They gained control of congress long ago, based upon certain promises that they did not keep and some they actually went the other way on.

If the country stays so polarized to the left and right, it will continue to tear itself apart. Only those on the extreme left and right can take a step towards the middle and compromise. How about we all agree on being Americans and at least try to work things out?

As far as these polticians not going, Thadius' explanation seems probable.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:32:12 AM   
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How many Dems aren't attending the convention?  See where I am going with that question?  The way you presented the topic is a show of where your feeling is on the topic.  What proof do you have that the reasons given by the 4 candidates in tightly fought races aren't factual?

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:40:55 AM   
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Relax,no one`s been kill or injured.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:47:04 AM   
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It`s called a descussion board.



Relax,no one`s been kill or injured.


I never said anybody was being killed or injured.  I was providing discussion, and pointing out where you were attempting to limit it to answers you agreed with.  That being said, this is from another of the links you provided.

quote:

Smith's spokeswoman, Lindsay Gilbride, said Smith is not taking a leadership role because he is focused on his "tough re-election campaign." She insisted that there is no intent to distance himself from McCain or the Republican presidential effort.
"He is very supportive of John McCain," she said, adding that Smith has never had a formal role with the McCain campaign.


Which again shows that the context you suggest, that they are "bailing" on him is false, or at the very least unprovable.

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 9:59:40 AM   
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Owner -
Maybe its just a matter of integrity. A concept that may be unappreciated by a party who elects a plurality in Congress on a platform of ending the Iraq bloodbath and then voting to fund it 3 times, the last time extending it to June 2009.

No funds - no war. A no vote would have meant no funds. However, there is the rationalization apologists who give the excuse that a majority isn't a majority just like a blow-job isn't sex. Sorry about the President Clinton reference but it again explains the confusion you may be having about integrity. 


Owner, Merc is right, the Democrats in 2006 ran on getting us out of Iraq!
They've voted THREE TIMES to keep funding it!
Are they in the pockets of the lobbyists on "K" street who represent "contractors" who want to see this thing go on and on because of the enourmous sums of Taxpayer dollars they're stealing?
What's up with Pelosi and Reid?
They promised to keep the house and senate working a "5 day week" and all they do is have recesses!
We should be out of Iraq RIGHT NOW!
That's what they promised us!
The Democrats have a lot of 'splainin to do!

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RE: 8 GOP Senators ditching National Republican Convent... - 8/17/2008 10:11:15 AM   
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Owner -
Maybe its just a matter of integrity. A concept that may be unappreciated by a party who elects a plurality in Congress on a platform of ending the Iraq bloodbath and then voting to fund it 3 times, the last time extending it to June 2009.

No funds - no war. A no vote would have meant no funds. However, there is the rationalization apologists who give the excuse that a majority isn't a majority just like a blow-job isn't sex. Sorry about the President Clinton reference but it again explains the confusion you may be having about integrity. 


Owner, Merc is right, the Democrats in 2006 ran on getting us out of Iraq!
They've voted THREE TIMES to keep funding it!
Are they in the pockets of the lobbyists on "K" street who represent "contractors" who want to see this thing go on and on because of the enourmous sums of Taxpayer dollars they're stealing?
What's up with Pelosi and Reid?
They promised to keep the house and senate working a "5 day week" and all they do is have recesses!
We should be out of Iraq RIGHT NOW!
That's what they promised us!
The Democrats have a lot of 'splainin to do!


I like the sound of that.....

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