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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/19/2008 10:09:23 PM   
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Okay, fess up, which one of you is this? 

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/19/2008 10:15:06 PM   
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A little "Cliff Notes" info for those that didn't read the article...

* There WAS a search warrant, they did not bust into the guy's place on probable cause.

* The info on the child came from the former sex slave, not the little girl's mother.  The mother may not have known of his plot.  At least not in the version I read.


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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/19/2008 10:20:35 PM   
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I would have to say neither. This guy is a nutcase. I mean everyone has, their kinks but this was really taken to far. It's a shame that someone would want to be involved with kids period. This guy is a child predator. 

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/19/2008 10:23:17 PM   
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That guy is completely stupid and sick 

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/19/2008 10:23:59 PM   
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* The info on the child came from the former sex slave, not the little girl's mother.  The mother may not have known of his plot.  At least not in the version I read.


Cali



Cali, I did read the article. It didn't say that the mother knew and it didn't say that she didn't know. I'm guessing she had a clue.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 12:33:57 AM   
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Except for the kid stuff. A island filled with sex slaves, is my dream, but it's also a political dream to, as I read an article about a couple small islands that have managed to be declared their own countries. So, political freedom, and gobs, of slaves. That's the life.

Now, I even got an angle on it, to monetize the whole thing. 5 million, and extensive pre-island, and island VD testing once you arrive(one of the slaves will have to be a doctor), will buy you temporary passage to my. Disease free, Near lawless land(except murder, forceful assault, etc), of willing and able sex slaves. It's not prostitution, the 5 million is for admittance the slaves will fuck you to please me, and more than likely would enjoy a little diversity. So, it's already self funded and sustainable.

Could you imagine, the back list, 100 female disease free, ready and willing sex slaves, for the paltry sum of 5 million for 3 month entry. And no more than 4 foreign admissions at anytime will be allowed. We don't want to thin things out to much. Oh, and to boot as an added bonus on your sinful get away, most drugs on my island nation would not be illegal. (I still wouldn't use them, but if that's your choice so be it). But you could if you like for the paltry sum of 5 million, go crazy for months. No cameras allowed, no internet enabled devices, no form of communication will be allowed either.

What happens on the island stays on the island.

It would be back logged to hell.

Depending on the size of the island it could be more than 4. Maybe. I haven't decided yet.

LOL, oh happy dreams.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 5:48:24 AM   
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I doubt they would have cared if he wasn't targeting a 4 year old. That's disgusting.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 6:10:36 AM   
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Just another pedophile preying on the ignorant and desperate. I see nothing hot about this at all since its the children he really wants, the women are just vessels.  Hopefully he will get to be someone's slave in prison.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 7:23:14 AM   
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Except for the kid stuff. A island filled with sex slaves, is my dream, but it's also a political dream to, as I read an article about a couple small islands that have managed to be declared their own countries. So, political freedom, and gobs, of slaves. That's the life.

Now, I even got an angle on it, to monetize the whole thing. 5 million, and extensive pre-island, and island VD testing once you arrive(one of the slaves will have to be a doctor), will buy you temporary passage to my. Disease free, Near lawless land(except murder, forceful assault, etc), of willing and able sex slaves. It's not prostitution, the 5 million is for admittance the slaves will fuck you to please me, and more than likely would enjoy a little diversity. So, it's already self funded and sustainable.

Could you imagine, the back list, 100 female disease free, ready and willing sex slaves, for the paltry sum of 5 million for 3 month entry. And no more than 4 foreign admissions at anytime will be allowed. We don't want to thin things out to much. Oh, and to boot as an added bonus on your sinful get away, most drugs on my island nation would not be illegal. (I still wouldn't use them, but if that's your choice so be it). But you could if you like for the paltry sum of 5 million, go crazy for months. No cameras allowed, no internet enabled devices, no form of communication will be allowed either.

What happens on the island stays on the island.

It would be back logged to hell.

Depending on the size of the island it could be more than 4. Maybe. I haven't decided yet.

LOL, oh happy dreams.



Points out to him that most testing for vd can show up 6 months later... so each memeber and woman to keep the entire island disease free would need a 6 month quarenteen with out sex at all, meaning no oral, no sex, no exhange of fluids with out someone else.
Whats the point of 100 df sex slaves if you arent going to regulate to make sure they are df.


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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 6:45:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

Except for the kid stuff. A island filled with sex slaves, is my dream, but it's also a political dream to, as I read an article about a couple small islands that have managed to be declared their own countries. So, political freedom, and gobs, of slaves. That's the life.

Now, I even got an angle on it, to monetize the whole thing. 5 million, and extensive pre-island, and island VD testing once you arrive(one of the slaves will have to be a doctor), will buy you temporary passage to my. Disease free, Near lawless land(except murder, forceful assault, etc), of willing and able sex slaves. It's not prostitution, the 5 million is for admittance the slaves will fuck you to please me, and more than likely would enjoy a little diversity. So, it's already self funded and sustainable.

Could you imagine, the back list, 100 female disease free, ready and willing sex slaves, for the paltry sum of 5 million for 3 month entry. And no more than 4 foreign admissions at anytime will be allowed. We don't want to thin things out to much. Oh, and to boot as an added bonus on your sinful get away, most drugs on my island nation would not be illegal. (I still wouldn't use them, but if that's your choice so be it). But you could if you like for the paltry sum of 5 million, go crazy for months. No cameras allowed, no internet enabled devices, no form of communication will be allowed either.

What happens on the island stays on the island.

It would be back logged to hell.

Depending on the size of the island it could be more than 4. Maybe. I haven't decided yet.

LOL, oh happy dreams.



Points out to him that most testing for vd can show up 6 months later... so each memeber and woman to keep the entire island disease free would need a 6 month quarenteen with out sex at all, meaning no oral, no sex, no exhange of fluids with out someone else.
Whats the point of 100 df sex slaves if you arent going to regulate to make sure they are df.



Thats why I like my research idea better. Oh someone came up on a screen with aids? Hold on, we have that cure shit around here somewhere, gimme a min. *rummage rummage* here you go!


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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 10:16:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

A little "Cliff Notes" info for those that didn't read the article...

* There WAS a search warrant, they did not bust into the guy's place on probable cause.

* The info on the child came from the former sex slave, not the little girl's mother.  The mother may not have known of his plot.  At least not in the version I read.


Cali



if you read the thing on thesmokinggun.com, it says the mother not only knew, but a lot of it was initiated by her. It's really sick stuff.

It didn't mention anything about webcams or anything, so I'm really really hoping that the mom was one of those fake online people and that there wasn't really a kid, but if the kid exists, she needs to be taken away from her mom asap.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/20/2008 11:43:32 PM   
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When I posted that, the original story had nothing about the mother.  There have been updates since and other accounts posted. 


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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 1:45:19 AM   
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I'm really really hoping that the mom was one of those fake online people and that there wasn't really a kid, but if the kid exists, she needs to be taken away from her mom asap.


It looks like she's real and the child exists:-

http://news.smh.com.au/world/us-man-targeted-nz-child-as-sex-slave-20080820-3ydm.html

Child, Youth and Family should be giving her a visit.


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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 3:26:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

Except for the kid stuff. A island filled with sex slaves, is my dream, but it's also a political dream to, as I read an article about a couple small islands that have managed to be declared their own countries. So, political freedom, and gobs, of slaves. That's the life.

Now, I even got an angle on it, to monetize the whole thing. 5 million, and extensive pre-island, and island VD testing once you arrive(one of the slaves will have to be a doctor), will buy you temporary passage to my. Disease free, Near lawless land(except murder, forceful assault, etc), of willing and able sex slaves. It's not prostitution, the 5 million is for admittance the slaves will fuck you to please me, and more than likely would enjoy a little diversity. So, it's already self funded and sustainable.

Could you imagine, the back list, 100 female disease free, ready and willing sex slaves, for the paltry sum of 5 million for 3 month entry. And no more than 4 foreign admissions at anytime will be allowed. We don't want to thin things out to much. Oh, and to boot as an added bonus on your sinful get away, most drugs on my island nation would not be illegal. (I still wouldn't use them, but if that's your choice so be it). But you could if you like for the paltry sum of 5 million, go crazy for months. No cameras allowed, no internet enabled devices, no form of communication will be allowed either.

What happens on the island stays on the island.

It would be back logged to hell.

Depending on the size of the island it could be more than 4. Maybe. I haven't decided yet.

LOL, oh happy dreams.



Points out to him that most testing for vd can show up 6 months later... so each memeber and woman to keep the entire island disease free would need a 6 month quarenteen with out sex at all, meaning no oral, no sex, no exhange of fluids with out someone else.
Whats the point of 100 df sex slaves if you arent going to regulate to make sure they are df.



I guess it's a six month quarantine then....  Hey, I stated one of the sex slaves has to be a doctor, she'll know all that, I'm no expert just a man with a dream....

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 7:27:51 AM   
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I'm really really hoping that the mom was one of those fake online people and that there wasn't really a kid, but if the kid exists, she needs to be taken away from her mom asap.


It looks like she's real and the child exists:-

http://news.smh.com.au/world/us-man-targeted-nz-child-as-sex-slave-20080820-3ydm.html

Child, Youth and Family should be giving her a visit.



Your right about that, IF the mother knew what he intended to do with this child, she should be burned alive in the public square and the child given to a decent family. No child is a piece of meat to be used like that. What the hell is wrong with people?

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 1:52:16 PM   
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I'm really really hoping that the mom was one of those fake online people and that there wasn't really a kid, but if the kid exists, she needs to be taken away from her mom asap.


It looks like she's real and the child exists:-

http://news.smh.com.au/world/us-man-targeted-nz-child-as-sex-slave-20080820-3ydm.html

Child, Youth and Family should be giving her a visit.




They mentioned the immigration/house selling issues in the thing I read too, but I'm hoping those are things the woman made up as an excuse for not being there yet. No one seems to have talked to her, and it's probably wishful thinking, but it's a lot easier to think about than the alternative.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 3:21:42 PM   
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Didn't probable cause to search someone's private property die when Bush took office?



Nope the right to privacy died with Bush. Restrictions on wiretaps, search and seizure and a whole lotta rights including the one to keep your damned shoes on at the arport and not catch athletes foot went bye bye. Now..are you ready for this? They have actually crafted the X-ray machines from Total Recall and are trying to put it in use at various airports. Even your damned insides won't be private any more!!!

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 3:25:50 PM   
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I suspect the child is safely in the hands of the State at this point and undergoing medical as well as psychological check ups. Mom on the other hand may (hopefully) be having troubles of her own unless she can prove herself to be mentally challenged and easily manipulated..wait..ummm...nope..don't think so.

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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/21/2008 3:29:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BbwCanaDomme

I'm really really hoping that the mom was one of those fake online people and that there wasn't really a kid, but if the kid exists, she needs to be taken away from her mom asap.


It looks like she's real and the child exists:-

http://news.smh.com.au/world/us-man-targeted-nz-child-as-sex-slave-20080820-3ydm.html

Child, Youth and Family should be giving her a visit.



Your right about that, IF the mother knew what he intended to do with this child, she should be burned alive in the public square and the child given to a decent family. No child is a piece of meat to be used like that. What the hell is wrong with people?

~Lashra



Sadly, our land of the Long White Cloud, clean, green and full of happy people isn't quite like the tourist brochure. We've had some sickening cases of abuse here in recent years. So bad in fact, I probably couldn't start a thread on the subjects. So I believe every word of it and think she was up for it. The best spin I could come up with is she was feeeding the guy a fantasy and using her sprog as bait, to somehow get money out of him. You know, can't sell her home due to the market collapse, and needs a loan etc., and then scarper with the money when the transfer comes through Western Union or whatever. That's most likely, but given some of the shocking things lately, I'd believe the worst too, until someone proved otherwise.

This link reveals that the NZ mother hasn't yet been identified and the police and CYF's are working to track her down, if she exists at all:-

http://3news.co.nz/News/InternationalNews/FBIseekfurtherdigitalevidenceafterNZsexslaveallegations/tabid/417/articleID/68099/cat/61/Default.aspx


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RE: FBI arrests man wanting to start society of sex slaves - 8/22/2008 10:33:10 AM   
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Our fathers might have been acquainted ,if you know what I mean,but this was in the 70's ,and for arguments sake lets say an angry ex and a confused child make an accusation .Do you think an innocent man might be receiving treatment best reserved for only the real assholes...


Mmm.  Back then it'd be much more likely than it is today, so I would admit to being able to stir up some benefit of the doubt without hard science backing it up.

Nowadays though... thankfully we have a much better chance of putting the dirtbags where they belong.  Bless technology.



the thing is once the accuser tells the story and involves the police, true or just vicious payback, or in the case of a good friend of mine whose ex wanted out of a marriage and talked her 14 yr old daughter into make false accusations, the person is socially labeled for life, innocent or otherwise, he lost his job, his wife got off fat and happy with just about everything he owned. The girl owned up later that it was a lie and her moms idea, did she get the justice she deserved.....nada. The woman couldnt just go up and say hey hubby this isnt working lets get a divorce, she resorted to using a  child to ruin the mans life. To me that in itself is not so much molestation but child abuse and that girl now many years later probably deals with the regrets.

Now Im with the rest of you if the ratass is guilty even by less than hard evidence, stringing em up by the balls in a prison and letting the others have at him is justice. Or if the person is a she, it definetly happens I have heard they get similiar harsh treatment by other inmates too.

In the case of child abuse, I believe in justified homicide and Im a very very passive person. But saving a child from forever having a imprint of such deeds far exceeds my concious than a big bully making used of a a innocent child.

Kill the Bastards for all I care, but only if guilt is there or literly caught in the act.

As for the Island, hell Im all for it, I hate living anywhere that you can see a neighbor but currently stuck smack in the middle of nyc, and not by choice...and now starting to fantasize about justifiable homicide for horn honkers, construction worker ect. that happens  to pass this apt, but dont lock me up quite yet, its all wishful thinking LOL

Damn where are my meds Im having way to many homicidal thoughts today, as the the jackhammer and saws are so loud the tv is practically on its highest setting. LOL

stepping down of my high soap box, cuz a tiny faerie can carry a loud voice but I wanta them ratasses to see Im small but dead serious. LOL

ps: while I do believe in this, actually doing it would probably never happen so take with a grain of salt and perhaps a margarita at least.

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