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ORIGINAL: misskittyslave

Most of U/us play or have safe words for during a scene, when the physical pain is going to cause damage when it gets too much and becomes dangerous.

i wonder how many live with an emotional safe word, when things are getting so far out of control for the submissive emotionally he/she can safe word and stop what is going on breath and talk about what is troubling them without fear of repercussion?

i wonder do M/s couples who normally have good communication skills and a decent relationship for the most part ever think that sometimes there might be something happening that a submissive is dealing with internally that is damaging them emotionally but they are with holding it in because they do not know that emotions are just as great of a risk to damaging them and causing harm as the physical aspects of a bdsm relationship?

for instance verbal humiliation what if it goes so far that a sub is starting to believe that what the dominant says is not just for in scene but how they really feel about them, or if a dominant withholds affection from a submissive because they are not complying to an order because they have a mental roadblock they are trying to work through or an insecurity.

emotinos are sometimes stronger and more painful than any physical aspect of bdsm i feel that sometimes a submissive might need to call their safe word to stop and have the ability to talk about it without fear of repercussion and i feel that no matter how bothersome it is to the dominant it is Their responsability to actually listen and help get to the root of the emotinoal difficulty enabling the submissive to continue serving Them in a healthy manner.

any thoughts on this?

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ORIGINAL: Rover

Steve, what does "love" have to do with a possession (please be advised that most of these folks have already disavowed any association of love in a Master/slave relationship)?

People enjoy breaking their possessions all the time. That's why things like demolition derby's are so popular. Get a few miles on the ole slave... errr... car, and you don't take quite the same care of it. In fact, you might look for opportunities to "abuse" it (can you really "abuse" something that has no rights or limits?).

We're talking about possessions without rights or limits. We're talking about objects that exist exclusively for our pleasure and at our whim. Why not do it just to see if it can be done? Sure, it's extreme. But that's the fun, don't you see... to see just HOW extreme it can be!!

What, you think a Sadistic Master to a lowly slave is going to give a rat's patoot what the consequences are? If this one breaks and is of no further use to me, there's always another one just around the corner seeking to become a REAL slave without rights or limits. They're a dime a dozen.

John

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Personally I think that emotional and pyschological safewords are more important than physical ones. I can see if someone is bleeding, I can't see if they are having a flashback.

Problem is that if something triggers an emotional limit, I'm not sure how well that trigger person would be at using a safeword. They could be emotionally too far out of it to do so.

Libby and I have observed that psychological crises come on more quickly than physical ones. It's almost as if the buildup is logarithmic rather than arithmetical. For that reason, we tell our play partners who might be effected by phychological issues to call safeword early and not try to "tough" it out