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Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/19/2008 6:24:36 PM   
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http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/the-caucus-factor.html

This takes a while to read and digest- it seems the Obama team bussed in bodies into caucus states...

putting aside the typical election hysteria- the statistical number per the states as described in the book-   it rather goes with his extreme marketing....

...hmmm.     what a mess.
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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 6:36:37 AM   
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Why is this news to you R?  Common knowledge.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 6:44:29 AM   
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Well, considering that many conservative groups told their people to caucus for Hillary, I'd say if this is true, it only evened the playing field.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:13:01 AM   
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Well, Smith117, if both reports are true it means that Obama brought in out of State people to caucus's which were supposed to be for State resident's only while conservative groups told their  State residents to caucus for Hillary.  That would indeed be FRAUD in Obama's case, but not so in the conservative groups case.

Ever since I became old enough to vote (1964) I have never seen a less qualified presidential candidate or more biased mainstream-media than Obama and today's mainsteam-media.  POTUS is NO PLACE for OJT! 

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:17:48 AM   
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Ever since I became old enough to vote (1964) I have never seen a less qualified presidential candidate...than Obama


Meh. He has as much experience as Lincoln had. Possibly more if you count his time as a community leader.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:19:21 AM   
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Community leader down at the "Church"?

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Meh. He has as much experience as Lincoln had. Possibly more if you count his time as a community leader.



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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:20:22 AM   
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Your opinion of fraud and mine are different then. I think conservatives deliberately telling their people to caucus for a candidate they have no intention of voting for us fraud, it's cowardly and it is a chickenshit move.
I have personally never seen a more honest, and open candidate for the presidency that has so moved me to actually vote, as is the case with future President Obama.

President is not "king." He's going to have support and advice from people who've been at that game for decades.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:22:26 AM   
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Realistically speaking, every president we've ever had has gone through "ojt" as you can't possibly have exeperience being president if you've never been president before.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:22:33 AM   
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Your opinion of fraud and mine are different then. I think conservatives deliberately telling their people to caucus for a candidate they have no intention of voting for us fraud, it's cowardly and it is a chickenshit move.



I've come to the same conclusion.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:34:25 AM   
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I dare say things are somewhat different today than they were during Lincoln's day. 

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:34:51 AM   
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Either way- I see election reform of 2000 is...  more of the same.

I am seeing mccain signs in peoples yards already. For all the tricks- we could  all move to Ohio, on paper- for election purposes...

Based on the OP,  he cant win in November.   tho- it did occur to me that the author is a mad midaged lady.....

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:39:21 AM   
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Is that the latest talking point, that the Golden One has the same experience level that Lincloln had?

Okay, assuming that's true - more Americans died in war under Lincoln's presidency than any other. 

Do we really want a repeat of that level of inexperience?

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Your opinion of fraud and mine are different then. I think conservatives deliberately telling their people to caucus for a candidate they have no intention of voting for us fraud, it's cowardly and it is a chickenshit move.
I have personally never seen a more honest, and open candidate for the presidency that has so moved me to actually vote, as is the case with future President Obama.

President is not "king." He's going to have support and advice from people who've been at that game for decades.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:42:51 AM   
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Of course not, we'd rather have a president who's "experience" has led to a drop from an 80% approval rating to less than 10%. One who's responsible for far more fuckups in 8 years than most other presidents. One who's trying to subvert the constitution every chance he gets, etc etc etc.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:46:43 AM   
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News Flash - Bush isn't running.



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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:50:03 AM   
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And even if Bush was running - he kicked Kerry's ass.

And Kerry wasn't a junior Senator, Kerry was experienced.

Kaptain Kerry (Have I mentioned I was in Vietnam? Kerry) had been to Vietnam.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:50:04 AM   
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Yes he is, his name's McCain: same as Bush, just diluted for today's W saturated masses.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:51:45 AM   
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No, but his buddy is. The same buddy who wants to attack more countries, wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years, wants to overturn lots of established rights, etc etc. It's simply the sequel to Bush.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:52:04 AM   
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That's a new spin on things.

Just a couple of years ago all Liberals ever seemed to talk about was how much they loved McCain, and how that mean 'ol George Bush had done that great war hero so wrong.

Now suddenly McCain is Bush!

How funny...

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Yes he is, his name's McCain: same as Bush, just diluted for today's W saturated masses.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:55:22 AM   
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Bush best Kerry because he still had "some" approval at the time, because people bought into the BS of no change in wartime, and because Kerry looks like Herman Munster.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 7:57:56 AM   
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Liberals said that before McCain took his sharp right turn. The moment he slid deep into nutty right-wing land, the left simultaneously said "WTF?"

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