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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:26:10 AM   
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Nicely put, mike.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:31:15 AM   
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A more experienced leader could have possibly averted the need for a civil war altogether, or found a way to win it convincingly much earlier. Point is, if anything, Lincoln's tenure speaks for the need to have experienced leaders, not against it.

Do you disagree with that?

Wholeheartedly! And I would invite you to visit the munument built to this inexperienced man someday...

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:33:01 AM   
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Why is it that  so many on your side of the aisle have to so quickly resort to petty personal attacks.



Coming from you, I find this a tad rich - you could at least own up to the fact that insulting those that disagree with you is irrelevant to which side of the political equation one is. As a matter of fact, I find the right-wing are particularly virulent and good at that.

Probably because I frequently find myself in their firing line - so much for old-fashioned values  .

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:36:26 AM   
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Why is it that  so many on your side of the aisle have to so quickly resort to petty personal attacks.

<snort>

Yeah right.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:37:00 AM   
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They're not personal attacks that are stinging you so badly of late, they're facts.

There is a difference.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:37:57 AM   
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Nope: what stings is a freshly spanked bum  .

PS: that's a fact.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:39:46 AM   
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That's a diffeent kind of sting...


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Nope: what stings is a freshly spanked bum  .

PS: that's a fact.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:42:21 AM   
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Sanity, the first resorted insult may not be your words (Obamabots) but they certainly did come from the right.

Therefore, your victim-esque cries about personal attacks holds no weight.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:43:02 AM   
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That being so, I'd have to say you must be an Obama man. Yip, yip, yip, yip yahoo. You go...

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Wholeheartedly! And I would invite you to visit the munument built to this inexperienced man someday...


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:46:09 AM   
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Obamabots isn't a personal attack, smith.

Obamabot might be.

The following definately is;

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Sanity, the first resorted insult may not be your words (Obamabots) but they certainly did come from the right.

Therefore, your victim-esque cries about personal attacks holds no weight.


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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:49:32 AM   
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Ummm, wrong again. That describes the type of cry you made over insults, not you specifically.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:51:01 AM   
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Nope: what stings is a freshly spanked bum  .

PS: that's a fact.
Dear Lady pray tell where can I get one of those?

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:53:26 AM   
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Argue with me...

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 9:54:27 AM   
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That being so, I'd have to say you must be an Obama man. Yip, yip, yip, yip yahoo. You go...

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Wholeheartedly! And I would invite you to visit the munument built to this inexperienced man someday...

First off for purposes of this upcoming election you would be correct,given the choices I will be voting for the Democratic nominee for President
But I am curious how did aknowledging that there is a monument built to celebrate the Prsidency of Lincoln tip my oh so secret plan to vote for Obama?

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 10:02:48 AM   
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Anyone who says he likes inexperienced leadership - is probably an Obama person. 

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 10:08:07 AM   
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Of course not, we'd rather have a president who's "experience" has led to a drop from an 80% approval rating to less than 10%. One who's responsible for far more fuckups in 8 years than most other presidents. One who's trying to subvert the constitution every chance he gets, etc etc etc.


I guess this is a good place to start.  First, you do realize that Bush's approval ratings are higher than the Dem run congress?  And the 10% number is something you grabbed out of mid air.  Currently Bush has ticked back up to 33%, which is low for a president.  Also Bush isn't running, as has been pointed out.

Now, on to the issue of fraud.  Are you suggesting that somebody voting or caucassing across party lines is fraud?  I think you should recheck the laws, it is perfectly legal to do so in those states.  It is however a violation of election laws and the rules of the party for out of state folks to vote or caucas in a different state.  I don't think I need to mention how it was caucasses that won the primaries for Obama, and not actual votes.  Hillary has stated enough about that already.

How about the pacifist claims... and threats to other nations.  Is my memory slipping or was it Obama that proposed invading Pakistan to go after Al Qaeda?  Isn't Obama talking about a plan for Afghanistan that involves, what was the word, oh yeah SURGE.  Obama is also talking in the exact same language about Russia as McCain, picture that.

Now to the honesty issues...  When was Obama born again, according to him it was before his parents met.  Obviously, his uncle was the only American at the liberation of Auchwitz. Though those are simple mistake, let's get to the more meaty ones.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/barack_obama_abortion_extremis.html
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/Obamacoveruponbornalive.htm

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WASHINGTON (August 18, 2008, Noon)  --  Senator Barack Obama's four-year effort to cover up his full role in killing legislation to protect born-alive survivors of abortions continues to unravel.



In the most recent developments, Senator Obama himself, in a video recorded interview Saturday night with David Brody of CBN News (subsequently broadcast on both CBN and CNN), said three times that National Right to Life was "lying" in asserting that he had voted against a state bill virtually identical to the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act.  He did not directly address newly uncovered documents that had been released by NRLC on August 11 -- documents that proved that he had done exactly that, contradicting four years of the Obama cover story.



In response, on Sunday, August 17th, we issued a challenge to Obama to either declare the newly discovered documents to be forgeries and call for an investigation of the forgery, or admit that he had misrepresented his record on the live-born infants legislation (not just once, but for four years), and apologize to those he's called liars.

We don't have an apology yet.  But now there is this, in a news story posted on the New York Sun website lon the evening of August 17th:  "Mr. Obama appeared to misstate his position in the CBN interview on Saturday . . . [Obama's] campaign yesterday acknowledged that he had voted against an identical bill in the state Senate . . ."
http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-facing-attacks-from-all-sides-over-abortion/84059/


So much for the honest and open candidate of hope...  There are numerous other examples, like the "Cheney corporate welfare bill" you know the one that he voted for but accused McCain of voting for.  McCain actually voted against the bill.

Ah and finally, I guess it is going to be some really bad news for some people when they realize that McCain is leading Obama in favorability ratings according to the new Gallup and LA Times/Bloomberg polls...

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 10:08:53 AM   
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Argue with me...
My pleasure Sanity,and every chance I get!!!!

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 10:11:10 AM   
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Anyone who says he likes inexperienced leadership - is probably an Obama person. 
On second thought Sanity I prefer to argue with those that actually bring something to the table,please show me where I said I liked inexperienced leadership...I will await this revelation!!!

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 10:16:42 AM   
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And anyone who claims that ANY president is experienced in being PRESIDENT prior to taking office for the first time is only fooling themselves.

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RE: Obama = FRAUD, statical caucus - 8/20/2008 10:18:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Obamabots isn't a personal attack, smith.

Obamabot might be.

The following definately is;

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

Sanity, the first resorted insult may not be your words (Obamabots) but they certainly did come from the right.

Therefore, your victim-esque cries about personal attacks holds no weight.





Listen to the parsing,here.

Ya got caught being a hypocrite.

Live with it.

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