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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:37:54 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		I would like to point out that there was no child support because of her age.

I cheerfully. well mostly ,signed up for a rather expensive private college. I also provided a some what reasonable amount of spending $$

I will be paying that loan off for a while. I am NOT complaining. I was and am happy to do so.

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:41:12 PM   
Emperor1956


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Status: offline 		Whispering quietly:   ladies, in Illinois the court retains "equitable jurisdiction" over all divorce decrees.  So while he THINKS he's paid the last payment NOW, if he wins the Lotto, or gets a raise, or even if he just does well enough in the future to peak her interest, she can reopen the decree and seek an "equitable" payment.  I've seen ex-spouses come back 15 years after the last "final" maintenance payment because the ex got some sort of "bump" -- in one case she waited 18 years until he was named CEO of a major energy company (she read it in the papers, she said) and came back and asked for another $5 million.  She got $2 MM for "going away" money.

[Still whispering] just kiss the nice Jefff and walk away quickly...he's gonna explode ....

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:42:24 PM   
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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:42:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, Emperor, it amazes me that she can come back for money that he didn't make during the marriage and after the marriage was dissolved.  Why would a court find this to be favorable?

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:46:27 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		I actualy AM a good daddy.....:)
and if she wants more?... let her hire a lawyer and bring it........

I am not gonna live my life worried. shrugs

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:49:18 PM   
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I like the pinky gold tahitian pearls, thanks. 

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:52:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also Jeff, you don't have to live with her anymore.  That's almost worth the price of admission, I'm guessing.

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:52:53 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		All of you lovely ladies, who I am SURE deserve such wonderful necklaces........

Might want to re-read the......." rather expensive private  school" part again..........

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:54:06 PM   
Jeffff


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ORIGINAL: Roselaure

Also Jeff, you don't have to live with her anymore.  That's almost worth the price of admission, I'm guessing.


I always thought of it as the exit price..........and worth every penny...:)

Jeff

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:54:14 PM   
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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:54:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		JEfff? I'd be happy with a new motorcycle.. it doesnt even have to be a HArley ;)

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 7:59:35 PM   
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KatyLied:  Wow, Emperor, it amazes me that she can come back for money that he didn't make during the marriage and after the marriage was dissolved.  Why would a court find this to be favorable?


The theory is that his earning potential (we'll keep it in the traditional gender role language, although I know of cases where hubbies have gotten significant maintenance from wives who made much more dough during the marriage) anyway, HIS earning potential was enhanced during the marriage, even though he didn't realize the big bucks until after the divorce.  This is more common where there was a long-standing "corporate" or "career" marriage (she put him thru med school, she worked the jr. exec. circuit with him to climb the ladder, etc.)   And its "equitable" treatment...who the hell can define equity?  I sure can't.

E

(NOTE:  I am not a divorce lawyer.  Yeccccch.  Something I could never do.)

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 8:17:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Geesh Emperor, give Jeff a break!!  Let him savor and celebrate for a while.

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 8:26:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		99% of the time the mother gets the child by default, the father usually has to fight for months, if not years, to get custody. Plus, most paying child support have to get a second job just to live. So, when they do get to see the kid, theyve either got to work or theyre too damn tired.

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 8:45:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: youngsubgeoff

99% of the time the mother gets the child by default, the father usually has to fight for months, if not years, to get custody. Plus, most paying child support have to get a second job just to live. So, when they do get to see the kid, theyve either got to work or theyre too damn tired.


It's becoming more and more common for couples to settle on shared custody or joint custody, where the kids live with both parents and divide their time between two homes.  In other cases, the non-custodial parent usually gets liberal visitation or an agreed upon schedule to see the kids.

As far as child support, it's not as if one parent pays it and the other doesn't.  Both the custodial parent and the non-custodial parent are held responsible for their share of the child support.  

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 9:03:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		On average, child support takes 40% of whatever you make. Lets say a person makes $350 a week. Decent money, not a millionare obviously, but can survive fairly comfortably. After child support, that drops to $210 a week. Nowhere near enough to survive on. So, you go and get a second job on the weekends. So now you have absolutely no free time to see your child.

Then, lets also look at the fact that the mother is going to get custody unless the father can prove that the child is not safe with her. This is damn near impossible to do. Also, many mothers collecting child support either dont need the money because they make more than the father, or she has a significant other to help with the bills. Think dad has a significant other? Nope, he's gotta work extra because he's paying child support, so he doesnt have time for a social life.

Think about it.  

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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 9:15:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe this is not the thread to have this discussion on, geoff. 


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RE: My last payment! - 8/24/2008 10:07:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wooooo Hooooo!!!!  Good for You Jeff!  Is it a BYOB party? 

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RE: My last payment! - 8/25/2008 6:28:32 AM   
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who the hell can define equity? I sure can't.


Yes, that is a tough one.

I did not get alimony, even though I worked and put my ex through school, I guess the point was that I always worked and have never had difficulty obtaining employment. 

I can't imagine anything much worse than spending your days listening to fighting couples going through a divorce who have forgotten that they actually loved each other at some point.


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