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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/24/2008 11:53:27 PM   
ElanSubdued


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It's just a question of time before someone gets their hands on me when they'll learn how passive, shy, and submissive i can be.  I like to envision my whole existence as a predestined purpose of becoming the private property of others for their satisfaction or even for their perverted mind.  I've always felt a strong need to please, to feel useful and appreciated, even at the price of people frequently taking advantage of me.  What better than progressively becoming a slave to achieve that?  I've come to realise that i don't even care if the people who will own me intend to expose me to intense degradation, abuse, or unrewarding treatments at times.  I only want to become the best slave i can because the only thing that matters to me is to please.  I love it when i get the chilling feeling that people are unable to get tired of me.  It's highly stimulating for me.


You may be surprised to know that many dominas don't want a "passive, shy submissive".  However, this isn't the part of your OP that alarms me.  Rather, it's this:  "I've always felt a strong need to please, to feel useful and appreciated, even at the price of people frequently taking advantage of me".  This isn't a good place to be because people *will* take advantage of you.  Being submissive doesn't mean having no self value, no self esteem, and making poor decisions.

A domina friend of mine and I were discussing the difference between healthy BDSM relationships and those who use BDSM as a shelter for their personality disorders to flourish.  Now I'm not saying you have a personality disorder, however, based on your OP, all you've told us is that you're willing to put your own safety at risk for your fetish (which is drinking piss).  This isn't a great way to impress the dominas here and it doesn't reflect well on you as a healthy, balanced, attractive, prospective relationship partner.  You may be a totally different person outside of the small glimpse you've given us.  We can't tell this though.  The glimpse you've shown sounds unhealthily addicted.

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For me, the act from a Mistress to relieve herself by pissing inside my mouth represents the unique opportunity for me to prove to my Mistress that i truly belong to her and that i deeply worship her.  For that reason i think it's of the uppermost importance that i perform to meet her expectations.  I want her to feel excited, thrilled that i'm willing to do this to the extent of letting her abusing me like that.  I rapidly found that i adore to be forced to do that.  It is at the same time extremely humiliating (i would never dare to tell this to my family, friends or acquaintances!) and it also provide me with very strong sensations.  I inevitably feel my heart pounding very hard and loudly, i breathe with some difficulty, i feel myself blushing in real shame to have to secretly confess i'm reduced to deprave myself to that extent.  But at the same time, the fantastic butterflies i feel in my stomach are the true proof that what i do is right!


There's nothing wrong with enjoying your fetishes, but wrapping them up in some kind of noble, "proving myself for my Mistress" credo won't fly on this forum.  You're not fooling anyone.  Drinking pee is *your* fetish.  It has nothing to do with anyone else.  You like it so you do it.

quote:

It's like doing anything somebody asks you, when you are in love with her.


I long ago stopped doing anything my lover asks without question.  If my lover asks me to do something seemingly dangerous, foolhardy, hurtful, stupid, etc., I'm likely to have a serious and simultaneously respectful conversation with her.

quote:

At times, i have noticed that some particular Mistresses i've met through adds obviously took a wicked kick out of destructing my dignity by abusing me to the extreme.  For example, some must have taken very large amounts of liquid before meeting me, because the rapidity with which they urinated inside my stomach with such unreasonable quantities of nectar, was surely intended to satisfy some viscious urge to destroy the male image.  One of the Mistresses seemed particularly happy to see me choke, when i couldn't swallow everything and see me feel sick from that.


If you're paying someone to deliver your fantasies, provided the person isn't a con artist, they generally will deliver.  Quid pro quo arrangements have little to do with actual, BDSM relationships.  From what you've described, I don't think the nectar dispenser necessarily has a desire to "destroy the male image" (though imagining this may well enhance your fantasy).

So, now to address the question in your OP.  Is it thrilling for a domina to watch a submissive drink the domina's own piss?  Some enjoy this and others do not.  That said, I feel reasonably comfortable saying that extremely few dominas make piss drinking the centre of their universe.  This is something you may wish to consider during your search for a partner.

Elan.

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/25/2008 9:04:57 AM   
Usako


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Status: offline 		I clicked the thread because the title was so effing funny! I personally find it mind baffling and insanely amusing when male subs/slaves go into the whole "worship EVERYTHING" mode. Calling piss golden nectar? A period a goddess flow? And lord knows what they call poop.

Would I be interested in peeing on a guy? Depends on the guy and depends on the mood. If I do it then it's because I want to, not to fullfil some fetish. I skimmed through the OP and it sounded a lot like a masturbation fantasy.

Maybe it's because I'm not the "treat me like a goddess" type. I flush my piss everyday and it never looks or smells like nectar. If watersports come into play it'd most likely be to humilate because I want to be amused.

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/25/2008 9:26:14 AM   
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I think the OP's post does a very good job of highlighting the dramatic disconnect between fantasy and reality. And maybe I am wrong, I can only speak for myself. But I think the way he eroticizes how his dream domina thinks and acts is so unrealistic that it's going to be impossible to find this person - she will be a pro who is acting out that role, or she will be a loving girlfriend or wife who is willing to make believe.  But he has so eroticized this person that he's created a caricature of a real woman.

In reality, a woman who enjoys pee-games is far more likely to interpret the acts in her own way.  I am not turned off, per se, by the idea of golden showers. I am, however, very turned off by the way he presents it.  The woman is almost secondary to the "nectar." It's all about him.  It's so highly eroticized and glorified that it's a distraction. 

If he wants success, he needs to think about this approach instead. "I'm also into golden showers.  If you are open to that, tell me what you enjoy about it - and maybe we can have some fun together." He needs to think about what the lady gets out of it. He's so into the volume issue that it clouds everything else about it, and about her. 

I think I have a serious disconnect with submissives who crave a type of 'extreme humiliation' that is so specific that they have it clearly defined as it is in this case.  Because it's obviously not "so humiliating" if the guy wants it so bad, so specifically, and has mapped out every fraction of it. It's what he wants, how he wants it. The fact that he may feel some humiliation is so far down on the list that it's not appealing to me, as a humiliation-fetishist, at all.  I would get TONS more pleasure and "rush" from taking a man in a public place and making him kneel down to pick something up, then ordering him to stay there a moment, and watch the conflict in his face and subtle humiliation as he finds himself behaving in a manner that is not normal for him. This is far different than making a man do something he not only fantasizes about daily, but pays women to enact.

You can't have it both ways.  You can have a lady "act it out," or you can submit to HER fantasies.  Try finding 'the' one woman who has your EXACT fantasy (this specific) and having a match in all other areas of your life...well, that's like buying a winning lottery ticket, I guess. I'm a natural-born femdom with a huge lust for humiliation, and when I see games this scripted and structured and act-centric I feel zero attraction on any level.

Akasha


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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/25/2008 11:33:02 AM   
undergroundsea


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Because it's obviously not "so humiliating" if the guy wants it so bad, so specifically, and has mapped out every fraction of it.


Let's explore this some more. Why do you think he wants it so bad?

There is plenty in the realm of humiliation play that lies outside the type of humiliation play you describe.

Cheers,

Sea 

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/25/2008 4:14:00 PM   
pixelslave


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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Because it's obviously not "so humiliating" if the guy wants it so bad, so specifically, and has mapped out every fraction of it.


Let's explore this some more. Why do you think he wants it so bad?

There is plenty in the realm of humiliation play that lies outside the type of humiliation play you describe.

Cheers,

Sea 


Sea,
I can't speak for Akasha, but people don't usually pay for things they don't want.  The OP spent far more time describing his desire for watersports than he did any feelings he may have had about the humiliation, degradation or abuse that was mentioned spattered throughout his post.  In fact, he only used the terms, without elaborating to any great extent on them, in a way that was what I'd call "waxing philosophical" in a manner that seemed intended only to justisfy his use of the terms instead of simply acknowledging his actual desires for the activities described which I see as being no different than anything else that many do in this lifestyle. 
 
I have no problem with what he desires to practice with a Domme, particularly having regularly engaged in them myself when involved in a relationship with one; things which I'll readily admit pushed my buttons.  Instead, I only have a problem with the incongruent manner in which he attempts to present his motivations to participate in the activities.  
 
I also have to say that I disliked his flagrant trolling; attempting to use his post as a personal ad in the forums.  That's something he readily admits to in a subsequent post and seems to feel he's entitled to do here.  I think most of us know that's a violation of the TOS (Terms of Service) of CM and this forum in particular. 
 
 - pixel
 


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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/25/2008 7:39:17 PM   
MsStarlett


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Calling piss golden nectar? A period a goddess flow? And lord knows what they call poop.


A sub saw my portable Queening throne on my profile.  (Yes I do use it for watersports)  He asked...
quote:

Does it mean that champayne and cavier are on the menu ?


That was a first for me.


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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/25/2008 8:23:36 PM   
undergroundsea


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ORIGINAL: pixelslave
people don't usually pay for things they don't want. 

 
Pixel,

I don't suggest that he does not want watersports. I question the suggestion that the activity is without value for humiliation play if he enjoys it.

The question I am asking is why does he enjoy it? I wager he enjoys it because the act represents humiliation and/or submission. I disagree with the logic that an act has no BDSM value if a submissive really wants it because then that logic makes consensual submission problematic.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 4:43:06 AM   
corysub


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Status: offline 		  A "Pro-Domme" would stick barbed wire up your ass if that was your kink...

The question could have been asked in five sentences.  My question would be if "writing in these forums" is also a kink?   Whatever.......

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 6:42:12 AM   
corysub


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Status: offline 		From my standpoint as a subbie, it's not really about the different actions of a Mistress, although most of it is enjoyable, to be sure..  It's really all about the total power she has over me.  A Mistress will do whatever she is pleased to do...but, hopefully, roughly within the limits agreed on between two consenting adults.  But, that's just
my opinion.
The wonderful thing about this  lifestyle is that it has one of the biggest umbrella's that covers tremendous differences, likes, dislikes, wants..needs,  Principle problem is finding the people that match up.  So what else is new in life?  :)

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 12:40:44 PM   
winoverme


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Elan.



Hi Usako,


Well, i think you've pointed something crucial in my conception of humiliation..I see that you don't enjoy particularly the Golden shower practice..I do..Perhaps that's one big difference between us. It amuses you to hear that for me, piss is "Golden nectar"..And yes, i surely have eroticised some women a lot..until the point reality ends up being a constructed fantasy by the mind..I agree. But to me, the act of drinking a woman's OK..piss represents something highly symbolic..Like the concrete domination of a woman over a man..She marks her territory with pleasure. But it also has to be a sincere fantasy of hers too. Why i don't like to pay a woman to feel relieved of some fantasies i have is because it's not sincere...You know, when we think of that, there are many financial Dommes out there, only there to make a living, earn money...In my opinion, they are not always sincere in their way they see relationships. I couldn't invest myself in a serious relationship with a Mistress who only has paying clients..It's so wrong. You know you represent only the money you bring..No money, no candy! So that's what i'm looking to find i hope: one Mistress who shares at least many of the interests i have. Now of course, what i would find very exciting would be to meet someone who's be excited by my particular conception of woman. Yes, i see women as Goddesses...So, does one at least wants to be treated that way? As i'm willing...I know i have a very fertile imagination, but it's also something very creative to fantasize on elaborate scenarios...Ans yes! The fantasies of a girlfriend/Mistress/Goddess are very important to me..But for me, it's important that she agrees with my conception of woman..That she likes the way i would treat her...Like she's totally perfect. I like to think i have to try to be perfect and faithful for her to meet her needs, while she could at the same time explore scenarios with other men. It would take lots of time to explain how i see things, but in essence, what i'm looking for is to become the perfect lover (faithful, understanding, etc) for a woman who naturally needs many men in her bed ans in her life...

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 12:55:00 PM   
winoverme


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Status: offline 		Well, that's the point: i enjoy it both as a humiliation and as submission that become highly erotic. OK..A total humiliation would suggest that the sub would be exposed to something he doesn't want which is only degrading..But you'll agree with me i hope that drinking a Mistress's piss does not represent something the majority of people would find exactly good for one's image...It stays a strong taboo...At least outside the BDSM community. NO. I don't enjoy it only because it represents one humiliating act...For me, it represents far more than that. It's highly symbolic...Imagine one particular sub/slave you like but don't love has a total crush on you..He would seduce you in part by trying to bring attention to him..He would let you feel extremely important in the admited goal to please you...To have you has his girlfriend and Mistress...Is there a possibility you would somehow feel flattered by his total submission toward you? Is there a chance you might fall for him, if you begin to understand he wants you badly?

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 1:17:14 PM   
winoverme


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Status: offline 		I agree with you on some levels AAkasha...


Yes, i admit i have many BDSM fantasies that have yet to be fulfilled..On this matter, perhaps i have difficulties to envision the things as they would happen, if i were to meet a real Mistress..But i haven't. For now, i've only paid "BDSM service Mistresses" to get closer to my inner compulsions...and entering the world of submission through a derivate way. I'm sure if i meet one real Mistress with whom i'd become involved with, many things would change...She'd have a personality of her own..But i understand your point. I'd better try to change my approach a little...Not only express fantasies which i understand now will be perceived as if they are the only thing that matters to me..In reality, i'm highly interested in discovering the other's fantasies too. To discover her slowly, little by little. There has to be constant communication to achieve that. But i also do believe in a relationship beginning with mutual expressed fantasies. On a profile, what better place to reveal personal things, feelings? If i only pretend to be cool and nice, i'm like all the others...Nothing special there..I believe in letting the creativity expressing itself totally...This is who i am...On a profile, i want people to understand clearly what i stand for, what they are to expect from me on a fantasy level...We can't speak of a real connection yet...We don't know each other..But colorful fantasies displayed on a profile are attracting to me...When i see, from what i read on a Mistress's profile how she sees the malesub, i might get pretty interested to meet her...And vice versa i guess.

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 5:29:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

Pixel,

I don't suggest that he does not want watersports. I question the suggestion that the activity is without value for humiliation play if he enjoys it.



Sea,
Then I worded things poorly if that's what my post suggested to you in general.  I suspect it was my reaction to the way the OP's post was composed and specific to him.  It was not intended to be a general statement. 
 
Why do I say this?  Because I know that for me, engaging in watersports tends to make me feel very submissive!  So obviously, there's much more involved for me than simply enjoying it.  There's a dynamic between myself and my dominant, along with other things within me that come into play.
 
 
quote:


The question I am asking is why does he enjoy it? I wager he enjoys it because the act represents humiliation and/or submission. I disagree with the logic that an act has no BDSM value if a submissive really wants it because then that logic makes consensual submission problematic.

Cheers,

Sea


I too disagree with the logic that an act has no BDSM value if a submissive really wants it.  It is after all about what works for each couple in their dynamic.  My problem was that the OP was inconsistent in his description of his motivations.  I respect someone who can be honest and say "I like it because it does A, B, C & D for me!", which could include all of the kinds of things the OP said.  More than anything, I was attempting to say "own it" and "be consistent".  I wan't trying to imply that he couldn't get those things from it too; particularly since I know many people do! 
 
At the same time, I'll say that if he does see the act as he says in parts of his post, his other feelings still seem incongruent to me.  If I were a "slutty" Domme, I'd likely have a problem with that! (tongue firmly planted in cheek) 
 
Can we agree that he appears to be conflicted?
 
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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 7:05:08 PM   
winoverme


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Status: offline 		As i read your posts, it seems you are an authority in psychology in these forums...You speak with authority...Nevermind..One true thing is that i am fascinated by the view of a woman relieving herself..To be under a woman can enable you to appreciate her beauty in all the exotic way that may mean..I confess i am fascinated by that..Like hypnotized...To me it's beautiful like nature itself. I don't consider myself to be that rational with these matters...There are images, emotions, feelings..Perhaps some understand..Finally, i have to excuse myself for the English i use..I normally speak French, it is my former language..It's possible i don't quite have the same ease to find the proper words at times when i write in English..But it's a good exercise though for me..

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 7:22:59 PM   
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Sounds like you are ready to move on to poop-eatin'.  Man uP!

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/26/2008 9:39:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave
quote:

I question the suggestion that the activity is without value for humiliation play if he enjoys it.

Then I worded things poorly if that's what my post suggested to you in general.

 
Pixel,

Thanks for clarifying. I did not take your post to mean that you think the activity is without BDSM value if he enjoys it. My objection was directed at Akasha's post.

When in my post to Akasha I asked why does she think he wants it so much, I was not suggesting that he does not want it, but instead asking what she thinks is the reason he wants it as much as he does. When you posted that people don't pay for things they don't want, it made me think that you read my question as if I asked what makes her think he has an interest in it.

Therefore, I wrote to clarify the intent of my question to her.

quote:

If I were a "slutty" Domme, I'd likely have a problem with that! (tongue firmly planted in cheek)

 
Yes, I caught that in the signature that used to be there and found it unimpressive. After learning that English is his second language, and seeing in his profile subtleties I sometimes hear in English of Europeans for whom English is a second language, I am going to give him the benefit of doubt that the use of slutty might have been a translation matter. The use of that word seems incongruent with what he otherwise states he seeks.

quote:

My problem was that the OP was inconsistent in his description of his motivations.
<snip>
Can we agree that he appears to be conflicted?

 
I skimmed through the OP and also his profile. I did not see so much a conflict in his post. This activity can appeal to people for different reasons including a gesture of submission by willingly enduring an otherwise humiliating activity, and a form of worship (that even a waste product is considered precious). It is reasonable that a given person might find each type of appeal in this activity.

In his profile, however, there is a greater indication of conflict between masochism and the rest of one's identity, which I expect exists in varying degrees amongst many subs, including myself.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/27/2008 7:00:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: winoverme
Finally, i have to excuse myself for the English i use..I normally speak French, it is my former language..It's possible i don't quite have the same ease to find the proper words at times when i write in English..But it's a good exercise though for me..


I think you do reasonably well with your English. I did not catch the subtleties until you mentioned that French is your primary language.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/27/2008 7:17:58 AM   
winoverme


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Status: offline 		Hi Undergroundsea,


Just to tell you i have changed my signature profile. I didn't use the word "slutty" this time. I didn't realize it was perceived negatively. I want to assure though, that for me, the word "slutty" doesn't represent anything pejorative..I even see it as a quality of a woman who assumes herself totally, freely enjoying to be surrounded by men, fuckfriends or male slaves around. Since my conception of the woman is that she's the stronger sex, it means that i consider it normal if because of the complexity of their mental and sexual orgasm privileges (contrary to men), a woman in my opinion has the legitimate right to like having many men in her life and in her bed..As for myself, i believe that a male sub like me should be respectful and faithful for a dominant woman. I respect the fact that i'm not enough man for her and that to fully accept the reality of one Mistress picking up slaves to her private pleasure is very OK for me..I don't have any prejudices towards these respectable and superior women...I worship them! I am willing to submit to one who is like that any time..I have to reveal though that i am obsessed with the idea of being controlled, enslaved, chastitized, rendered faithful to satisfy her even more..I love the idea of being owned by a woman, forced to stay faithful and cuckolded (slave/cuckold contract) while she'd humiliate me by having fun with other men or subs..

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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/27/2008 7:46:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: winoverme
I didn't use the word "slutty" this time. I didn't realize it was perceived negatively. I want to assure though, that for me, the word "slutty" doesn't represent anything pejorative..I even see it as a quality of a woman who assumes herself totally, freely enjoying to be surrounded by men, fuckfriends or male slaves around.


Thanks for clarifying. After reading your profile and your post about your primary language I sensed you meant something more along the lines of a woman who is sexually adventurous and uninhibited, and the term slutty was a result of a translation matter.

I wish you well in finding what you seek.

Cheers,

Sea


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RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking... - 8/27/2008 9:12:21 AM   
winoverme


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I have a question though: What does mean "OP"? And how do you always pick a sentence and show it in a window im your post? I don't know how to do that..


Thank you, frank

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