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undergroundsea -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (8/31/2008 2:24:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave
I can fully relate to what you refer to as D/s humilation; although I'm very prone to blushing, turning a bright red during that kind of play and do get a rush from it. [:)]
 
I guess I don't see this kind of humiliation to be in alignment with the worship approach unless it's in some kind of appropriate venue in front of others, while what we're talking about isn't. Perhaps that's imposing my own beliefs and value system about worship on others; my acceptance of my submission if you will along with being in a place where I can be proud of it without feeling humilated or shamed.

 
I think one can engage in humiliation play without feeling even the blushing of which you speak. In such a scenario, the humiliating activity is done willingly as a gesture of dominance and submission and, instead of creating emotional discomfort, simply creates respective mindspaces. The humiliation act becomes a D/s ritual instead of something that creates any unease.

With this context, I think doing an otherwise humiliating act willingly as an expression of submission or regard can be harmonious with a worshipful dynamic.

Aside from difference in health risk and degree of taboo nature, how do you compare watersports and worshipping sweaty feet socks just out of gym shoes?

Cheers,

Sea




undergroundsea -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (8/31/2008 2:42:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Perhaps one afternoon, watersports might be a loving, bonding experience, and then the next time, someone could be feeling a bit differently, grab by the hair and.......

Well, you get the idea.



Mmmmm! [sm=marionette.gif]
 
Yes, I do see the difference you speak of Lady Pact.  However, the analogy you make is one more of moods and still doesn't express the basic difference in how one views the other individual as well as the basic act; instead only the manner in which it is performed.  Perhaps you could provide some insight in a more direct manner?  [&:]


I agree with Lady Pact that the same act can take on different meanings depending on how it is framed.

I see what you are asking--you are asking about not how it is framed at the moment but how the relationship is framed. Just as a sub can see both worship value and humiliation value in an act, so can a domme. So I think a given domme might view the act as if she is being worshipped, or as if she is exercising dominance. I don't think either party has to define the relationship to have only one flavor to the exclusion of the other flavor; the dynamic might allow moments of intimate acts, moments of sadomasochistic acts that are more aggressive, and moments that are a bit of each. And then the two view each other however they must to have a dynamic that can sustain both flavors.

I can imagine a relationship where a domme might lean on her sub for strength or emotional support, or defer to him for some matter. Just as this duality can exist in the dynamic, I think so can the one we have been discussing.

Cheers,

Sea




undergroundsea -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (8/31/2008 2:44:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie
Nope.  The smell of urine is enough to set off a severely incapacitating gag-reflex in me


For the right sub, that could be two fetishes in one ;-)

Cheers,

Sea




pixelslave -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/1/2008 3:43:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

quote:

ORIGINAL: pixelslave
I can fully relate to what you refer to as D/s humilation; although I'm very prone to blushing, turning a bright red during that kind of play and do get a rush from it. [:)]
 
I guess I don't see this kind of humiliation to be in alignment with the worship approach unless it's in some kind of appropriate venue in front of others, while what we're talking about isn't. Perhaps that's imposing my own beliefs and value system about worship on others; my acceptance of my submission if you will along with being in a place where I can be proud of it without feeling humilated or shamed.

 
I think one can engage in humiliation play without feeling even the blushing of which you speak. In such a scenario, the humiliating activity is done willingly as a gesture of dominance and submission and, instead of creating emotional discomfort, simply creates respective mindspaces. The humiliation act becomes a D/s ritual instead of something that creates any unease.

With this context, I think doing an otherwise humiliating act willingly as an expression of submission or regard can be harmonious with a worshipful dynamic.



Yes, I'd agree with you Sea.  I might use the phrase "being humbled" or one of "feeling humbled" to describe what you speak of, but that may be more a case of semantics than anything else.  I think the difference in what we're speaking of is as you say, that it's done willingly (if not eagerly) as an expression of submission and still seen as part of one's worship of their Mistress.  In this scenario, I'd hope the submissive would feel good about themselves from engaging in the activity, especially if it's one that trip's their triggers.  But then, in general, I'd hope any sub would feel good about their submission to their dominant, regardless of the activity they're engaging in. [sm=lol.gif]
 

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Aside from difference in health risk and degree of taboo nature, how do you compare watersports and worshipping sweaty feet socks just out of gym shoes?

Cheers,

Sea


I don't Sea.  I just see, smell & taste the Woman, comfortable with the self awareness I have that everything about Her is pleasurable for me. [;)]  I accept Her as She is, secure in the knowledge that what I'm going to encounter as I explore Her is completely natural and thus, to my way of thinking, is inherently good.  You might say that I just relax and enjoy the ride; appreciating whatever surprises I'm presented with. [8D]
 
 - pixel
 
Lady Pact's bleaux
 




pixelslave -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/1/2008 4:31:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

I agree with Lady Pact that the same act can take on different meanings depending on how it is framed.



You would have to agree with Her wouldn't you Sea? [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m26.gif[/image]   (She does rock! [sm=dancer.gif])
 
 
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I see what you are asking--you are asking about not how it is framed at the moment but how the relationship is framed. Just as a sub can see both worship value and humiliation value in an act, so can a domme. So I think a given domme might view the act as if she is being worshipped, or as if she is exercising dominance. I don't think either party has to define the relationship to have only one flavor to the exclusion of the other flavor; the dynamic might allow moments of intimate acts, moments of sadomasochistic acts that are more aggressive, and moments that are a bit of each. And then the two view each other however they must to have a dynamic that can sustain both flavors.

I can imagine a relationship where a domme might lean on her sub for strength or emotional support, or defer to him for some matter. Just as this duality can exist in the dynamic, I think so can the one we have been discussing.

Cheers,

Sea


I certainly see the duality in the dynamic Sea and once somewhat defined, which I realize will likely evolve over time.  I have no difficulty with any dualities such as described and would in fact expect them to exist.  I'd also see a need for them, even if only to maintain some degree of variety so the relationship wouldn't become stale. [&:]
 
Perhaps because I don't don't engage in casual play, or play with those with which I don't have a bond or dynamic at least forming, I don't see things happening where play of this kind comes before a dynamic is first established.  Because of that, I may not be able to see things from the same perspective where a dynamic hasn't first been established.  I'll readily admit that may be creating a barrier for me in viewing it differently than I presently do! [8|]
 
Being that Dommes are human, well, at least most anyway, (no disrepect intended, but I know there are some Dommes that refer to themselves as deities, in that they do call themselves "Godesses"), I too see relationships that exist where Dommes lean on their subs for strength or emotional support; also deferring to their subs for various matters in which the sub has more knowledge or expertise.  I see that as part of my role as Mistress' submissive.  I view a Domme as something akin to a manger of the D/s relationship.  A wise manager in any business would certainly want to utilize all of the resources available to Her, so why wouldn't a smart Domme do the same?  Similarly, I expect to be Her friend and confidante as well; providing the same emotional support that I know She'd want to provide me. [sm=lol.gif]
 
 - pixel
 
Lady Pact's bleaux
 




kajirusilk -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/6/2008 12:27:53 AM)

i was Owned twice and both my former Owners required it,   Both believed as my Owner, it was not only Their perogative but Their right.

respectfully,

silk




Sunnyfey -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/6/2008 3:24:56 AM)

sorry watersports and scat are quick way to send me running away clutching my toy bag which is quite a feet in six inch heels....




malloves69 -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/6/2008 4:49:19 AM)

all i can say is my mistress loves giving me her golden shower while she stands over me in the shower and i love accepting it as it cums out of her awesome body [:)] can be pretty erotic and itimate thing to share together and yes i try and swallow as much as i can [:)] after shes done i lick her clean [:)] then its shower time to cleanup before our hugs and goodbyes when shes getting ready to walk out the door [:)] she is a awesome woman indeed [:)] mal




meandmymistress -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/7/2008 1:29:03 PM)

I too have a shy bladder, lol but my slave is hinting at wanting to drink my "golden nectar" by emailing me pics...how do I get over this shyness...I'd love to experience everything with him...over the 3 years we've been at this, we've grown very close and have fallen in love so I want to try anything...

Any ideas?




MsLydiaMischief -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/7/2008 6:00:50 PM)

Golden nectar? Do you mean agave nectar or honey or some other type of sweetener? And yes, I love sploshing.

*rolls eyes*




pixelslave -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/7/2008 7:58:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: meandmymistress

I too have a shy bladder, lol but my slave is hinting at wanting to drink my "golden nectar" by emailing me pics...how do I get over this shyness...I'd love to experience everything with him...over the 3 years we've been at this, we've grown very close and have fallen in love so I want to try anything...

Any ideas?


You might try running cold water slowly in the sink.  The sound of running water is known to have a psychological effect that tends to make women in particular need to void their bladders.  Drinking lots of water beforehand to completely fill the bladder is of course always a good thing to do to help add to the urgency you might need to feel in order to acheive success! [;)]
 
 - pixel
 
 Lady Pact's bleaux
 




knees2you -> RE: Do Dommes feel thrilled to watch their sub drinking their Golden nectar? (9/10/2008 12:30:53 AM)

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I dont produce nectar. I pee.
The idea of peeing on someone, or even worse in someone's mouth is a complete turnoff for me. It might work for otehrs, but I find it appalling. It is jsut about a hard limit, with the very possible exception being a one time fantasy fulfillment for the boys if either of them had that bizarre desire.

DV


Ahhh, But do You drink blood?[:D]
 
Always, knees2you[sm=cactus.gif]




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