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Alumbrado -> RE: Is religion important in politics ? (8/28/2008 9:41:15 AM)
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ORIGINAL: RealityLicks
It's not about the right to worship but the right to worship privately, if at all. Our Foreign Secretary is an atheist. He wouldn't be free to do the same job in your country yet you invoke the hoary myth of the pilgrim fathers and their search for religious freedom.
I can't speak for every vagary of law in each European country but EU law is based on democratic principles which allow real freedom of religion - ie, to have none if that is your belief. If any EU country violates that right, an EU citizen has recourse in law.
I don't know of any "religious army" except for the Swiss Guard in the Vatican, a ceremonial escort. As for powers to convict or tax; see my comments regarding the European Convention on Human Rights above. Clearly, you last visited Europe during the plague of 1347 or you'd know that things have moved on a little.
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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
The observation that US politicians wanting to get a majority of the votes try to appear like as many members of the majority as they can, is hardly denying others their right to worship differently.
Kennedy debunked the myth that one had to belong to a specific WASP church to win office, other politicans have debunked the notion that one 'must' be a Chritian at all.
When was the last Catholic head of state in England, Denmark, etc, or the last Protestant ruler in Italy?
The notion that Europe by contrast has no church state link, sounds fine and grand and all.... Except for that pesky matter of the facts that no religion in the US has the legislated power to tax, or convict, or raise an army, or legally require a politician to belong to a specific denomination etc, as they do in so many other places.
So where is the evidence that if the US somehow or another implemented this change that no one is willing to define, the rest of the world would applaud?
You are losing touch with reality... I'm not the one who posted about the puritans, or pilgrims. I did mention those who came to America to get away from your European monarch and church obsessed culture...some of us are still very successful at it, in spite of the best efforts of others.
This is just a continuation of your desperate tap dance to keep any of those nasty old facts from sticking to you. You made a sweeping generalization that is being torn apart, and all you have in defense is irrational debate tricks.
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