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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:05:17 PM   
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Who are we kidding?
 
Look at Geraldine Ferraro.
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There's talk about Ferraro actually endorsing McCain.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:07:15 PM   
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Being Governor isn't so hard.

In NY, there's a BLIND GUY doing the job.


Are blind people less competent than others?

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:16:16 PM   
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Who are we kidding?
 
Look at Geraldine Ferraro.
{pardon the miss spelling if any}
 


There's talk about Ferraro actually endorsing McCain.
And pray tell ,how would that matter?

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:19:24 PM   
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Interesting that so many of our resident political experts don't know the fundamentals... like the fact that being head of the executive branch of state or federal government is vastly different than being 'an executive' working an administrative desk job.


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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:28:02 PM   
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And pray tell ,how would that matter?


It may matter quite a bit.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:32:15 PM   
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And pray tell ,how would that matter?


It may matter quite a bit.
Really,I was not aware Geraldine Ferraro carried such political gravitas...oh well ,live and learn.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:37:46 PM   
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What would she do against abortion rights, if at all? She's "pro-life". That's what concerns me the most. Any ideas?


I don't think abortion has any business being an issue at that level of government, so no, regardless of my own personal feelings on the issue I really think it is a none issue.

Can she lead a country? Does she have a clue of foreign policy? Can she stand up to the attacks she would get, stand nose to nose with the middle eastern leaders that feel women are a second class citizen(at best) and do what is best for the whole country?

Those are the things I want to know about her. Those are the types of things that I seriously doubted in Obama. I've educated myself enough to have more confidence in his abilities.

It's still a moot point because I get spewy at the very idea of McCain being president.



Did/Could Bush?

Get the fuck over it.

Any fucking puppet can...and has run the country.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:38:52 PM   
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Is anyone troubled that the Republican nominee chose as his running-mate someone who is under investigation for abuse of power charges.Seems her ex brother-in-law was fired as a State Trooper shortly after a nasty divorce from the Gov's sister.
Is this the sort of move to induce anyone to believe that a McCain administration would conduct itself any different than the Bush administration.Seems abuse of power is not a real issue to this Candidate,after a vetting they go right ahead and put this woman out there as the person to be "a heart beat" away from the Oval Office..
How can they be this arrogant


That is very troubling, and should certainly not be left uninvestigated... the sooner all the facts are out in the public eye the better.

How long did the poor man have to go without work when he was fired, and what is he doing for a living now?

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:46:28 PM   
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Is anyone troubled that the Republican nominee chose as his running-mate someone who is under investigation for abuse of power charges.Seems her ex brother-in-law was fired as a State Trooper shortly after a nasty divorce from the Gov's sister.
Is this the sort of move to induce anyone to believe that a McCain administration would conduct itself any different than the Bush administration.Seems abuse of power is not a real issue to this Candidate,after a vetting they go right ahead and put this woman out there as the person to be "a heart beat" away from the Oval Office..
How can they be this arrogant


That is very troubling, and should certainly not be left uninvestigated... the sooner all the facts are out in the public eye the better.

How long did the poor man have to go without work when he was fired, and what is he doing for a living now?


From what I understand the only thing even remotely linking her to the accusation is a single phone call made from her office, for which she fired the person that made the phone call, as it was not authorized by her.

She has fully embraced the investigation and claims to have nothing to hide. 

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 6:53:52 PM   
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Well, I just hate to think of that poor man not being able to find work after losing his career that way....

I hope slvemike is able to give us more details soon.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:14:13 PM   
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This "executive experience" must be the new Fox News talking point buzzword since I've seen it on so many posts today.  Wouldn't a Senator, who represents his state on a national level have at least as much executive experience as a Governor? 


Senators and Congressmen are part of the legislative branch of government. 

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:21:50 PM   
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Well, I just hate to think of that poor man not being able to find work after losing his career that way....

I hope slvemike is able to give us more details soon.
I will of course get right back to you Al,as soon as my intensive invesigation is complete,but off the top of my head I will suggest she would not be the first person ever accused of some sort of shady dealings to proclaim "she welcomes the investigation"...your sarcasm ,though not surprising coming from you,has been duly noted...I hope you have noted mine..

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:24:55 PM   
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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:27:41 PM   
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Is anyone troubled that the Republican nominee chose as his running-mate someone who is under investigation for abuse of power charges.Seems her ex brother-in-law was fired as a State Trooper shortly after a nasty divorce from the Gov's sister.
Is this the sort of move to induce anyone to believe that a McCain administration would conduct itself any different than the Bush administration.Seems abuse of power is not a real issue to this Candidate,after a vetting they go right ahead and put this woman out there as the person to be "a heart beat" away from the Oval Office..
How can they be this arrogant


That is very troubling, and should certainly not be left uninvestigated... the sooner all the facts are out in the public eye the better.

How long did the poor man have to go without work when he was fired, and what is he doing for a living now?


From what I understand the only thing even remotely linking her to the accusation is a single phone call made from her office, for which she fired the person that made the phone call, as it was not authorized by her.

She has fully embraced the investigation and claims to have nothing to hide. 


She's already backtracking from this. There were actually 24 calls made some she made herself, some from her husband. This is troubling. Often, it seems, narcissists make progressive strides in politics, but don't feel beholden to such things as "the truth."

I wonder how much McCain understood about this before he chose her. Do you believe it was responsible and in good faith to pick a VP after 1 or 2 meetings?


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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:31:32 PM   
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Mike,
I just wanted to get back to you about a reference I made earlier, I was referring to the Biden-Rezko connection that has surfaced as well. 

Now back to the topic you brought up...

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Palin has denied pressuring Monegan in the case of the trooper. At the time of Monegan's dismissal, she said she wanted the department to move in a new direction.

Monegan said the pressure to fire Wooten came from three members of Palin's administration and from her husband, Todd Palin.
The governor revealed earlier this month that her director of boards and commissions, Frank Bailey, had made a phone call to a state trooper lieutenant in February complaining that Wooten still had his job. Palin said the call didn't amount to pressure for Wooten's dismissal.

``She's conceded that she had an aide that went off the reservation,'' Palin spokesman Bill McAllister told reporters today. ``But she took no action to pressure Monegan.''
French said Wooten was ``no Sir Galahad'' and had at various times been accused of drinking on the job, shooting a moose out of season and using a Taser on a 10-year-old nephew. He said Monegan's position was that the trooper had already been disciplined for those offenses.

The legislative probe of the Monegan case isn't connected to a separate, four-year federal investigation of alleged political corruption in Alaska. The federal probe has resulted in convictions of or guilty pleas from three state legislators, the chief of staff of Palin's predecessor and two executives of an oil-services company, as well as the indictment of Senator Ted Stevens.


French is the liason of the investigator commissioned by the legislature.  The truth will come out in the wash, and honestly on this one I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

The naive,
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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:32:42 PM   
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She's already backtracking from this. There were actually 24 calls made some she made herself, some from her husband. This is troubling. Often, it seems, narcissists make progressive strides in politics, but don't feel beholden to such things as "the truth."

I wonder how much McCain understood about this before he chose her. Do you believe it was responsible and in good faith to pick a VP after 1 or 2 meetings?



Have any citations of her backtracking?

Edited to add: I am referring to her changing her story, as I have seen her statements a couple of weeks ago. The only thing linking her to pressuring the man is a single phone call from an aide.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:33:33 PM   
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Oh shit Al you got me,the trooper didn't lose his job,he was though suspended for 5 days for an incident with a stun-gun and his 10 y/o son.Now that is troubling and maybe he should lose his job.But how does that mitigate the charge of mis-use of authority in that she didn't suceed in costing this man his job.Not sure the distinction matters to the Dept.of Public Safety Commisioner who did lose his job...or the staffer who was possibly "scapegoated" over the whole affair,and lost their job too...

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:39:12 PM   
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But Thadius none of this addresses the issue of arrogance on the part of the search committee,what does this say about McCain's judgement.Does McCain really believe he can court the disaffected Hillary backers by selecting a social conservative simply because she wears a skirt.This is insulting to the voters on numerous levels and will IMO blow up in Mccain's face.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:39:19 PM   
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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 7:39:58 PM   
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...i didn't think Michael Palin was American born......mind you, an ex-python for president....hmm.....


that would work for me ;)


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