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Femdom porn for women... - 9/1/2008 10:07:56 AM

sodsta

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I've seen a lot of discussion about BDSM porn on these boards, and Femdom porn in particularly. The general consensus from most Dommes seems to be that most Femdom porn is made by men, for men. And I think I generally tend to agree. The woman is the one fetishised in most porn, the one the camera focuses on, the one wearing the slinky outfit and doing most of the work.

I was having a discussion with a female friend of mine who said she'd like to see more Femdom porn aimed at women, so I asked what that would entail. Now, while she had a few ideas (more close-up shots of the sub, the women wearing more comfortable clothes, the sub having to do more than just take a beating, etc...) I don't think she was really sure how to express them all.

So I wanted to ask you guys what you would like to see more of in Femdom porn. What sort of things do you think are lacking in the current "made for men" Femdom movies that are out there? Like... what sort of clothes would you rather people were wearing? Would you prefer the Domme to be the main focus of the movie, or the sub? What sort of scenarios would you find most enjoyable? Anything you would find personally satisfying, really.

Thanks for any input. :)

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/1/2008 11:58:12 AM

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I think many femdoms enjoy m/m bondage porn for the focus on the sub, the actors being more charismatic and interesting/sexy, and a few other subtle things you don't see in F/m het porn. I think cues can be taken from sites like:

http://tieguyuk.com/

http://www.extremeboyz.com

and http://www.bondagejeopardy.com

Sensual, attractive, reactive bottoms are key. From there it can really branch out into a wide variety of avenues, becauase dominant women have differing tastes when it comes to extremes, etc.

I think the movie "Punish Me" does a great job of showing a very sensual, sexy sub. Worth renting. Perhaps too subtle for "femdom porn" - but I think it is moving in the right direction. (trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTQnwZx9rHw)

Unfortunately the market size is too small to support the creation of anything with decent quality. A pet project of mine is to piggyback on the resources of an existing m/m bondage production and maybe peel off a small element of it with a femdom slant. I will probably start with the photo side rather than video, and I'm still debating the issue of cost - surely it will lose money. When I am at the height of a "femdom lust moment" the idea of dropping 10 - 20k on a pet project seems like a fine idea. Then I have a good lustful femdom session of my own and the hunger goes away and I think of much better ways to spend that kind of money - like a trip to Europe :).

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/4/2008 11:19:15 PM

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Personally, i think I would like to see more fo what your talking about. I like porn that is real or looks real. I would like to see the Fem Domme wearing regular clothes sometimes, underwear, or a sexy outfit of sorts. A wide variety. And it could just be in a house instead of a dungeon. Could show to couples or one, show playtime and daily things maybe.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 4:48:39 AM

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Odd... I was just having this discussion with my boy this morning!

I was visiting the two sites advertised on CM. Hogtied and MenInPain. Just glance around at the two. They are VASTLY different.

Disclaimer: I am not trashing these two sites. They are wonderful for what they are. I'm just complaining that neither of them actually appeals to me personally.

Hogtied has ladies tied in very interesting ways and in some very uncomfortable situations to say the least. The male is rarely shown at all and most of the time, he is in non-descript baggy black clothing. There is very little sexual contact shown aside from vibrator type devices in use. I would greatly enjoy seeing a similar site with the roles reversed.

Now, flip over to MenInPain. The females are either in sexy outfits or nude. They are just as prominant in the photos, or even more so than the males. There is a LOT of sexual contact. Either of oral administrations or close ups of strap on useage. VERY little of men in actual bondage or uncomfortable situations. There are a few shots of some seriously scary CBT and an occtional limp wristed tapping with floggers or crops. For every one shot of a man who is actually IN PAIN as suggested by the site name... there are a dozen of him having some form of sex with the super hot 'FemDom'.

Why? I do not enjoy seeing women stretched up and tortured. But I have to look at those sites to get 'ideas' of fun new things to do with my boys. Do the people who run these sites think that no woman is STRONG enough to suspend a male? Do they think that men are not flexible to be twisted into pretzels? Other devices could be used. Men can go in almost every possition or device that a woman can... but you rarely see it.

Or, as mentioned by the OP, does it always come down to the fact that MEN pay for porn? Women generally do not. Maybe we don't pay for it because there is so little of it that appeals to females.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 5:38:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I think the movie "Punish Me" does a great job of showing a very sensual, sexy sub. Worth renting. Perhaps too subtle for "femdom porn" - but I think it is moving in the right direction. (trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTQnwZx9rHw

My favorite Femdom movie is English cult film "Preaching to the Perverted" (released as "SpankWorld in non-English speaking countries).

Tanya Cheex - played by gorgeous Guinevere Turner - is the yummiest Dominatrix on film IMO.

The film was banned altogether in Ireland and received an X rating in Australia due to the so-called violent acts of BDSM depicted. Is it pornographic? I don't think so. Classifying this fantastic film as porn was a travesty.

Here's the trailer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZBskyrc7zs

Here are the stills : http://www.preachingtotheperv.com/media/img/photogallery/photo1.html

You can buy the film online. I also have the movie soundtrack on CD because it is fabulous dungeon music

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 7:27:40 AM

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I agree with you about HogTied and MenInPain. Men in Pain has a little content there that appears to portray female domination over the male, but much of it is men being gratified by supposedly dominant women.

I'd also be interested in something like HogTied, with the gender roles reversed, although I'd like the women to play a little more pivotal role. I at least want it to be clear that a woman is in charge of the male. The sites that Akasha listed are all extremely gay-oriented, so you can see bound and dominated men if you like, but it's not women doing it to them.

One site I've found that reverses the typical porn gender roles is CFNM (clothed female naked male). There doesn't seem to be a lot of bondage and struggling, but there is some. Women are always clothed and in charge, and males are naked and vulnerable.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 7:41:29 AM

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quote:

Why? I do not enjoy seeing women stretched up and tortured. But I have to look at those sites to get 'ideas' of fun new things to do with my boys. Do the people who run these sites think that no woman is STRONG enough to suspend a male? Do they think that men are not flexible to be twisted into pretzels? Other devices could be used. Men can go in almost every possition or device that a woman can... but you rarely see it.

Or, as mentioned by the OP, does it always come down to the fact that MEN pay for porn? Women generally do not. Maybe we don't pay for it because there is so little of it that appeals to females.

I think it's 'exactly' because men pay for the porn. Most guys wanting to watch hetero bdsm porn (or who contact a pro sub

) are of the, "Yeah! Tie her legs to her hair!! Eight dildos in her pussy and then beat her with a bat!!" kind of mindset. They like extremes.

However, the sub guys couldn't care less about being hurt in their mind, all they want is a lady in leather to attack them with a strap-on, and 'force' them to give her oral- and their preferences are seen in the porn produced.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 7:45:34 AM

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Preaching to the Perverted is one of my faves! Guin Turner is beautiful. I should go watch it again, I seem to have missed the "violent" bits...

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 9:29:16 AM

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Whoa, thanks for the heads up about that film! My girlfriend and I are also quite frustrated with the lack of actual femdom porn/movies.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 10:00:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Preaching to the Perverted is one of my faves! Guin Turner is beautiful. I should go watch it again, I seem to have missed the "violent" bits...

I believe it was the scene where Tanya ties eugenie and flogs her bare bottom in a chapel full of pagan dykes ("cunt power" as they boast!) got the censors in a lather.

Ridiculous, isn't it? "Normal" porn can show some poor woman being rammed in every hole but a smack on the botty is "sick"?????

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 11:13:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I think many femdoms enjoy m/m bondage porn for the focus on the sub, the actors being more charismatic and interesting/sexy, and a few other subtle things you don't see in F/m het porn. I think cues can be taken from sites like:

http://tieguyuk.com/

http://www.extremeboyz.com

and http://www.bondagejeopardy.com

Yes, content like that, but with women in command, would definitely work for me. I thought the preview video at extremeboyz was particularly good.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

When I am at the height of a "femdom lust moment" the idea of dropping 10 - 20k on a pet project seems like a fine idea. Then I have a good lustful femdom session of my own and the hunger goes away and I think of much better ways to spend that kind of money - like a trip to Europe :).

Obviously, for the sake of Art, the submissive men in your area are just going to have to get together and agree not to let you have any lustful femdom sessions until your pet project has come to fruition. The world needs your pornographic genius more than the European tourism industry needs your cash! Perhaps a few of them would let you whore them out to help raise the necessary funding, too.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/5/2008 8:36:16 PM

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A couple of kink.com sites have been mentioned here (hogtied and meninpain). There is one other one, thetrainingofo.com, that I really enjoy. The whole premise of the site is that the sub undergoes 4 days of slave training. The subs are always female. This site is great in that the Dom/me learns about the sub, and the training is geared to helping the sub to grow and/or push limits. On many of the videos there are segments where a FemDom is in charge. The sessions that include Claire Adams are always good!

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/6/2008 4:47:11 AM

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I love Armand Van Helden in the dungeon. Have a giggle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11ftLeMjlw

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/6/2008 5:05:09 AM

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good video Ms C

much better if all the subs asses had no clothes on and they were smacking that ass bare bottoms

good day ..mal

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/6/2008 11:38:37 AM

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I have Preaching to the Perverted and Punish Me, its slowly getting there, but not fast enough for my taste, and Im much of the opinion as the other ladies,
Number of nice Men in Pain vids and some English Mansion ones
But agree that they are male focussed. bah humbug.
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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/7/2008 9:10:52 AM

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What do the femdoms think of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_p95a1Wt4

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/7/2008 10:52:27 AM

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Preaching to the Perverted is indeed an astounding film. It's such eye candy.

I would also suggest 'Exit to Eden,' which is an older movie, but a very fun watch. Rosie O'donnell and Dana Delaney both play FemDoms. And Rosie really looks good! And she's absolutely hilarious.

As for porn I would suggest "Jenna loves Pain." Yes, it's made my men for men, but they did such a good job with it.

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/7/2008 12:13:54 PM

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Gabrielle Cilmni's openly Femdom song and video has Australians all in a lather because she is only 16

Love the duct tape. Hate the suspension bondage - it looks crap and a bit dangerous IMO. Catchy song though....."there's nothin' sweet about me.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElY5Gr845Fw

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/7/2008 12:18:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

What do the femdoms think of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_p95a1Wt4

Akasha

Cute - nice clean looking ropework. Non-consensual of course, but the boy is a cutie :)

Akasha, Femdom videos don't have to cost you money. Creative submissives would be willing to help you out for free.

A friend of mine helps NY pro-dommes make really good Femdom videos for their websites. A lot of work goes into scripts. I cannot post any here (not my copyright) but there is a teaser for one on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc02VlL2zP0&NR=1

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RE: Femdom porn for women... - 9/7/2008 12:38:28 PM

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good video Ms C much better if all the subs asses had no clothes on and they were smacking that ass bare bottoms good day ..mal

LOL....... I agree completely mal. Nice spanking by the gorgeous Spalding Rockwell girls, but unfortunately Armand van Helden is a New York DJ, not a pornographer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11ftLeMjlw

There is an uncensored version of the clip floating around with a bare female bum, but the versions on YouTube all cut it out or blurred her crack. Killjoys!!!

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