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Mayor of "FrozenMooseDick" Alaska, Pop. 9000 (or, if you prefer, about 1/4 of the number of people who were at the DNC last week)
Still more executive experience than Obama has, and in a direct and hands on way.
No. That's not quite true. Illinois Project Vote! in 1992 involved running a larger organization than the Wasilla city government. The logistics of registering in excess of 150,000 previously unregistered residents of Illinois was no small task. That's roughly a quarter of Alaska's entire population for sake of comparison.
This campaign also has to be considered executive experience. He decided who to hire and who to listen to. Simply handling all the internet contributions is a significant undertaking. Then consider his organization campaigned in every state and territory during the primary season, a previously unheard of situation. There haven't been many embarassing revelations and subsequent dismissals of senior campaign staff which is not just a hallmark of McCain's campaign but is essentially de riguer for presidential campaigns during my lifetime. Delegating authority to well chosen subordinates is a trait I certainly look for in a boss, looked for in CO's while in the service and is an important factor in my evaluations of political candidates.
I don't know any of the particulars of that voter registration drive, Ken, but I've been involved with similar sorts of operations. That would qualify him as 'project manager.' Is that 150,000 the total number of signed sheets turned in, or the valid ones? What was the ratio on that? Did he have a volunteer organization, or paid? What was the source of the funding, and was an audit ever conducted? Did he have oversight with payroll and procurement?
Now I'll certainly grant you that running a successful primary campaign against Hillary amounted to something more than the duties of a small-town mayor. Ooh. Ya got me. How does that stack up to bringing down an incumbent governor, and running a state herself?
And let's all remember here, folks, we are comparing the intern slot on one ticket, to the CEO slot on another. The Dems should have woken up to that by now, but I keep getting that variable wrong.
I'm not sure the number of valid ones is known for sure. Some estimates for formas submitted are as high as 400k. The staff was a small paid core with a large group of volunteers. He managed the fundraising. The national Project Vote! likely knows if an audit was carried out. No accusations have ever been made.
Actually this was about you making an inappropriate claim and now refusing to simply acknowledge that it was in error. It is quite clear the mayor of Wasilla Alaska is not a bigger executive position than ones Obama has held and does hold.
If you want to argue Alaska state governor then you may have a case but then I get to point out the essentially unlimited budget, ethics issues and other issues with her time as governor which makes it clear she is not up to now shown any great aptitude for the executive position.
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