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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:24:21 PM   
sublizzie


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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:24:27 PM   
IrishMist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

I used to identify as a submissive, then decided to call myself a switch so no one could call me a fake. 

LOL do you now get those who ask why you are 'confused' though?

I can remember alot of posts through the years from switches asking that question here lmao.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:30:31 PM   
Lynnxz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

I used to identify as a submissive, then decided to call myself a switch so no one could call me a fake. 

LOL do you now get those who ask why you are 'confused' though?

I can remember alot of posts through the years from switches asking that question here lmao.


Hahaha, yes!

I don't know, I see myself as a switch because one: I am not frightened by labels  (O nooooo! How can I possibly be a little unique snowflake if I have a LABEL?!!) They are freaking helpful. This is a boy, this is a girl, this is a dog and now I have labeled them all, and it's helpful. There.

I also enjoy both topping and bottoming when the mood strikes. And yes,  lot of doms tend to get upset when they find out I'm a switch, I don't know if they think I suddenly decide to grab the whip out of my tops hand and start swinging in the middle of a session or what..... They all feel that I *must* be just a confused little helpless girl, and they can make me into the perfect little kitchen whoreslave.

*shrug*

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:35:29 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		Absolutely, every bit of it.

I enjoyed reading all of your posts, lizzie. Thank you.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:38:55 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		Maybe they think you might challenge their authority too much..even if it might be a misplaced fear..it could be.




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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:40:13 PM   
Lynnxz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

Maybe they think you might challenge their authority too much..even if it might be a misplaced fear..it could be.





Some do, I posted a rant about it in one of my journals.

Back to your regularly scheduled subbie thread! :D


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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 1:41:10 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		Funny  BTW 

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 2:08:22 PM   
Icarys


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quote:

perfect little kitchen whoreslave.


What's wrong with that. (Grinz)


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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 2:13:33 PM   
sublizzie


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Status: offline 		I kinda like being a "perfect little kitchen whoreslave". Floats *my* boat!

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 2:19:21 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		I'm sure you do a very good job at it as well. I'm all for it myself.I perved your profile BTW.
Thanks for your comments.


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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 2:48:27 PM   
lizcgirl


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Status: offline 		I identify as a slave on my profile here because I am my Master's slave, simple as that. Before I received my collar my profile stated that I was a  submissive. I am extremely submissive, always have been, always will be. I love being a slave to my Master, it makes me happier than I have ever been. But if I were to ever get released, I would change my profile back to submissive. The submissive in me will always be there no matter what, but I wouldn't become just any one's slave, for me (and I am NOT applying this to any one else at all) it's an even deeper commitment and I wouldn't want to jump right into it or give off the illusion that I would want to- does that make any sense what so ever? lol

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 2:53:31 PM   
IvyMorgan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

Why choose one over the other. Why doesn't if fit you?
Well, my options are

Submissive
Slave
Switch
Dominant

I'm not a dominant, so I don't pick that one.
I don't like the floods of silly messages when I list switch, and think that has more to do with authority exchange as opposed to top/bottom, so I don't pick that one.
I don't like the word slave, and the connotations it has for me, so I don't pick that one.

Which leave Submissive.  So I pick that one.

plus
quote:

Also, I submit, on occasion, as a thing that I do, as part of my sex life.  On even rarer occasions I submit outside of my sex life.  I tend to think of myself more as a bottom now, but it took me a while to be comfortable with that label, being in charge of me is a new idea/thing *smiles*


I think I've just repeated myself, but, hey, you asked.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 3:14:10 PM   
Icarys


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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 3:15:37 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		I guess i was looking for something deeper but that will suffice. Thanks again.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 3:40:28 PM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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Status: offline 		I would also fall into the catagory of "perfect little kitchen whoreslave"...... thanks for that one Lynnxz! 

I consider myself to be a service-oriented, kinky, submissive woman.  Now the kink part and submissive part only apply to a personal relationship, although there are certain submissive traits that I think come out now and then in non-personal settings.  Just depends.

The service-oriented part tends to spill over in my whole life, although it can be burdensome at times and I have to reel myself in or else I get frustrated.

I label myself a slave here.  We consider me to be His property.... a very much loved and cherished, precious to Him piece of property.  I gave Him pretty much complete authority over me and my life.  What parts He chooses to excercise that authority over are up to Him and can vary greatly from day to day, week to week, etc.  Most of the time, we're like any other vanilla couple.  It's the underlying dynamic that makes us Master and slave.

Basically, ~for me~ it's a mindset that the "slave label" seemed to fit better than submissive.

I do think that labels help us to at least get past that first hurdle when searching for any type of relationship, whether it's casual or serious.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 3:46:39 PM   
Lynnxz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sublizzie

I kinda like being a "perfect little kitchen whoreslave". Floats *my* boat!


Not saying its a bad thing at all by the way, I just would be horrible in that kind of situation. :P


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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 4:18:20 PM   
IvyMorgan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

I guess i was looking for something deeper but that will suffice. Thanks again.
I'm not sure if there *is* anything deeper.  At the end of the day, I'm not keen on labels.  If I have to label myself, as I said, I go with "bi, poly, switch" and then hope for a chance to elaborate.

I respond to individuals, irrespective of gender, hence the bi.
I am perfectly capable of loving more than one person at the same time, in different ways, hence the poly.
I like to top and bottom, as well as submit, hence the switch.

I use the submissive label because that's the closest I can come to on CM to express what it is I'm trying to, and then use the text of the profile to be more explicit.

It is a toss up between submissive and slave.

"Slave" takes me to a place where I don't want to be.  A place where I have no control over what happens, where I am helpless, abused, and just surviving.  It's a place I'm doing my damnest to heal from.  And a place I don't want to go back to.

Looking more clinically, the idea of turning myself completely over to someone else, having no control, and simply responding without question or thought, where my whole self is ploughed with a singluar purpose to please another... that to me is slavery, and that is something that I see an appeal in.  So, I'd like that, but you'd just better not call me a slave whilst I'm doing that.

It's very much a case of semantics.  I appreciate this.  And it sounds petty, and it possible is, but, to me, it's important.

So, I really am "submissive" because there's no better CM label.  No amount of trying to be deep and meaningful is working.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 4:21:08 PM   
oceanwynds


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Status: offline 		i spent the majority of my life trying to not be labeled. i find it hard to carry labels all over me. Yes my daughter still considers me an orginal hippie,,label. Many people consider me a witch...label. i was married..label. In my mind it was like wearing a sticker on me by a certain person or group so they could fit me in to where they wish. Now i am experiencing aspects of a submissive..another label. i was in vanilla marriage..label. In the end it does not explain my journey through life or where i am heading now. People tend to like to put others in slots so they have some form of understanding. i tried to stay outside of the labels, but perhaps that too is a label:)

hello my name is oceanwynds, original hippie, witchy woman, widow of a vanilla marriage, and now submissive of a Sir, and i am allergic to labels.
blessings
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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 4:30:32 PM   
oceanwynds


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Status: offline 		Please do know i not putting anyone down who chooses a label. In reality this has been one of my hardest things to get use too in this lifestyle, and i am still working with it. i do hope i did not offend anyone.

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RE: Submissive and Slave. - 9/3/2008 4:34:44 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		Actually that was much deeper now. Without intending to maybe you have given me some insight into your choice. There's always in my opinion a reason behind as to why a female chooses one over the other and even as to why they don't want to choose at all It usually goes deeper than I don't like labels.. There tends to always be something deeper even if they aren't full on conscience of it at the time.

Thank you for the post. 

< Message edited by Icarys -- 9/3/2008 4:43:10 PM >

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