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How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 5:31:24 PM

sujuguete

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As a Master/Dom/Top, how much responsibility do you take for your slave/sub/bottom?

For a Top who mainly does scenes with various play partners, I expect the responsibility is mainly the safety and physical well-being of the bottom during the scene, with perhaps some after care.

For a Master with a slave who has given up all rights and choices and is completely owned, I'm guessing the responsibility is not only for the complete health and physical well-being of the slave, but also for the mental and emotional health of the slave.

Where does your relationship fit in this spectrum? How much responsibility do you assume for your slave or sub?

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 5:37:31 PM

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I am responsible for my own behaviors, actions, any decisions that I make, and any consequences and actions of my girl that are the result of those decisions. She is reponsible for her own behaviors and actions resulting from decisions I allow her to make.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 5:46:08 PM

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Okay, understood, but my question is: how much responsibility do you take for her? Her well-being, not her actions.

Sorry if I phrased it poorly.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 5:52:30 PM

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My Pet is not the "no rights, no choice" slave type, but I can override her desires. I not only take full responsibilities for my actions, but anything I command her to do. Anything she does, not of my command, is on her.

In this regard, I agree with MR.

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Some light reading about responsibility of subordinates. Overall, I agree with the outcome, and feel a pet should stand up and say so if she knows something is wrong. I know how thin a line that is, how vague the statement is, and how it could easily go unnoticed. It's horrible to be put in that position (and potentially harder for a solider), and as such I avoid putting her there.

If I ever told her to do something wrong, I expect... nay... demand flack for it.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 5:58:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sujuguete

Okay, understood, but my question is: how much responsibility do you take for her? Her well-being, not her actions.

Sorry if I phrased it poorly.

See above.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 6:02:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sujuguete

Okay, understood, but my question is: how much responsibility do you take for her? Her well-being, not her actions.

Sorry if I phrased it poorly.

For her well being? In a mental and/or physical sense? It really depends on the context of the issue regarding their well-being. I would bend over backwards to take care of a partner who was physically ill, but I am quite quick to say "Okay, this is your baggage to deal with" regarding mental issues, because it is just simply not a good idea to take on the responsibility of playing "Mr. Fixer".

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 6:09:21 PM

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He doesn't take responsibility 'for' me. He is responsible for his actions, decisions and the consequences of them. I am responsible for my actions and the decisions he has me make. Being a slave in this house does not mean that we abdicate responsibility for ourselves.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 6:43:22 PM

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As a Domme I also looked out for the emotional well being of my subs even though they were only play partners. Many of them spent more time online with me emailing or in chat, letting me know more about their desires and fears, and I guided them.

As a slave my Master watches over me in many ways even though we do not live together. When I had to take my car in to be repaired he contacted me to see if I needed a ride to get groceries, he helps me with problems or with finding my way around a city that is still new to me, and has helped me with some financial matters. I think that there is typically a big difference between how much extra care a slave gets compared to a play sub. Of course, it depends on the Dom/me.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 8:11:37 PM

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being in a M-s relationship i take responsibility for all her actions and for any consequences that may occur from what I tell her to do.
That includes anything that I have to answer for even to God on judgement day. I take that level of responsibility.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 9:05:29 PM

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What Rabbit and Kyra said :)

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/8/2008 9:25:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

As a Domme I also looked out for the emotional well being of my subs even though they were only play partners. Many of them spent more time online with me emailing or in chat, letting me know more about their desires and fears, and I guided them.

As a slave my Master watches over me in many ways even though we do not live together. When I had to take my car in to be repaired he contacted me to see if I needed a ride to get groceries, he helps me with problems or with finding my way around a city that is still new to me, and has helped me with some financial matters. I think that there is typically a big difference between how much extra care a slave gets compared to a play sub. Of course, it depends on the Dom/me.

edited because i misread your post the first two times i read it...sorry its past my bedtime....and now....

On Topic...

No one should or really can take on anothers emotional well being. Its a common misperception that i get asked about a lot from semi kink curious bystanders. i would never dream of asking another soul to repair mine. My soul is what it is and its my duty to protect and maintain.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 1:45:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sujuguete

As a Master/Dom/Top, how much responsibility do you take for your slave/sub/bottom?

For a Top who mainly does scenes with various play partners, I expect the responsibility is mainly the safety and physical well-being of the bottom during the scene, with perhaps some after care.

For a Master with a slave who has given up all rights and choices and is completely owned, I'm guessing the responsibility is not only for the complete health and physical well-being of the slave, but also for the mental and emotional health of the slave.

Where does your relationship fit in this spectrum? How much responsibility do you assume for your slave or sub?

Greetings sujuguete,

As my life is different to others, all I can say is that from the moment she wakes up till the time that she falls asleep, I control her. She is an extension of me and my ethics, and so her actions are accountable in all the day.

Be well.

Frank Ar.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 3:02:03 AM

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Kyra, Lucky Albatross and FrankAr, we are all adults here, and responsible for our own actions.

As I said in post #3, I am not interested in how much responsibility one takes for the actions of another. I am asking what level of responsibility you take for the well-being of your sub/slave.

Thank you to those that have answered the question so far.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 5:48:56 AM

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Gee, I dunno----without any dominant in my life I’d probably cross the street against the walk light. I’d forget to eat; I wouldn’t know that I should go to the doctor if I was ill. I wouldn’t bother to go to work, become homeless or end up in jail because no one told me to pay my bills. I’d become a victim of con men and scams. My life would be sad and hopeless. ~~Rolls eyes~~

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 6:54:40 AM

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That is just it; he doesn't take responsibility for my well-being. That is my responsibility. He is responsible for his actions and decisions. If those actions and decisions threaten my well-being then I am responsible for speaking up and letting him know within the protocals of our relationship. He will assist me in doing what I need to do in order to maintain my well-being. Being a slave in this house does not mean that you get to give up responsibility for yourself and pass it off to him.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 8:17:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sujuguete

Kyra, Lucky Albatross and FrankAr, we are all adults here, and responsible for our own actions.

As I said in post #3, I am not interested in how much responsibility one takes for the actions of another. I am asking what level of responsibility you take for the well-being of your sub/slave.

Thank you to those that have answered the question so far.

Greetings sujuguete,

Then you do not understand your own parameters. Sorry but the name does leave my mind at this point of time, got it....Knight.

You have to understand that there are 100 different ways that there is to what level and name is put to a female in being either a sub or slave. What one person interprets to a female sub or slave is not another's view. You see what you just take aside is what Kyra does within the household of Knight. I am flying blind here and they will correct me if I am wrong. Kyra will do her best to the ability that Knight will lead her to be. She will be herself and move forward in life with her head held high, being guided by Knight. Kyra does her own thing within reason, and this reason is the rules set down by Knight.

I might be different. My slave will follow my rules, full stop. But the bottom line, and this is what I think in my mind, is that both Knight and myself do TAKE every step within our bodys for the well being and responsibilty for the females. Do you actually believe that Kyra would stay in Knight's house if he did not do this.

So with your parameters that you have set within your own thought process with the question is making you have a very thin idea of what responsibilty and well being is within a relationship. The logic behind myself, Knight, LA, and others, that because we do our own thing within the relationship and does not fit your requirement for the well being and responsiblity, is quite narrow.

Be well.

Frank Ar.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 8:30:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: sujuguete

Kyra, Lucky Albatross and FrankAr, we are all adults here, and responsible for our own actions.

As I said in post #3, I am not interested in how much responsibility one takes for the actions of another. I am asking what level of responsibility you take for the well-being of your sub/slave.

Thank you to those that have answered the question so far.

Why ask a question when one does not wish to hear the answers because the answers do not fit your ideas? You have been given the answers, you simply are not seeing them.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 8:34:09 AM

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I can only echo what others have already said.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 8:35:46 AM

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how much responsibility do you take for her? Her well-being, not her actions.

I take full, 100%, responsibility. Absolutely for her "well-being"; I'll even take some responsibility for her actions. That is the nature of our relationship, others may vary.

beth isn't wrapped in bubble wrap. If she falls, or has an accident, I don't take the blame; but I do take on the responsibility to get her 'fixed'. I try to remove from her life things, and people, who cause her distress. I make sure she is comfortable, in the comforts I surround myself. I've done my best to eliminate any other 'masters' in her life as to not create a conflict from her serving me.

As long as she is honest with me her mental, emotional state are served by our relationship. her responsibility is serving the relationship we established over 5 years ago. We have that in common. We are both responsible for the care and feeding of it. Maybe that can be interpreted as her having responsibility for herself. Perspective is everything. However, at the most basic level I'm confident that under any analysis; I'd be the credited, or blamed, for having the responsibility for beth's "well-being".

BTW - I enjoy the responsibility.

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RE: How much responsibility do you take? - 9/9/2008 8:46:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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how much responsibility do you take for her? Her well-being, not her actions.

I take full, 100%, responsibility. Absolutely for her "well-being"; I'll even take some responsibility for her actions. That is the nature of our relationship, others may vary.

beth isn't wrapped in bubble wrap. If she falls, or has an accident, I don't take the blame; but I do take on the responsibility to get her 'fixed'. I try to remove from her life things, and people, who cause her distress. I make sure she is comfortable, in the comforts I surround myself. I've done my best to eliminate any other 'masters' in her life as to not create a conflict from her serving me.

As long as she is honest with me her mental, emotional state are served by our relationship. her responsibility is serving the relationship we established over 5 years ago. We have that in common. We are both responsible for the care and feeding of it. Maybe that can be interpreted as her having responsibility for herself. Perspective is everything. However, at the most basic level I'm confident that under any analysis; I'd be the credited, or blamed, for having the responsibility for beth's "well-being".

BTW - I enjoy the responsibility.

I've seen some who might think that was a red flag. I disagree. Her focus should be on You and the relationship.

For the OP I assume all responsibility for my females. I make all the decissions so why not. They're responsibility is to the relationship, doing the best they can(not what they think is best but what i think is best) to be here for me for whatever reasons i might have.I in turn take on the emotional and physical needs they might have. They also have a responsibilty to convey those needs in a proper way.

Greetings to you Merc'n'beth

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