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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 10:15:38 AM

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Unless your focus is on stem cell research, or high energy physics... the US government banned, or underfunded their research... so most of the best minds of those disciplines are out of the US, working in other countries.... Of course, this means that the results of that research will beloong to foreign powers...

Where have we heard this before?

Oh, yeah...

It was when nazi germany forced jewish physicists, (including Einstien himself) to leave the fatherland... Luckily, the US was there to offer them sanctuary, and they were available to us for the "Manhattan Project." (Also a very expensive government science experiment.)

I wonder who came out ahead on THAT?

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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 11:51:22 AM

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Actually, the danger of the black holes isn't expected to occur for some months -- not until the collisions are started (which, according to scientists at the CERN facility, will not be for another 3 months or so).

As far as cheapskates and funding research in the basic sciences, my Darling is a biochemist, and a basic science researcher doing cancer research. Federal grants funding basic science research have been cut 30-60% a year for the past 6 years. Research projects on vital basic comprehension of cancer that she has been working on have been closed down -twice- because they weren't 'sexy' enough to qualify for non-government funding, and the government was no longer funding basic research -at all- on those tracks. (Factoid: Basic research is almost NEVER 'sexy science'!) Because the research she does is basic research (not clinical research directly focused on drug development), drug companies and other sources of private funding, feeling crunched from the heavy pressure on their own funding systems from the withdrawal of government funding on basic science projects, no longer fund basic research and are funneling all resources into high-profile, high-return drug options.

If people want our country to be able to take care of itself and continue to make new discoveries and expand on current understanding in -all- hard-science fields, individuals are going to have to deal with the fact that they're going to have to pay for the research.

Maybe we'll all fall into a black hole and it will save us from ending up proving the movie Idiocracy to be prophecy instead of satire.

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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 2:09:40 PM

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Calla, you're making my point, people are *too dependant* on U.S. govt. Taxdollars for research!
I just came from the pharmacy and they wanted $169 for 10 pills!
Big Pharma is getting their research money back in spades, $17 for one pill!
There is a tendency in this country to , "put everything on the Taxpayer."
I think every man, woman and child in the U.S. now owes something like $30k from that type of thinking!
The country is broke!
We can't continue to spend money that we won't even have in 20 years.

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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 2:19:08 PM

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And the assholes responsible for doubling the national debt in the last 8 years are....?

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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 2:35:50 PM

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And the assholes responsible for doubling the national debt in the last 8 years are....?

Ahhhhh, Bush the congress and the senate?

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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 3:10:20 PM

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The CERN project is supposed to answer some fundamental questions that we could have had answered already if congress hadn't canceled the supercollider down in Texas.

Checked my memory with some of the Piled Higher and Deepers I've worked with...

If one of the lesser probably theories about fundamental particles proves to be the right one and micro black holes are created, they will fall to the center of the earth and start dissolving matter. It should have a visible effect a couple of eons after the sun has burned out. Looks like an acceptable relative risk to me. And, giving concrete evidence of the direction to go in competing theories of the fundamental nature of reality will certainly have some long term benefits.

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RE: Should i bother going to work tomorrow? - 9/10/2008 6:28:15 PM

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Trying to surpress random masochistic tendencies?

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Anyone know what time this is scheduled to take place? I may have to drive to San Diego and don't want to get stuck in the other 'black hole'; know as the 405/5 in CA.

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