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ORIGINAL: Aneirin What if the west laid down it's arms in countries where it is involved and showed the people of that country another side of the west, the caring side, what do you think would be the result ? I think we'd become less powerful and more respected, which is a form of power, though readily depleted if not cared for. Do you think with our vast reserves of expertise and equipment, we could be doing something better than killing ? I think we as a species probably don't need any more sophisticated killing methods, so shifting 90% of that entire budget to something worthwhile that could deter conflict would be a better survival strategy than enhancing our ability to kill each other more efficiently. So, yes, as there is absolutely no reason a single person on this planet is starving, or without heating. I was just reading about in India, they are building holes that gather household shit, and pig shit, and produce methane for cooking, and highly enriched fertilizer, for virtually no cost out of locally available materials. This stops people from cutting all the trees down, which stop erosion, which saves like 2 hours a day from gathering wood, and decreases exposure to pollution. A 100,000 strong army specializing in building such things could turn a nation from poverty to at least human living conditions in short order, but we prefer to blow shit up. Lovely. If we adopted this role as the caring west, do you think we could make the world a better place ? Humans are designed to either build or destroy, we can be fulfilled doing either, one path is non-constructive the other defines what is necessary to advance. Advancement is in my mind virtually equivalent to goodness. Destruction is generally evil unless destroying means of destruction. We could in a few decades if we chose radically change for the good the whole planet. Why are we so aggressive ? Fear, legitimate threat, power lust, ignorance, paranoia, delusion, ego, history, manipulation, desperation. Ultimately I think a bit of aggression and lust to destroy and control is hard wired into all of us. It's the lack of admitting we have these flaws that keeps us from rising above them, that whole thing jesus talked about and sin, we are all born with the desire to sin, admitting it is the only way to resist it. Never trust anyone that says they don't have sinful thoughts, as that is the person, nation, group, that is wallowing in its own perverse motivations. Perfection is a myth. Women fart, Men want their balls licked. So, to answer you question why are we so aggressive? It's because we can't let go of the concept that we are above it all, and thus ignore data to the contrary as an aggregate group. This denial of aggression, allows aggression to be maintained. As long as you can convince the populace(enough of them anyway) they are peaceful, and good, and the government is a reflection of their superior character then nothing will be done to stop impossible aggression. I think its broad based promoted mental illness. Look at N. Korea, to see the power of group think, and blunt manipulation. While that is an extreme example much subtler examples occur everywhere. Anyway, I'm tired, hope that made sense at all. ramble, ramble, ramble.
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