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Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 3:19:24 PM   
BeachBear


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I am a male submissive who is in a new area of the country, with a new Domme, and find myself is a wierd, touchy situation. I guess some background is in order.

I am one of "those" people who are cursed with being not only a submissive, but a rabid extrovert as well. In all of the D/s relationships that I have been in, over three decades, I have wound up being the one who gets contacted when a play party gets set up, did the general coordinating for our activity schedule... you get the idea. Yes, protocol usually dictates that one Domme contacts another, and things get set, but often real life interferes with protocol (eh?).

Flash forward. I have been with my new Domme for about 45 days. She has been established in the area for quite sometime, but is a bit of a social introvert. When we interveiwed, she seemed delighted to have someone that would present a great public face, who would stay active in our social contacts, create new ones, start packing the calendar. Well, I did my "job". Last night the conversation went something like this:

"Ma'am, we have three private play parties that we are invited to, in addition to the munches this weekend, and we can only make two. Care to take a look and see which one we "can't make"?".

"This bothers me.".

"Ma'am?".

"You received these invitations, not me".

"Ma'am, these are all Dommes that you have approved me corresponding with, and all invitations, either telephonic, text, or email were aimed at the two of us".

"They should have been sent to me, but they were sent to you. Think about it, Pet. I have been in the area for years, you show up and in 45 days, we are "popular". Clearly they are fishing for you, not interested in me.".

"Ma'am? Bullshit. They were sent to both of us. They were "addressed" to me because I'm the dipshit that spends two hours a day on email with them, and talks to them (incessantly) on the phone. If you were a motormouth extrovert, like your Pet, it would be you that fielded the invite. I just happened to be the one near "the mail box" when they arrived".

"I'll go, but I'm not happy, *I* should have been invited and asked to bring my Pet, not the reverse...".

Ok. I can start to respond to all invites and inquiries with the protocol fallback "This lowly sub can't receive invitations, please forward any interest to Domina "X"", and pray that someone, (anyone!) follows through. I cannot and will not make my Domina seem wonky within her own community by communicating back channel that we have an insecurity issue, and would they please make her feel good by sending the invite to her (?). I know that left to her introverted devices, the calendar will become blank again, and that is something that she specifically doesn't want to happen, she is really enjoying the activity.

I know, some pretty minor shit in the big scheme, but hoping a Domme can help me keep my Domme happy
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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 3:48:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachBear

I am a male submissive who is in a new area of the country, with a new Domme, and find myself is a wierd, touchy situation. I guess some background is in order.

I am one of "those" people who are cursed with being not only a submissive, but a rabid extrovert as well. In all of the D/s relationships that I have been in, over three decades, I have wound up being the one who gets contacted when a play party gets set up, did the general coordinating for our activity schedule... you get the idea. Yes, protocol usually dictates that one Domme contacts another, and things get set, but often real life interferes with protocol (eh?).

Flash forward. I have been with my new Domme for about 45 days. She has been established in the area for quite sometime, but is a bit of a social introvert. When we interveiwed, she seemed delighted to have someone that would present a great public face, who would stay active in our social contacts, create new ones, start packing the calendar. Well, I did my "job". Last night the conversation went something like this:

"Ma'am, we have three private play parties that we are invited to, in addition to the munches this weekend, and we can only make two. Care to take a look and see which one we "can't make"?".

"This bothers me.".

"Ma'am?".

"You received these invitations, not me".

"Ma'am, these are all Dommes that you have approved me corresponding with, and all invitations, either telephonic, text, or email were aimed at the two of us".

"They should have been sent to me, but they were sent to you. Think about it, Pet. I have been in the area for years, you show up and in 45 days, we are "popular". Clearly they are fishing for you, not interested in me.".

"Ma'am? Bullshit. They were sent to both of us. They were "addressed" to me because I'm the dipshit that spends two hours a day on email with them, and talks to them (incessantly) on the phone. If you were a motormouth extrovert, like your Pet, it would be you that fielded the invite. I just happened to be the one near "the mail box" when they arrived".

"I'll go, but I'm not happy, *I* should have been invited and asked to bring my Pet, not the reverse...".

Ok. I can start to respond to all invites and inquiries with the protocol fallback "This lowly sub can't receive invitations, please forward any interest to Domina "X"", and pray that someone, (anyone!) follows through. I cannot and will not make my Domina seem wonky within her own community by communicating back channel that we have an insecurity issue, and would they please make her feel good by sending the invite to her (?). I know that left to her introverted devices, the calendar will become blank again, and that is something that she specifically doesn't want to happen, she is really enjoying the activity.

I know, some pretty minor shit in the big scheme, but hoping a Domme can help me keep my Domme happy


Why are you spending two hours a day online with them and talking incessantly on the phone with them?

Akasha

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 3:59:20 PM   
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Ok from a sub point of view and also using some similarities....

Let´s say your mistress is a celebrity, like Madonna (hmm as good pick as anyone :P)
Could you imagine Madonna calling people and spending her precious time looking for big parties or social events? She has people to do that, public relations people,,, or in your case, a pet like yourself
And if anyone wants to invite MAdonna to her event, that person contacts her PR guy, she can´t be bothered by stuff like that.

Maybe I´m just being silly but if your mistress can use you in that way, as a PR person/pet for her, doing all this prepotary social stuff, it´s all good.

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 4:12:51 PM   
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I agree with LindaLashes. you are only doing the job your Mistress has asked you to do. She was clearly pleased with that attribute during the course of initial meetings. I would ask her if she would perhaps like to take over some of the corresponding. If she says no, then just keep doing what you are doing. It is what she wanted you to do.

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 4:13:11 PM   
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I for one would be very happy to have a social secretary.

When I am sending invitations (bear in mind that as an event organizer, I do this often) I send an invitation to BOTH parties, if I have an email for both of them, or to the person who handles the calendar. How hard is it to ask folks to cc your domme on invitations?

However, I do echo Aakasha in wondering why you are spending so much time online chatting with other women. I applaud your social skills, but I can see where there might be a question in your domme's mind. Face it, we all perk up when there's fresh prey! (whoops, said that in my out loud typing.........) You know what I mean, I'm sure!

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 4:42:43 PM   
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First off I would not take kindly to any submissive telling me what I was saying to them was "Bullshit."

That taken care of, Libby and I make it very clear to people that invitations should be sent to both of us. Snailmail can come in one envelope but there should be two of them and email should go to each of our email addresses.

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 5:10:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BeachBear
Ok. I can start to respond to all invites and inquiries with the protocol fallback "This lowly sub can't receive invitations, please forward any interest to Domina "X"", and pray that someone, (anyone!) follows through.


Perhaps not simply pray that they follow through, but expect that they follow through... and remind them (gently) if they fail to do so.

I think it is good that you do not want to embarass your Domina by telling others that you consider her to be insecure. Perhaps you might want to take it a step further and try to actively make her look good to others. Deflect praise and attention from you to her - give her credit when people thank you. Make it clear to others how much she has improved your life. Make her shine.

If you think she is too insecure and this has limited her, maybe you could gently help her to overcome those barriers. Nudge her into interaction. Keep the spotlight on her, rather than you.


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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 5:17:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachBear
Ok. I can start to respond to all invites and inquiries with the protocol fallback "This lowly sub can't receive invitations, please forward any interest to Domina "X"", and pray that someone, (anyone!) follows through.


Perhaps not simply pray that they follow through, but expect that they follow through... and remind them (gently) if they fail to do so.

I think it is good that you do not want to embarass your Domina by telling others that you consider her to be insecure. Perhaps you might want to take it a step further and try to actively make her look good to others. Deflect praise and attention from you to her - give her credit when people thank you. Make it clear to others how much she has improved your life. Make her shine.

If you think she is too insecure and this has limited her, maybe you could gently help her to overcome those barriers. Nudge her into interaction. Keep the spotlight on her, rather than you.




I failed to mention this earlier, but taking the above points in mind the OP should also consider that the dominant's "irritation" with the way the invites were being handled is but a symptom of an underlying problem that needs to be addressed. That's why communication is so important in BDSM. Something rubs her the wrong way about the way this is being handled and he needs to get to the bottom of it, rather than speculate that it is insecurity. It very well may be - but whatever it is, the problem should be sorted out.

Akasha

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 5:45:33 PM   
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Random thoughts -

It seems your Domme was fairly direct in telling you this bothers me and explaining what it is. It appears she is communicating pretty clearly and not letting this go unspoken and resentment builds up.

It also seems she is not upset with the way you are handling the invitations. She is bothered by the fact YOU received the invitations. By this, I don't mean they were sent to your email or you were the one on the phone. She said, "I have been in the area for years, you show up and in 45 days, we are "popular".

She means that without you, she would not have received this many invitations. And that may not be "bullshit." That is probably an accurate statement. The reason may be that you are more social or that people want to make the new person feel welcome or that they are interested int he "fresh meat." Whatever the reason, she is observing a difference in the behavior of other people. Whether the invitations were to you both is immaterial. The point is she has to wonder why she was not previously so sought after and reflect on her weakness in that area. I suspect that would work itself out in time.

In the meantime I would handle it much the way you are. I would ask your Domme if she wants you to handle your interactions with others any differently. (Not accept invites, spend less time socializing, etc.) I would respond to every invitation with a polite thank you and a "I will pass this on to my Domme for her consideration. In the future will you please cc her email at (email) as well, so that she can be aware of the event?" Telephone may be different. And if she expresses concern over the sudden popularity, I would not diminish her feelings but just say, "I am pleased my social nature can be of service to you" or "I am so proud to have you as my Domme, I guess my enthusiasm has been apparent to those I speak with" or something similar.


(Actually, both of those last comments sound kinda lame now that I reread them. But there must be something along those lines that would be helpful.)


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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 6:06:34 PM   
BeachBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachBear

I am a male submissive who is in a new area of the country, with a new Domme, and find myself is a wierd, touchy situation. I guess some background is in order.

I am one of "those" people who are cursed with being not only a submissive, but a rabid extrovert as well. In all of the D/s relationships that I have been in, over three decades, I have wound up being the one who gets contacted when a play party gets set up, did the general coordinating for our activity schedule... you get the idea. Yes, protocol usually dictates that one Domme contacts another, and things get set, but often real life interferes with protocol (eh?).

Flash forward. I have been with my new Domme for about 45 days. She has been established in the area for quite sometime, but is a bit of a social introvert. When we interveiwed, she seemed delighted to have someone that would present a great public face, who would stay active in our social contacts, create new ones, start packing the calendar. Well, I did my "job". Last night the conversation went something like this:

"Ma'am, we have three private play parties that we are invited to, in addition to the munches this weekend, and we can only make two. Care to take a look and see which one we "can't make"?".

"This bothers me.".

"Ma'am?".

"You received these invitations, not me".

"Ma'am, these are all Dommes that you have approved me corresponding with, and all invitations, either telephonic, text, or email were aimed at the two of us".

"They should have been sent to me, but they were sent to you. Think about it, Pet. I have been in the area for years, you show up and in 45 days, we are "popular". Clearly they are fishing for you, not interested in me.".

"Ma'am? Bullshit. They were sent to both of us. They were "addressed" to me because I'm the dipshit that spends two hours a day on email with them, and talks to them (incessantly) on the phone. If you were a motormouth extrovert, like your Pet, it would be you that fielded the invite. I just happened to be the one near "the mail box" when they arrived".

"I'll go, but I'm not happy, *I* should have been invited and asked to bring my Pet, not the reverse...".

Ok. I can start to respond to all invites and inquiries with the protocol fallback "This lowly sub can't receive invitations, please forward any interest to Domina "X"", and pray that someone, (anyone!) follows through. I cannot and will not make my Domina seem wonky within her own community by communicating back channel that we have an insecurity issue, and would they please make her feel good by sending the invite to her (?). I know that left to her introverted devices, the calendar will become blank again, and that is something that she specifically doesn't want to happen, she is really enjoying the activity.

I know, some pretty minor shit in the big scheme, but hoping a Domme can help me keep my Domme happy


Why are you spending two hours a day online with them and talking incessantly on the phone with them?

Akasha


Thay have become friends, friends to us as a couple, and personal friends. One of them I am working on an envenomation protocol with (we are physicians).

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 6:08:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

First off I would not take kindly to any submissive telling me what I was saying to them was "Bullshit."

That taken care of, Libby and I make it very clear to people that invitations should be sent to both of us. Snailmail can come in one envelope but there should be two of them and email should go to each of our email addresses.


I always have permission to speak frankly and in the vernacular with my Domina. That's just our dynamic, her call.

-b

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 6:20:12 PM   
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My Thanks to all. I will probably forward all invites, asking that my Domina CC me with response (whenever possible), this will somewhat force social interaction, and create bonds between her and the folks that I already have created bonds with. It was kind of sad last Saturday night when, right in front of my Domina, I was asked to a rather advanced private party, and then the invite was (as a sedond thought) then directed to her. I know that the reason that I was invited was that there will be a lot of scapel work, and I am a physician (kinda good to have one around), but it seemed a slight to my lady, and I did my best to ameliorate any bad feelings.

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 6:21:28 PM   
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If these are formal invitations, Have the sender send to "her" in care of "you". Maybe this will make her feel more incontrol of the situation. ?

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 6:45:27 PM   
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I agree completely, She either does the social thing, or lets you do it, its a damn invite--I can't tell you how many vanilla invites I get addressed to Mr! and there is no Mr.--a sub needs to look after his Domme as much as She looks after him----who cares, when Y/you get to the party there will be no question Who owns whom--after the first few, the protocol will set in---now the chatting 2 hours a day with a Domme, hmm I have issue with that one, if its a medical procedure, meet in a coffee shop with Ms permission.

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 6:46:57 PM   
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and the invite was a slight, I would have expected My sub to turn to Me and say Mistress, your thoughts please---

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 7:14:51 PM   
BeachBear


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and the invite was a slight, I would have expected My sub to turn to Me and say Mistress, your thoughts please---


... and I did. "Dr, we're having a cutting party at a private residence next Saturday Night, would you honor us by attending? Oh... your Lady as well". "Domina, what is your desire?" "I'll take a look at our schedule, and have you respond, thanks Sir "T" for the invite".


Simple manners are generally not lost on me, nor sensitivity to my Domme/Lover's feelings.

-bear

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 7:20:29 PM   
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I agree completely, She either does the social thing, or lets you do it, its a damn invite--I can't tell you how many vanilla invites I get addressed to Mr! and there is no Mr.--a sub needs to look after his Domme as much as She looks after him----who cares, when Y/you get to the party there will be no question Who owns whom--after the first few, the protocol will set in---now the chatting 2 hours a day with a Domme, hmm I have issue with that one, if its a medical procedure, meet in a coffee shop with Ms permission.


The couple of hours is not with one Domme, just friends who are Dommes. Dr. "T" and I usually talk oin cell, whilst flipping spread sheets via computer at the same time. I fully realize that coming up with a life saving envenomation program should take second seat to BDSM protocol, but the researcher in me seems to override common sense.

shuddering with the irony,

bear
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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 7:20:36 PM   
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If your Mistress feels that she should receive all future invitations, then that change should be made for all future social events.

I think it would be important to determine whether she is bothered by the fact that you are the primary person corresponding with other Dommes or that you are the one receiving more attention. I think the latter case might be cause for concern.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 7:31:13 PM   
BeachBear


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ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

If your Mistress feels that she should receive all future invitations, then that change should be made for all future social events.

I think it would be important to determine whether she is bothered by the fact that you are the primary person corresponding with other Dommes or that you are the one receiving more attention. I think the latter case might be cause for concern.

Be well,
Julie



My Domina is pretty clear on the subject. "I have been in the scene for years, not one private party invite. You hit the scene, and we have moer than we can attend. I enjoy a trophy sub as much as the next Domme, but this kinda hurts".

The "trophy sub" was flattering, but the fact of the matter is that I revel and thrive in social contact, and have done so for decades. When my Domme and I are at a party, I say 20 words to her one AND she wants it that way, she is a bit shy and likes me being "our" voice. I just need her to internalize that she is loved and appreciated, and that I am just providing a type of social/secretarial service to the Domina & woman that I love.

warm regards,

bear

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RE: Weirdness: Domme Insecurity - 11/29/2005 7:36:13 PM   
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somehow I would never expect that they were--now that I know you are in NC gawd---I get why the invites went to you and why She was " shunned"--I wish you both well---oh and some advice-- we Dommes lovingly call this area the testosterone belt---it seems that the Doms tend to stick together and ahem think that female Domination rather a joke--and shun or exclude them--in favor of Male supremacy----it all makes sense now---

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