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Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 6:45:04 AM   
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I always find it a huge shame that Dom/mes often feel that the world must cowtow to their rules in order to be worthy of being involved with them. This sort of provincial thinking really is devisive and petty.
It makes it so hard for people with differing cultures and attitudes to relate and form a community.
This sort of small town thinking isnt very effective especially on the internet where one is bound to meet people who have different tastes and proceedures for doing just about everything.
The pendants will say, oh if only they did things properly!!, oh if only they read the rules!!
People have differing taste and likes, if one sets things up to their own liking and expects others to just change if they enter their own little world, that world will be very bland indeed.
I was raised in Michigan so I understand that small town mindset but a community of people with differing ideas and ways of doing things is such a joy if we are just not so myopic as to insist on comformity.
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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 7:19:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: riskrewarded

I always find it a huge shame that Dom/mes often feel that the world must cowtow to their rules in order to be worthy of being involved with them. This sort of provincial thinking really is devisive and petty.
It makes it so hard for people with differing cultures and attitudes to relate and form a community.


Hmmm...I find it a huge shame when someone generalizes about all or many, based on their experiences with "some."

K

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 8:04:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: riskrewarded

I always find it a huge shame that Dom/mes often feel that the world must cowtow to their rules in order to be worthy of being involved with them.


I am finding more and more on this site submissives/slaves who feel this way. I think before you can make such a sweeping statement as fact, you must first get to know every single Domme on collarme. I don't know you. I have never had an email from you and we have never spoken in a chatroom, so I refuse to be lumped into your idea of how Dommes are. My advice to you is to edit your comment to read "Some Dom/mes".


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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 8:11:11 AM   
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Meh. Some are like that; some aren't.


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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 8:47:16 AM   
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i don't fully understand the Op post. Didn't we JUST have a thread on "Why Do You Take It', in which a bitch-fest was held about the standards set by submissives and slaves for Masters/Doms/Dommes who might wish to collar them?

What -- is this the companion piece? i frankly almost never see anything written on a Master's or Dom's profile; and find it very refreshing when i do. If a Man is looking for a 35 yr old woman; or a discreet relationship because He's married; or craves redheads; all these are information i'd like to know so we don't waste one another's time. See the thread "Dominants and Masters Profiles".

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 8:52:12 AM   
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risk rewarded-------

lemme say this much

1st
it is always about the D side...............not the s side.
2nd
not ALL dommes/mistress' feel this way.

many are very sweet loving caring giving people. SOME are real sadistic mean spirited beings........but there are a lot of boys out there LIKE it that way. SOME of us boys crave CONTROL........we WANT the dommes to be demanding............some of us like it back n forth.......
everyone is different.
please try to look around more. you WILL find some very nice people on here...
even though "I" ruffle feathers around here..........even "I" have found some wonderful Dommes/Mistress' here
take care
best wishes


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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:02:18 AM   
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I have certain groundrules that My slaves must follow. respect, a gentle caring attitude toward the world, etc, but EVERY slave is respected for his culture, background, beliefs etc. I have had Arabic, East Indian, Muslim, Hindu Jewish slaves as well as Black, disabled, seniors, etc and EVERY slave is respected for what s/he brings to the Collar.

I do ask My slaves to (in real time) be respectful toward ALL Women, seeing in each one, a fragment of the Divine Feminine of the universe. I also teach them to be open and receptive.

As for insisting on respect, I will say that a certain degree of decorum is asked. The slave who signed off with Me last night with the closing phrase "G'night Kiddo!" is NOT going to get much of My attention until he shapes up! I am NOBODY'S "Kiddo"! Really!

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:06:01 AM   
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LadySonelle
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face it m'Ladyship.......You are just TOO nice.........

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:10:24 AM   
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Wait a second; you mean that Doms/Dommes are not supposed to expect people to worship them. OK if you are going to change the rules SEND OUT A MEMO!!!!!!!!! How can we keep being pleasing to you if you do not instruct us in how to behave? We are only human.
OK if you’re done laughing….
There are some sub types that want to put Domly types on a pedestal and expect them to be demanding and arrogant. And there are Domly types that come across that way to some people simply because they see no reason to beat around the bush when it’s so much more fun to beat on someone’s ass…
And some of us act that way when we are all lumped into one big amorphous mess.
There are good cops and bad ones. Caring and kind doctors and total jerks. Lawyers that work for the betterment of mankind and greedy ambulance chasers. Three are politicians that try to serve humanity (I think 5 of them in Canada, I always vote for one of them where I live even though I hate his party leader and have told him that) and then there is the other kind. There are evil Domly types and then…
Just like there a loving intelligent submissives and slaves and then there are whiny bitchy disobedient players.
Two sides to each coin.
Tony

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:13:11 AM   
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As for insisting on respect, I will say that a certain degree of decorum is asked. The slave who signed off with Me last night with the closing phrase "G'night Kiddo!" is NOT going to get much of My attention until he shapes up! I am NOBODY'S "Kiddo"! Really!

Lady Sonelle


Well put! Respect is earned however a certain amount of respect is due anyone that hasn't proven they are unworthy of it. At least that's the way I see life myopically. Manners are justified at all times which is what I believe you are referring to as decorum. There's no excuse for poor manners excepting with those that have already proven they are the northbound end of a southbound horse.

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:27:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan


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ORIGINAL: riskrewarded

I always find it a huge shame that Dom/mes often feel that the world must cowtow to their rules in order to be worthy of being involved with them. This sort of provincial thinking really is devisive and petty.
It makes it so hard for people with differing cultures and attitudes to relate and form a community.


Hmmm...I find it a huge shame when someone generalizes about all or many, based on their experiences with "some."

K


First of all sweetie I never generalized about the "all" and you have no idea if Ive only had experience with "some" thats something you are assuming about me based on your experiences.

donyah think.

Im not saying at all that all Dom/mes are like this, Im just saying its a shame that often, and often doesnt mean "all" it means a reasonable percentage, Dom/mes act like the world should change to meet their expectations.

Im not insulting small towns Im just saying that the way one deals with things in a small town isnt apt for an international community.

I just read on a Las Vegas board a rant on how a Dom knows Las Vegas is rude but hes from the midwest, where its good to be polite, so the rudeness will make him mad and people just have to get used to it.

No buddy, youre on a Las Vegas site, telling Las Vegas people they dont act correctly, and they have to change to suit you.

Not likely.

I meet lots of great people too who have a more thoughtful mindset and thats cool but I think people get too myopic in their groups or munches or lil chat rooms and miss out on the pleasures of diversity.

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:42:06 AM   
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/scratches head in confusion

Is it me, or does the OP make no sense at all anymore? Where did Las Vegas come in? And WTF is this?
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donyah think.


Has a new language been developed that I don't know about?


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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:47:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dommemagnet


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle


As for insisting on respect, I will say that a certain degree of decorum is asked. The slave who signed off with Me last night with the closing phrase "G'night Kiddo!" is NOT going to get much of My attention until he shapes up! I am NOBODY'S "Kiddo"! Really!

Lady Sonelle


Well put! Respect is earned however a certain amount of respect is due anyone that hasn't proven they are unworthy of it. At least that's the way I see life myopically. Manners are justified at all times which is what I believe you are referring to as decorum. There's no excuse for poor manners excepting with those that have already proven they are the northbound end of a southbound horse.


I have to disagree strongly here as well except for the part where magnet says hes being myopic, manners are pretty fluid from place to place.

When I lived in Pittsburgh youd never nudge a person out of your way to get across the street but if a person was stopped at a green light you sure as heck would honk your horn. When I lived in New York a person gawking and holding up foot traffic gets knocked out of the way and its not rude, that person is rude for holding up foot traffic.

When I was in Australia saying "G'night Kiddo" is a very friendly way to say goodbye as its a pretty informal culture, unless one tells the person its a problem its pretty silly to expect people to read their mind and act accordingly.

Unless hes yours right?

And if hes yours maybe you have to work on training huh?

Dom/mes dealing with Dom/mes are bound to have alot of differing ideas on how to do this or that. If you are to enjoy the company of people in your own community and to learn form other people like we all must one must get over their own ideas of cultural norms in a broad community such as this one.

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 9:48:55 AM   
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/scratches head in confusion

Is it me, or does the OP make no sense at all anymore? Where did Las Vegas come in? And WTF is this?
quote:

donyah think.


Has a new language been developed that I don't know about?




yes its called takethatstickoutyourbuttish

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 10:00:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: riskrewarded

I always find it a huge shame that Dom/mes often feel that the world must cowtow to their rules in order to be worthy of being involved with them. This sort of provincial thinking really is devisive and petty.

As has been posted in many a thread, including by me, if you don't like it, move on. If one person just can't abide the terms another person has put on her own search, or her own life, the the two of you are not right for each other.

It makes it so hard for people with differing cultures and attitudes to relate and form a community.

Well, yes, I suppose it could. Especially if people generalize about large numbers of others and complain about their attitudes. If one is talking about this board in particular, in the short time I've been frequenting it I've noticed a wide variation in attitudes, mindsets, call it what you will, amongst the Dommes who post here. To me it does seem like a community.

This sort of small town thinking isnt very effective especially on the internet where one is bound to meet people who have different tastes and proceedures for doing just about everything.

It is a small town. There are only a few score regular posters here. But small town does not mean homogeneous. There is still plenty of room for variation. I live in a town of 6000 or so, and am surrounded by people from all over the world, all points on the political, spiritual, and moral spectra. I'm sure there are even a few kinky folk too...I just gotta find them.

The pendants will say, oh if only they did things properly!!, oh if only they read the rules!!
People have differing taste and likes, if one sets things up to their own liking and expects others to just change if they enter their own little world, that world will be very bland indeed.

Are you not then insisting on others following your rules? Your rule that if people have wants/needs/expectations that are too "conventional" or "mainstream" they are turning your world bland, and must change their attitudes and way of life?

I was raised in Michigan so I understand that small town mindset but a community of people with differing ideas and ways of doing things is such a joy if we are just not so myopic as to insist on comformity.

Some people like conformity, at least in some parts of their lives. But what seems like conformity may simply be like-minded people coming together to discuss matters of common interest.

I have not noticed too many people here insisting that others follow a protocol, or set of rules for posting here, or for life in general. If I do run across one, I'm free to ignore the posts and continue to muddle through my own life.

In r/l (for lack of an easier term) I've been lucky enough to have several Domme friends, one of whom is one of the best friends I've ever had. All of them are very different people, both on the D/s side and on the everyday "vanilla" side. I have not had any D/s interactions with them (well...except for one ) but there is no "conformity", no effort to remake the world in one particular image. No sorry...there is one common trait...far lower tolerance for BS than I have.




Just my 2¢ worth.

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 10:15:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: riskrewarded

I just read on a Las Vegas board a rant on how a Dom knows Las Vegas is rude but hes from the midwest, where its good to be polite, so the rudeness will make him mad and people just have to get used to it.

No buddy, youre on a Las Vegas site, telling Las Vegas people they dont act correctly, and they have to change to suit you.

Not likely.


Would that be the same way you want people to change here?


I meet lots of great people too who have a more thoughtful mindset and thats cool but I think people get too myopic in their groups or munches or lil chat rooms and miss out on the pleasures of diversity.

I'm not sure what the munches, parties are like out your way, but the ones I frequent are anything but conformist. Unless you count common interests in D/s, SM, and/or alternative sexuality as some sort of bland homogenizing force.

If I collected stamps, I would not go to a coin collectors meeting and complain that everyone was spending way too much time discussing coin collecting and their shared interest in it. You seem to insist on being that ornery stamp collector in this forum. People here share some common interests, and discuss them amongst themselves.

I'm sure that in their non-D/s lives they cover pretty much every base as far as politics, religion, morality, spirituality, you name it, goes. But here on a D/s themed message board, they --gasp-- discuss D/s related themes for the most part.


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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 10:34:14 AM   
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Two sides to each coin.
Phoenxx/Tony


How do i find one on the other side of the coin?

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 10:37:36 AM   
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/scratches head in confusion

Is it me, or does the OP make no sense at all anymore? Where did Las Vegas come in? And WTF is this? quote:

quote:

donyah think.

riskrewarded


Has a new language been developed that I don't know about?

IrishMist


Gets out the nice hairbrush and brushes IrishMist's hair while we wait for our new CM language books to be delivered.

candystripper


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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 10:43:05 AM   
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yes its called takethatstickoutyourbuttish

riskrewarded


O my..a troll i think. Where's the troll-be-gone?

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RE: Petty Dom/mes - 11/30/2005 10:45:23 AM   
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I have to say, I'm a little taken back by this posters condescension towards Dominants as a whole in regards to the fact that she doesn't feel that she should have to attain or adhere to certain standards or practices in order to be with them. Isn't that sort of an absurd notion being as to many the entire relationship is based upon the following of rules and the need to obey and do what is expected of you. In terms of them being petty, I would say they would be no more petty than any other faction of humanity. Certain people have certain aesthetic, behavioristic and/or idealistic requirements to match up in their own minds with what they desire and enjoy and why would that ever possibly be a bad thing? If you feel outcasted because you didn't meet up with the expectations of someone, that doesn't make them petty, it makes you an improper match. So just move along and hope to find someone whose expecations and needs you are able to meet. It really isn't some intrinsic fault within the system or the people within it

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