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Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 7:51:21 AM   
buffiyum


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one is not sure if this is a subject already tackled.... one has found that during intense bdsm play, there is a 'beast' which seeks release from inside her. she only found this one other instance besides bdsm play and that was long ago during the sexual act. Now it is happening here on the cross at times and the more intense the scene, the more likely it is to emerge.
she wonder if others played with, have found this and also if Dominants have found that They have Beasts inside Themselves which appear during those momentes as well?
buffy had hoped that the beast within her was a wolf as Some of her best and dearest Friends, are Wolves (meant in a most respectful and good way to say this)..... but buffy is not a wolf (dangit), she is a wildcat and it seem that the type of animal is not a choice, at least for her.
That was the other part of the question also..... do Tthose who find there is a 'beast' inside which comes out during scenes, find that Tthey have little, if any, control over what kind of beast emerges?
respectfully,
buffy, whose inquiring mind wish to know
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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 7:58:53 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Yes, it's often called "primal play."

And yes, many people find they associate with specific animals. Bears, wolves, horses, cats, etc.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 8:03:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		i used "subspace" as a search term, and limited my search to topics and subjects, and 13 threads were returned. Rather than post them all in here, i'm just telling you how to find them.

candystripper

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 8:04:15 AM   
plantlady64


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Status: offline 		Hello There,
I also am a submissive person. I do find I have an energy source within me that seems to exert itself when I play.
Mine is I guess a dog or wolf as I'm quite the bitch in heat.

My Master has named the beast he has inside himself Darth. He's been into S&M over 25 years. He does not fully allow his beast to come out in play with me yet as his beast enjoies torture tactics I'm not ready for.

I think we all have a label for the enery within that only comes out during the energy exchanges.
Sincerley,
sub suzanne

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 8:43:04 AM   
MistressFire70


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Status: offline 		There are some of us who find that their spirituality is wrapped up in and cannot be seperated from SM. This doesn't mean that there is no SM play without spirituality, however, it just means that the SM is a major component for the spirituality. My personal spirituality is a mix of eastern (energy), Native American (totem), pagan (altar and rituals with intent) and Christian (speaking in tongues).

In the more shamanistic (Native American) view of this spirituality, we'd label what you are feeling as a totem animal or power animal. My life totem is a cat, specifically an Ocelot. I also have a journey totem (which may or may not stay with me) of a Great Gray Owl. Currenly, my owl is the one who comes out as a result of spiritual SM or really intense sex. It sounds like you have a wild cat as a totem. Here are some links about totems:
http://www.witchscauldron.net/cauldron/animal.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/poweranimals.html
http://rap.midco.net/spiritualstew/animals.html

If you're interested in learning more about SM spirituality real time, consider going to one or more of the following events and follow the Spirituality Tracks. Some of the registrations aren't open yet, as the event recently happened and they are planning for 2006. I HIGHLY recommend Southwest Leather Conference. Go to any talks by Master Steve Sampson, Master Skip Chasey, SlaveMaster, slave kirk or slave robert.

http://www.togetherinleather.org/
http://www.southwestleather.org/
http://www.southplainsleatherfest.com/coming.html
http://www.masterslaveconference.org/workshops.html

Fire



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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 9:09:46 AM   
Prunesquallor


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Status: offline 		I thought for a moment you were talking about a metaphorical beast. Certainly, my sexual sadism feels like a beast, and when I was first urged to release it, I found it very difficult to do so. Even now, I take care that it is always tightly leashed.

It has enough freedom to enjoy itself but not enough so that it could ever take control.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 11:16:49 AM   
AbstractSavant


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quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper

i used "subspace" as a search term, and limited my search to topics and subjects, and 13 threads were returned. Rather than post them all in here, i'm just telling you how to find them.

candystripper


Subspace and the idea of primal play really aren't interchangeable like that.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:01:24 PM   
happypervert


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quote:

And yes, many people find they associate with specific animals. Bears, wolves, horses, cats, etc.

That's cute that everyone imagines they have a noble or savage beast within. I wonder why nobody ever finds their inner possum, skunk or squirrel?

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:04:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: happypervert
That's cute that everyone imagines they have a noble or savage beast within. I wonder why nobody ever finds their inner possum, skunk or squirrel?

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:06:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: plantlady64
My Master has named the beast he has inside himself Darth. He's been into S&M over 25 years. He does not fully allow his beast to come out in play with me yet as his beast enjoies torture tactics I'm not ready for.


Sidious? Maul, Vader? A no-joke Sith lord?

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:06:54 PM   
MsIncognito


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Status: offline 		Is this similar to 'furries' or am I off track? Admittedly this is something I'm not familiar with. Most times when I've heard of people talking about unleashing the beast within they mean it in a metaphorical sense.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Yes, it's often called "primal play."

And yes, many people find they associate with specific animals. Bears, wolves, horses, cats, etc.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:08:27 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: happypervert

That's cute that everyone imagines they have a noble or savage beast within. I wonder why nobody ever finds their inner possum, skunk or squirrel?

LOL I've teased my one partner who identifies strongly as a wolf by saying that I see him as more of a ferret :)

It depends on the person. Females identify more with deer, house cats, birds, bunnies and such.

I don't identify with any animalistic spirit, however I have a strong affinity for snakes and enjoy animal play :)

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:46:27 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		i think inside each of us is an incredible force, its very primal and pure and i say pure as in, non identifiable, its pure vast energy. i think sometimes when we touch on that, our belief systems cannot comprehend that its part of us and so we make an identification whether that be animalistic or whatever, we then mix our own thoughts with it and then that primal force takes on a personality, be that of a bear or wolf or some other entity.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 12:50:07 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: buffiyum

greetings,
one is not sure if this is a subject already tackled.... one has found that during intense bdsm play, there is a 'beast' which seeks release from inside her. she only found this one other instance besides bdsm play and that was long ago during the sexual act. Now it is happening here on the cross at times and the more intense the scene, the more likely it is to emerge.
she wonder if others played with, have found this and also if Dominants have found that They have Beasts inside Themselves which appear during those momentes as well?
buffy had hoped that the beast within her was a wolf as Some of her best and dearest Friends, are Wolves (meant in a most respectful and good way to say this)..... but buffy is not a wolf (dangit), she is a wildcat and it seem that the type of animal is not a choice, at least for her.
That was the other part of the question also..... do Tthose who find there is a 'beast' inside which comes out during scenes, find that Tthey have little, if any, control over what kind of beast emerges?
respectfully,
buffy, whose inquiring mind wish to know


well I can't say that I identify with a particular animal within my play. I can however be a bit intense... and very much enjoy the primal play. Not that it is better than other types or styles... just different, of course sensual play is fun too. I do find that when that beast within surfaces I get more images of clawing and ripping... biting.. and blood every where! I do not actually see myself... but except to see or have the imagery of clawed hands and sharp teeth. this comes particular apparent to me with I go in close for the kill and use no weapons but my ownself *G* biting, scratching, pinching, pressure points, kicking, squeezing man-handling in general. oh my how the Beast loves to direct and personal.



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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 7:49:05 PM   
buffiyum


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one is very grateful for all the responses on this subject.
one is not frighten by the beast inside she is bemused by its very existence, which came as somewhat of a surprise to her.
If one may say, it doesnot seem at all like subspace which she has identified as being quite different to this. Subspace for buffy is often like climbing a mountain, pausing at the top and flying from a dizzying height to a very sated landing, a state which can last for mere momentes or for much longer lengths of time or... subspace has sometimes been like an 'electric connection' to the One playing with her, wherein she can only hear Their Voice, she can only focus on Them in her mind, and the breathing is very deep and slow.
Those kind of 'subspace' times tend to be few and far between depending on many factors but the 'down' time for both types after is also very long and deep and the sleep, wonderful.
Those subspace times, both of them, also can have equal and opposite reaction in the form of sub drop, wherein the girl get all emotional, moody and cry a lot, etc. This can happen as far away as two days after the subspace occur.
These 'beast sightings'?? They nothing like that, at least for her. They seem to belong entierely on their own as a category within her mind.
she will go check out all the sites mention and ideas on google too, in the hope of understanding this intriguing thing.
In truth, if one were to choose to be something over another, buffy would have like to see emerge the wolf or even the eagle but ah well, cats are cool too.
respectfully,
buffy

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 7:57:40 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

Is this similar to 'furries' or am I off track? Admittedly this is something I'm not familiar with. Most times when I've heard of people talking about unleashing the beast within they mean it in a metaphorical sense.

Think of furries as a subset within "animal spirit connectivity"

To some it is metaphorical. To some it is a very real part of their personality. To some it is an entire orientation and perspective in life.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 8:00:48 PM   
Shadowsdream


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Status: offline 		Hello buffy!

I identify as an insatiable beast. Some cat like prowling caged beast of energy...each session at a play party antagonizing the beast with unrelenting energy that builds and builds...not an unpleasant sensation but one that leaves Me wanting long solitary moments as My eyes scan the room for fresh meat! As you may have seen ~~grin~~

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 9:05:21 PM   
LadyShoshin


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Status: offline 		I wish they had something like those up here in the great white north (Canada).

I am a Shaman's apprentice, energy working pagan with a smattering of celtic witch, I began BDSM life as a submissive. During play, it was all me, from my base chakra, pure sexual energy that was built to a crescendo and released in a sustained howl. When I finished playing I craved fruit or something sweet. I often did spirit journeying when I wasn't playing, and swam as a harbour seal, I never realized before how beautiful it is to be deep under the water where light almost disappears and look up to see the sunshine through the water.

As a Domme, depending on who I am playing with, if there are no boundaries to sexual expression, if the music is right, I feel the cat come out. I usually dance when I play, it is a natural thing for me. One of my totems is bob cat, but the one who surfaces during play is taller, sleeker and more muscled as well as more dangerous. As old and BBW as I am, people who watch me play when I go into cat mode remark about how hot the scene was or how sensual. When I leave a party after playing my body craves meat protein.

I have facilitated workshops at pagan festivals on finding your animal totem, it is a fascinating study.

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ORIGINAL: MistressFire70

There are some of us who find that their spirituality is wrapped up in and cannot be seperated from SM. This doesn't mean that there is no SM play without spirituality, however, it just means that the SM is a major component for the spirituality. My personal spirituality is a mix of eastern (energy), Native American (totem), pagan (altar and rituals with intent) and Christian (speaking in tongues).

In the more shamanistic (Native American) view of this spirituality, we'd label what you are feeling as a totem animal or power animal. My life totem is a cat, specifically an Ocelot. I also have a journey totem (which may or may not stay with me) of a Great Gray Owl. Currenly, my owl is the one who comes out as a result of spiritual SM or really intense sex. It sounds like you have a wild cat as a totem. Here are some links about totems:
http://www.witchscauldron.net/cauldron/animal.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/poweranimals.html
http://rap.midco.net/spiritualstew/animals.html

If you're interested in learning more about SM spirituality real time, consider going to one or more of the following events and follow the Spirituality Tracks. Some of the registrations aren't open yet, as the event recently happened and they are planning for 2006. I HIGHLY recommend Southwest Leather Conference. Go to any talks by Master Steve Sampson, Master Skip Chasey, SlaveMaster, slave kirk or slave robert.

http://www.togetherinleather.org/
http://www.southwestleather.org/
http://www.southplainsleatherfest.com/coming.html
http://www.masterslaveconference.org/workshops.html

Fire





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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 9:13:22 PM   
LadyShoshin


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ORIGINAL: happypervert
[That's cute that everyone imagines they have a noble or savage beast within. I wonder why nobody ever finds their inner possum, skunk or squirrel?


One of my totems is blue jay, the bird that squawks & shits, another is spider, one that comes in and out as needed is chipmunk.

They tend to show themselves outside of the BDSM realm, there is just something very unDommely about sitting atop your sub munching peanuts and hiding the shells in his ass.

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RE: Releasing the beast within - 11/30/2005 9:29:43 PM   
MistressYlwa


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Status: offline 		I am a wolf. Though have never associated it with the "beast" inside. I do have one. I do my best to keep her under control. She is a pure sadist and has no limits or controls. I have yet to meet one who would desire her presence.

I discovered her during a double domme session. Thankfully the other domme was aware of what was happening and able to control her. It was frightening, until it was explained to me what she was and where she came from.

I no longer fear her. But am not willing to allow her to run rampant on some poor, unsuspecting sub/slave. She will have her time.

Mistress Ylwa


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