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All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:38:15 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		or some such logic.  The boards, here and at other venues are swamped with the tabloid theatre of "American Politics".  One subject, in particular, caught my attention.  That is the legal effect of a Subpoena on the "average tax payer" as opposed to one of "privilege" eg: politican or eh, married to one.

The average tax payer, faces many potential penalties for ignoring a Subpoena.  In pretty much 99.99% of the cases, Mr. Average Tax Payer does not have the financial resources, either personal or business or tax payer paid, to motion a Court to eternity explaining why he/she should not be compelled to attend to give evidence.  Why does this not apply to our politicans?  Their spouses?  The law is suppose to be EQUAL for EVERYONE.  BLIND to social standing.  Obviously there is a great bias, or again, money begets money.

My humble opinion is that when it comes to the law, Subpoenas in particular, it is an even playing field.  There are no excuses, you show up.  Period.

Putting the political party line aside, what is your opinion?  Should the law remain BLIND to social/political/economic standing and retain the "men are equal" mentality, or.........is there a good reason to afford this preferential treatment to elected politicans?

(pardon in advance for any spelling errors.....man, I cannot see)
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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:41:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will avoid your covered jab, and simply suggest that sometimes it depends on the authority of those that issued such.  Sometimes they aren't worth the paper they are written on.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:42:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		With all due respect Sir, if you were a lesbian, I would be all over you.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:45:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		It has always been the case that Americans are equal up to the point of wealth and/or power.

This manifests in many, many places.  OJ Simpson would be in jail if he were not (previously) rich, for instance.


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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:50:15 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		No "covered jab" at all Thadius.......but from your "jab" I will take it that you obviously have a certain party in mind (grin), however, being a simple, lowly Canuck, we too have our politicans of persuasion, shall I say.

I was simply commenting on an issue, that while contraversal for years, seems to have gained some strength and news coverage, with our joint elections.

I have also, recently experienced this same scenario "real life"...which left me wondering.  I simply felt it may be an interesting topic......or maybe not.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:52:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		If they are created equal why do we have this thread?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2143536/tm.htm

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:56:24 PM   
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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:57:57 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		Someone just had to bring up penis size........yup, brokenmind...that would be you.  What do you want, all us girls to jump up and down waving our arms screaming SIZE MATTERS?? (thread drift).......oh stop the voices....the voices........

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 6:57:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sasseeNshy

or some such logic.  The boards, here and at other venues are swamped with the tabloid theatre of "American Politics".  One subject, in particular, caught my attention.  That is the legal effect of a Subpoena on the "average tax payer" as opposed to one of "privilege" eg: politican or eh, married to one.

The average tax payer, faces many potential penalties for ignoring a Subpoena.  In pretty much 99.99% of the cases, Mr. Average Tax Payer does not have the financial resources, either personal or business or tax payer paid, to motion a Court to eternity explaining why he/she should not be compelled to attend to give evidence.  Why does this not apply to our politicans?  Their spouses?  The law is suppose to be EQUAL for EVERYONE.  BLIND to social standing.  Obviously there is a great bias, or again, money begets money.

My humble opinion is that when it comes to the law, Subpoenas in particular, it is an even playing field.  There are no excuses, you show up.  Period.

Putting the political party line aside, what is your opinion?  Should the law remain BLIND to social/political/economic standing and retain the "men are equal" mentality, or.........is there a good reason to afford this preferential treatment to elected politicans?

(pardon in advance for any spelling errors.....man, I cannot see)


Unfortunately, it is a fact of life that people in positions of power, or people with huge resources at their disposal do not suffer with the law them way us folk in "the great unwashed" live our days.  Nothing will ever change that equation, and it probably is a truth to be found everywhere on the planet.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 7:03:06 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		I wholeheartedly agree with you......hence my point.  Why are us "little people" so to speak not screaming like hell for equal justice?  Why are we so passive? Almost dis-interested? 


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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 7:04:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sasseeNshy

Someone just had to bring up penis size........yup, brokenmind...that would be you.  What do you want, all us girls to jump up and down waving our arms screaming SIZE MATTERS?? (thread drift).......oh stop the voices....the voices........


Be gentle... I could be that voice in your head.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 7:09:02 PM   
Thadius


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ORIGINAL: sasseeNshy

I wholeheartedly agree with you......hence my point.  Why are us "little people" so to speak not screaming like hell for equal justice?  Why are we so passive? Almost dis-interested? 




Who says we are all passive, or quiet about it?  Some of us realize the only way to change such things is to get involved by electing those that believe the way we do, become part of the legal system, or get elected to office ourselves.

I will leave it at that without adding my own cynicism to the talk.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:09:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		all men created equal??? you do realize penis sizes vary right??? definately not equal...

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:10:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

all men created equal??? you do realize penis sizes vary right??? definately not equal...


sassee I had nuthin to do with this!

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:11:24 PM   
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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:29:14 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		or...........da cushion for da pushin......................OMG............my own thread drift.........well okay, sex is a much better topic then legalese.......grin...

Morning sex...........smell of frying eggs and bacon......toast popping up..and you just know it is gonna burn cause you aren't quite done yet..........lol..........

the voices, dayummit, the voices

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:30:16 PM   
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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:33:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are right, let's focus.

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/19/2008 8:38:13 PM   
sasseeNshy


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Status: offline 		I'm trying so hard to focus, but think I should seek answers in the health and safety board.......(the voices ya know)

PS.  Brokenmind........you are not helping...............just my humble opinion

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RE: All men created equal... - 9/20/2008 6:49:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Men are equal.  Women are superior!
 
 
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