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subs and careers - 11/30/2005 3:38:54 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE? How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve? Do any of you have issue's with these things in your D/s relationships?

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 4:47:34 PM   
MrDiscipline44


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Status: offline 		Yes, I feel a slave having a career outside the home hinders serving in a 24/7 TPE. Reguardless of whatever good feelings it may have on the slave, the slaves first "duty" is to serve her Master in whatever way he so desires and they have agreed to.
My sudmissive changes hats by having a set amount of "decompression" time after she returns home in order to re-align her thoughts to a submissive nature and vent anything that has happened in the day.
My submissive and I do have issues in our relationship about her career and how it effects my home. But then, my submissive has a very different type of career and relationship with her boss.

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 5:36:55 PM   
SirSix72


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Status: offline 		Greetings,

Maybe the missing statement here is that most subs/slaves that I know are in a powerful position in their professional lives. Not to mention I have said this a dozen times that if you show them you are weak in any way they will eat you for lunch. My slave is a nurse by profession and I dont see how any sub/slave's professional lives can affect me Mastering them in anyway shape form or fashion. Who do they answer to regardless of their professional life.....???? Me of course and if they have to go some where on business then they should be allowed to take care of the real life issues at work so that we may all live comfortably. Lets look at the real life issues here folks. We have to live before we can attain any type of personal lives together.

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 5:47:40 PM   
Wolf1020


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Status: offline 		No sub at the moment but am considering one at the moment. Anyway, to me personally my sub have a job wouldn't matter to me at all, many subs have a professional career, heck many which require them to be assertive. On top of that unless one has a damn good paying job or wins the lottery in todays world (at least in much of the US) it's damn near impossible to live comfertably on one income coming into a household. Possible sure, but much harder for many families.

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 6:11:16 PM   
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How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve?


Found your thread fyreredsub

i usually rely on Master to change my hat for me, its very hard for me to switch off work and thinking about it. Work is a part of life, i dont think it takes anything from the M/s dynamics, but perhaps it means some refocusing time is required when work is done.
I dont have an issue with a slave/sub working outside of their Masters/Mistress home, after all its contributing to His/Her Kingdom ..and thats what a slaves supposed to do *grin*

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Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE?


Sorry im responding to this part too. i think Master is proud of what i have tried to accomplish in my life through my work.

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 6:16:41 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		well then it would seem(as usual) that there are varying opinions. my career is an extension of me.I dont know if i would be able to give up my work,perhaps change the line of it somewhat...but i do enjoy what i do and it brings a good bit more of earnings into the equation,lol.(not that this is a factor at the moment). i was just curious about other D/s dynamics and if it is a hinderance or a blessing.
thank you all for your responses

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 6:19:49 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		thank you slavejali. i would hope that a master would be proud of what i have accomplished and see this as future potential for what things he would hope for in regards to the many things i am capable of doing and learning under his tutelage.
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

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How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve?


Found your thread fyreredsub

i usually rely on Master to change my hat for me, its very hard for me to switch off work and thinking about it. Work is a part of life, i dont think it takes anything from the M/s dynamics, but perhaps it means some refocusing time is required when work is done.
I dont have an issue with a slave/sub working outside of their Masters/Mistress home, after all its contributing to His/Her Kingdom ..and thats what a slaves supposed to do *grin*

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Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE?


Sorry im responding to this part too. i think Master is proud of what i have tried to accomplish in my life through my work.



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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 6:23:58 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		correct me if i'm wrong Master Six but isn't a slave supposed to be a 'strong' woman?

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Greetings,

Maybe the missing statement here is that most subs/slaves that I know are in a powerful position in their professional lives. Not to mention I have said this a dozen times that if you show them you are weak in any way they will eat you for lunch. My slave is a nurse by profession and I dont see how any sub/slave's professional lives can affect me Mastering them in anyway shape form or fashion. Who do they answer to regardless of their professional life.....???? Me of course and if they have to go some where on business then they should be allowed to take care of the real life issues at work so that we may all live comfortably. Lets look at the real life issues here folks. We have to live before we can attain any type of personal lives together.

Master Six



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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 8:05:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		For me it's not an issue. For many it is- because they see submissive as some "set of actions" and somehow behaving as a responsible adult doesn't fall into that.

I think if you see working as bringing and developing resources to bring to the relationship, whether it's just a paycheck or more, and you're doing what he wants, then you're good.

Submissive isn't about the action, it's about the dynamic.

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 8:14:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE?

The career itself, not generally except in two cases. One, is meeting someone from online... odds are that anyone you meet online is going to live someplace else which means somebody is going to have to move and somebody is going to have to give up a career unless they can bring it with them... that can be an issue and even a deal breaker for some... its another reason looking for a submissive or a dominant online can really just suck. The other case is one for me personally, that being my eventual goal is to retire very early and both of us stay at home and enjoy it! It would kinda be bad for me to be sitting at home alone while my slave is off enjoying her career... I hate gardening alone and who am I gonna spank for lunch?

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How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve?

I dunno, something about looking her straight in the eye as you grab a fist full of hair, pulling her close and and whispering just two words in her ear "strip slave" kinda seems to snap a lass into focus. Can't imagine why that is...

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 8:34:29 PM   
Belladonna82


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Status: offline 		Master always says a sub/slave is a very strong woman and when a Master can mold her that makes him even stronger since normaly a sub/slave will eat a weak man for lunch.The sub/slaves must be strong because its harder to give up all control then it is to take control in my opinion. Fyreredsub....you know me off of here...and i'll tell you this much....from our conversations...you are a great submissive/slave and you have a heart of gold...it will just take a strong man to show you what i already see :) love ya girl!

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 9:10:03 PM   
FangsNfeet


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Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE? How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve? Do any of you have issue's with these things in your D/s relationships?


My submissive having a job dose not hender our relationship. It prevents her from doing all the chors when it comes to cooking, cleaning, walking the dog, and laundry but we have it worked out to make more affectionate time together. Anyhow, her working adds more money to the house hold. What's hers is ours and what's mine is mine.

Our jobs are very interesting though. Pet is a demanding bill collector for a company. At her job, she's required to be somewhat mean and hasseling. I on the other hand am doing mostly customer service in medical retail and pharmacuticals where I'm required to be caring, understanding, polite, curtious, helpfull, and other kindfull actions needed to best help the customer and make a sale to keep them doing business with me.

Anyways, It's nice coming home where we can be ourselves as we are tired of being opposites at work all day long. After coming home from that, we both get along great.

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 9:53:02 PM   
SirSix72


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Status: offline 		Yes Doll,

In my opinon a slave is supposed to be a strong woman. It takes a very strong woman to bend to a Master's will. But to have a great paying job is a benifit for the household in my opinon. I would rather help with some laundry and have some extra income then be a lazy jerk and expect you to do it for me when I have two hands and feet to help out. These SELF PROFESSED Doms are looking for someone to coddle them like their mothers would amazes me. Real life means two or more help out with daily chores. Im still a Master but one of your heart and mind, not needing someone to replace my mother to tote me in this world by doing my laundry or my dishes :) I think that if someone can't handle a sucessful woman then maybe they shouldn't dare try a Dominate her.

Master Six

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RE: subs and careers - 11/30/2005 11:52:19 PM   
Wolf1020


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Our jobs are very interesting though. Pet is a demanding bill collector for a company. At her job, she's required to be somewhat mean and hasseling. I on the other hand am doing mostly customer service in medical retail and pharmacuticals where I'm required to be caring, understanding, polite, curtious, helpfull, and other kindfull actions needed to best help the customer and make a sale to keep them doing business with me.

I did phone sales for awhile...yes I was an evil telemarketer I hated it, would never do it agian lol. My boss who was in charge of training me told us he did customer service for a long time and couldn't take the abuse anymore, his breaking point as when someone calling in actually made him cry lol. But call random people in the phone book and ask them what they would do with a million dollars. Some answers are scary. My top three weirdist ones? 1- Send her kids to military school, 2- help build the church of satan to greater hights, 3- make a million paper airplanes and drive down the road launching them (no...sad as it is I am not lying lol) and countless spread the word of the lord, that and build a house are right up there as the msot common. If you are ever alone one evening are board dial random numbers, and be convincing ask them what theyed do with a million dollars, you will be amazed at the freaks this planet harbors.

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RE: subs and careers - 12/1/2005 3:07:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

For me it's not an issue. For many it is- because they see submissive as some "set of actions" and somehow behaving as a responsible adult doesn't fall into that.

I think if you see working as bringing and developing resources to bring to the relationship, whether it's just a paycheck or more, and you're doing what he wants, then you're good.

Submissive isn't about the action, it's about the dynamic.


..it would seem, my situation causes to much pride in me,for what i have accomplished and overcome.........ie i think it boils down to i am too strong willed at this point - i was doing this before a Master came into my life and i honestly dont see why it should change---------if i can learn to swap hats successfuly or have down time as Mr.Discipline suggests .........
.i can understand why a Master would have issue with it and would be willing to change my area somewhat but i am damn good at what i do.........
and thats not too much pride,thats a success rate and past clients that still keep in touch. i have made a difference in their lives for the better.

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RE: subs and careers - 12/1/2005 3:22:27 AM   
fyreredsub


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ORIGINAL: Padriag


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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE?

The career itself, not generally except in two cases. One, is meeting someone from online... odds are that anyone you meet online is going to live someplace else which means somebody is going to have to move and somebody is going to have to give up a career unless they can bring it with them... that can be an issue and even a deal breaker for some... its another reason looking for a submissive or a dominant online can really just suck. The other case is one for me personally, that being my eventual goal is to retire very early and both of us stay at home and enjoy it! It would kinda be bad for me to be sitting at home alone while my slave is off enjoying her career... I hate gardening alone and who am I gonna spank for lunch?

quote:

How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve?

I dunno, something about looking her straight in the eye as you grab a fist full of hair, pulling her close and and whispering just two words in her ear "strip slave" kinda seems to snap a lass into focus. Can't imagine why that is...


methinks it cause fingers getting caught up in long red curls can be a verrrrrrrrrry good thing

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RE: subs and careers - 12/1/2005 3:25:23 AM   
fyreredsub


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ORIGINAL: SirSix72

Yes Doll,

In my opinon a slave is supposed to be a strong woman. It takes a very strong woman to bend to a Master's will. But to have a great paying job is a benifit for the household in my opinon. I would rather help with some laundry and have some extra income then be a lazy jerk and expect you to do it for me when I have two hands and feet to help out. These SELF PROFESSED Doms are looking for someone to coddle them like their mothers would amazes me. Real life means two or more help out with daily chores. Im still a Master but one of your heart and mind, not needing someone to replace my mother to tote me in this world by doing my laundry or my dishes :) I think that if someone can't handle a sucessful woman then maybe they shouldn't dare try a Dominate her.

Master Six


Thank you for clarifiing that for me Master Six
aye strong willed i am.............

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RE: subs and careers - 12/1/2005 3:32:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

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Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE? How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve? Do any of you have issue's with these things in your D/s relationships?


My submissive having a job dose not hender our relationship. It prevents her from doing all the chors when it comes to cooking, cleaning, walking the dog, and laundry but we have it worked out to make more affectionate time together. Anyhow, her working adds more money to the house hold. What's hers is ours and what's mine is mine.

Our jobs are very interesting though. Pet is a demanding bill collector for a company. At her job, she's required to be somewhat mean and hasseling. I on the other hand am doing mostly customer service in medical retail and pharmacuticals where I'm required to be caring, understanding, polite, curtious, helpfull, and other kindfull actions needed to best help the customer and make a sale to keep them doing business with me.

Anyways, It's nice coming home where we can be ourselves as we are tired of being opposites at work all day long. After coming home from that, we both get along great.


thank you for sharing fangs.it gives a girl hope, if a couple can both do opposite their natures,well, indeed then....just one should be easier.

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RE: subs and careers - 12/1/2005 3:35:32 AM   
fyreredsub


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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

Master always says a sub/slave is a very strong woman and when a Master can mold her that makes him even stronger since normaly a sub/slave will eat a weak man for lunch.The sub/slaves must be strong because its harder to give up all control then it is to take control in my opinion. Fyreredsub....you know me off of here...and i'll tell you this much....from our conversations...you are a great submissive/slave and you have a heart of gold...it will just take a strong man to show you what i already see :) love ya girl!


you are the BEST bella lova ya..thanks

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RE: subs and careers - 12/1/2005 3:42:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

Do any of you Master/Doms/Dommes feel that your sub/slave having an enriching career,one that gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment, is a hinderance to their serving in a 24/7 TPE? How does your sub/slave change hats, so to speak when, they got off work and get home to serve? Do any of you have issue's with these things in your D/s relationships?


My having a career is going to be a huge part of my 24/7 TPE relationship with my Sir. I don't have one now. I have a job I hate and that is going no where. I'm also greatly lacking in the education department. My Sir plans to send me to school and use his knowledge to prepare me to get a career that will keep me excited and well paid.

It is very important to him that I become a self-sufficent woman who is capable of taking care of myself. He wants me with him because it's my choice and not because I need someone to help support me. To us that makes my submission much more meaningful.

As far as changing hats once I get home I have full confindence that he will be able to get me in the head space he wants me to be in.


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