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CelticPrince -> D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:27:21 PM)

we are a homogenious mix here with our individual kinks and chemistry criteria in search of "the match" that will make us viable D/s couple. We also come from a wide range of religious backgrounds that may or may not have been kept current. The mix is well represented here and sometimes mentioned in profiles and sometimes not. There are Wiccans, Methodist,Catholics, Jewish, Pres, and Baptists and a few others.

Question: How important is religion when determining a potential match for yourself?

CP




Lockit -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:33:54 PM)

I feel it is important in some mixes and not so important in others.  I have very strong feelings about some things and I am not changing how I feel.  Been there... know what's there and not going there again.  If someone else wishes to go there... smile... go... enjoy, just don't expect me to come along.  I will respect your's if you will respect mine.  If you need a partner that shares the same... then it is very important and good for you to know that before you get in too deep.  Some religions expect/require/advise that you not be unequally yoked so to speak.  That is sound advice, but I think it depends on the people, the belief systems, respect and acceptance, etc.

My creed is love... not too many have a problem with that one. lol 




petitespitfire64 -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:38:35 PM)

I find it disturbing that niether of my Masters believes that a "God" exists, but it certainly doesn't make me have less respect for them or want to be with them any less. I practice my own spirituality and leave them to thiers.




leadership527 -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:42:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
Question: How important is religion when determining a potential match for yourself?

Not at all.  I am fairly non-spiritual.  That being said, I recognize that as a valid slice of the human existence and I'd generally think of it as neutral to positive if someone had a healthy, beneficial spiritual existence.  Predictably though, anyone who felt that they were compelled to impart those same blessings on me I would consider an inappropriate selection.




Roselaure -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:44:46 PM)

The only thing that would give me a problem would be if my partner were very religious and tried to make me believe as he did.  Otherwise I can accept his belief if he can accept my lack thereof.




KatyLied -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:46:45 PM)

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Question: How important is religion when determining a potential match for yourself?


It's not important to me.  Unless it's something a potential match felt he had to dominate me into doing.  At that point he'd see the "hard limit" sign.




littlewonder -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:47:46 PM)

While religion isn't important to me, spirituality is. We have to share a spiritual connection. Our belief system has to be very similar so that our morals, values and ethics are in line with one another.

If we don't share in that then we wouldn't be compatible along any lines whatsoever.




IvyMorgan -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:54:24 PM)

Today was harvest festival at my local church.  Being a)traditional and b)rural, we do harvest in a very enthusiastic way.  As a church festival goes, it tends to be quite pagan in overtones, with a very heavy slant towards Tanak references, especially Deuteronomy 26 and traditional Jewish practices.

So, I've spent the day marvelling about how we can smoosh it all together quite well, and likening Christianity to the Borg.  Resistance being futile, for your religious practices will be assimilated and rebranded...

But, during the sermon this evening (evensong, as a service, rocks!) the idea of religious compatibility wandered into my head.  I am toying with the idea of thinking about pursuing the possibility of a relationship with someone.  (Yeah, very non committed, seed type phase right now)  But, I know they do not share my religious views.  I'm fine with this.  I don't believe in pushing my religion on other people (but my love of poetry in hebrew is a whole other matter, if only because of the general level of geeky excitement; I just bombard you with it until you relent, war of attrition and boy golly, you will submit to the enthusiasm like a high school pep rally).  We do share similar spiritual views (my religion and my spirituality being separate things, for the most part).  I guess I was just wondering, idly, as I listened to how covenants aren't contracts (erm, no) in a sermon where this would mean we ended up.

I guess religion itself, either orientation or practice, isn't important, but acceptane of mine is.  (Evangelical Christians, therefore, need not apply *smiles*)




Alexander48 -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 1:57:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

While religion isn't important to me, spirituality is. We have to share a spiritual connection. Our belief system has to be very similar so that our morals, values and ethics are in line with one another.

If we don't share in that then we wouldn't be compatible along any lines whatsoever.



Well said littlewonder.
Your words express my feelings on this subject exactly!

Best Wishes,
   Alexander




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 2:07:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Question: How important is religion when determining a potential match for yourself?

CP


Religion is irrelevant, as I am of a religious path that is so rare that I -literally- know every single practitioner worldwide, and have trained a third of them. OTOH, this pretty much -requires- that the people who are going to interact with me for an extended period of time have an open mind and are willing to accept the eccentricities that are part and parcel of my path. If they can't do that, there is no hope for them in our household. I personally think that it is important to be spiritually connected, but I don't really feel any pressure to require them to express that connection in any particular way.

Our poly family and House itself is very diverse. Aside from my own path (Illuminance Fellowship), which has 3 practitioners in the House, we have a classic Taoist, a pagan, two agnostics, a non-denominational Christian, a Voudoun, a Catholic, and a semantic divinist.

Calla Firestorm




DarkSteven -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 2:25:27 PM)

Very important if we raise children together.  Not very relevant otherwise.




ThundersCry -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 2:33:52 PM)

They are either God loving...Christ exalting...people...
 
Or we have very little in common...period.
 
 




azropedntied -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:29:20 PM)

What others believe or not is not my concern until they try and push what they believe upon me or others .Spirituality i can more agree with yet i shall not say this is the only way .I seek answers to the questions and so far i still have way more questions than answers , so i continue .
How important is it all ? religion  , spirituality , a higher power , whatever ,and etc . I think if you have found what works for you  thats awesome , i think if you do nothing well that just puzzles me as i find there are too many questions .If your on a path  seek and  soak in everything you can , learn about everything you can .the metallica song  holier that thou comes to mind .the line from the song arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand and judge not yet ye be judged yourself  fit some sometimes .I just try and be the best me i can be .In the end we are free to choose , free to learn , i would just hope for another that shares that explore ideal.




AquaticSub -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:31:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Question: How important is religion when determining a potential match for yourself?



For me, very. My religion partially defines the ebb and flow of my life now so the other person needs to be able to flow with that for us both to be happy.

Doesn't mean it will be important, or should be, for everyone else though.




leakylee -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:31:33 PM)

spiritual compatiblity is incredibly important. religion not so much. as long as the open mindedness is there, and i am not being spoon fed another's domga. i am fine. my whole mess is so quirky i confuse myself somedays.

lee




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:40:33 PM)

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writerly808 -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:48:55 PM)

quote:

Question: How important is religion when determining a potential match for yourself?


Not very. Since I consider myself to be somewhere between "unbaptized non-denomination non-practicing Christian" and "pagan/occultist", whatever religion or lack thereof my potential partner has really doesn't matter to me. I'm open-minded enough to accept pretty much anything...barring extremism or evangelizing. :P

I'm honestly more concerned with whether I can hold intelligent conversations with him, on pretty much whatever comes to mind, and that he seriously wouldn't mind an artistic, easily distracted, and very "chaotically organized" girl. ;)




lizcgirl -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:55:46 PM)

I'm a pagan. I have been Catholic, Methodist, Pentecostal, non denominational Christian. I chose my religion based on my personal search and it wasn't made out of ignorance. I believe in to each their own, but I would not be with some one who tried to tell me my beliefs were 'wrong', 'satanic', or try to convert me. Been there, done that, not going back. My Master now is Atheist, which I don't understand but I don't preach to Him. I expect the same respect in return. So as long as they understood that I'm not a lost lamb they need to save, it wouldn't bother me. Hell, my kids go to church twice a week because they choose to- I will not force any religion on them or anyone else.




CelticPrince -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 4:56:57 PM)

LA,

I have not been around much but it has been a long time since I have seen one of your famous lists.
Thanks

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: D/s and Religion (9/21/2008 5:00:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

I feel it is important in some mixes and not so important in others.  I have very strong feelings about some things and I am not changing how I feel.  Been there... know what's there and not going there again.  If someone else wishes to go there... smile... go... enjoy, just don't expect me to come along.  I will respect your's if you will respect mine.  If you need a partner that shares the same... then it is very important and good for you to know that before you get in too deep.  Some religions expect/require/advise that you not be unequally yoked so to speak.  That is sound advice, but I think it depends on the people, the belief systems, respect and acceptance, etc.

My creed is love... not too many have a problem with that one. lol 


Lockit,

I agree with your thoughts, but how would you meld the differences?

CP




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