Thadius
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Thadius,
Responsible? That's a bit strong. Dropped the ball? Yes on the first two (the third was people essentially playing the lottery without doing their homework).
You know better than the reframing of your second paragraph, but I'll answer anyway. Laugh if you will. McCain has been singing the same tune for years, with little to show for it except that he likes to shoot from the hip--as does Bush. Yes, I think sending someone with intelligence and the ability to see the broader picture is a much better idea. I can't imagine how you see McCain as jumping at the bit to debate. Obama certainly hasn't rebuked him. And certainly McCain knew Obama wouldn't go along with this silly trick. Laugh if it pleases you.
The election is close. Nothing will set aside partisan rhetoric, and to pretend otherwise invokes only sad, bitter laughter.
We weren't suddenly attacked by the financial markets. This has been building and building and building. People have been losing homes for two years. McCain said we shouldn't get involved. Obama proposed a plan to help. A day later, McCain said we should help. McCain until very recently said we should stay out of the markets. Then he thinks firing the SEC chairman is the answer to years of lax oversight (who'd have thought people might take advantage of that?). Now he thinks we should focus on the sudden "crisis."
If you want a laugh, start there.
Tim
Tim,
I will start with the issue you bring up. How about looking at reform bills put forward in 2003, 2005, and 2007? All addressing the insanity of making bad loans and cooking the books by certain institutions so that management could get their bonuses. All 3 either filibustered or forced to be sent to committee with the threat of filibuster. Each time the opposition said those reforms would unfairly target the poor and minorities, while stuffing their pockets with cash from those people that the reforms would affect. You are absolutely correct this problem didn't just come out of nowhere, and there are folks that have been trying to bring attention to it for years. It just seems easier for some to suggest that folks have been silent about it, instead of admitting that they took part in muzzling that message.
Now to the debate issue. From what I have read over the last many months, the McCain campaign offered 10 different townhall debates since June, all of which were declined by Obama. Various Veteran's groups have invited both candidates to debates and townhall meetings, and each and every one was declined by Obama because of scheduling (his Hawaii vacation was one of those more important things). Even when those independant groups offered to work the debates into a timeframe that fit better with his schedule, he declined. I have posted links to this very issue a few times. I could even point to the primaries when Hillary was asking for debates, and after realizing they were hurting his numbers he declined more of them.
Now a serious question. What harm would come of putting the debate off a day or three? Hell, Obama has nothing planned for the next 2 days anyways except being in debate prep. Isn't this legislation the most important thing facing the American people right now, and also have the most potential burden for the near future?
Sure the cynics and partisans will do what they do. They will spin all of this to fit which ever way does them the most good. Some folks seem to be getting better at dividing the blame from the executive and the legislative branches, when both are equally responsible. It's nothing new, it happened during the '90s, all of the good was because of Clinton, all of the bad was the fault of congress. Now they are attempting to spin it the other way around, all of the bad is the fault of Bush and the first 6 years of his presidency, and the last 2 years congress is blameless (even though their popularity ratings are the lowest ever, lower than the president's, and got this low since the change of power).
Funny how that works. So yes I am laughing. I am also scratching my head at how the hell some folks rationalize the hypocrisy they put forth in these sort of comparisons.
I wish you well,
Thadius
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