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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 2:55:31 PM   
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Hank the blogger isn't good enough for you...



      No.  He isn't.  I want a lot more credible sources looking into this.

     Do remember that Drudge was a nobody blogger once too, though.
I guess my attempt at sarcasm got lost in the translation....

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 3:54:41 PM   
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I'm seeing no credible, supported coverage. And it's hardly plausible on its face.

Not buying it.


         Agreed that we have a single source of undetermined reliability on this.  I'm hoping it turns out to be crap, or at worst, some soon to be unemployed staff people with a serious case of rectal cranial inversion.

        Going back to Philosophy's 'Deal Breaker' thread, this kind of activity would change my whole outlook on the race.

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 4:45:56 PM   
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I'm seeing no credible, supported coverage. And it's hardly plausible on its face.

Not buying it.


        Agreed that we have a single source of undetermined reliability on this.  I'm hoping it turns out to be crap, or at worst, some soon to be unemployed staff people with a serious case of rectal cranial inversion.

       Going back to Philosophy's 'Deal Breaker' thread, this kind of activity would change my whole outlook on the race.

Silencing Critics Using the Barack Obama Method

The One's "truth squad" is not the first time his suppression tactics have been discussed.


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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 4:51:47 PM   
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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 4:53:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		        Here, at least, is a story on this from a different source.  They are carrying forward from the initial KMOV news report, and have a couple new things to say.

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080927/BLOGS09/80927018

       The standard is not whether they are actually prosecuting.  What needs to be answered is whether, as seemed to be the case in the interview with the female prosecutor, public employees are dictating what the discussion shall be about, under color of authority.

     

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 4:59:52 PM   
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These are the facts, Obama's campaign is vigorously opposing GOP attack tactics. The GOP doesn't like not being able to lie about him and are complaining. This includes the Governor of Missouri issuing a press release through his, publicly funded and legally required to be non partisan, office.

It seems that the only wrong doing so far is by Governor Blunt.

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 5:10:09 PM   
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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 5:18:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have no problem with the idea of informing someone that you will not tolerate lies.  I have had to do that in my past business dealings.  I do have a problem if the tactic is used to call into question everything that is said that you don't like.

Often, the threat of a court date will make people recant even true negative statements.  If that is the desired result then its no worse than a lie told by the other side.  So far, I see evidence of one but not the other. 

I also notice that there seem to be no newsworthy lawsuits between the two campaigns so I guess all the "Republican scum" in the McCain campaign have been spot on with any criticisms they have made of his record.  Damn those evil Republicans for using truth when they can get away with it.  Of course, don't worry that you won't be able to complain about dirty lies.  The bloggers and tv news will tell the lies for them. 

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 5:19:26 PM   
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And still a blog


      (Assuming you were replying to my last post)


      Yes.  But the blog, on a newspaper's website, of an investigative reporter who seemed to have gotten the same talking points email Ken was working from.

      I really hope this just costs a city attorney her job for being stupid on camera (BTW, KMOV is a CBS affiliate, not Fox as some might assume).

       What I'm finding in the blogs I'm not linking to, is that nobody has been available for further comment.

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 5:44:54 PM   
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It seems that the only wrong doing so far is by Governor Blunt.


       Is that your story, Ken?  Are you sticking to it?  Wouldn't the same standard apply to the interview conducted in what looked like the city attorney's office when she stated "Obama is a Christian, and will only raise taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year?"  Wouldn't that standard of non-partisanship apply even more stringently there?

     

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 5:53:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Reading this thread I am reminded a question I always ask myself, why do liberal defenders always respond to questions of corruption, slight of hand, bending the truth, and supposed dirty campaigning with "Yeah, well the Republicans do it too and/or  do it worse"?



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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/28/2008 6:10:24 PM   
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Reading this thread I am reminded a question I always ask myself, why do liberal defenders always respond to questions of corruption, slight of hand, bending the truth, and supposed dirty campaigning with "Yeah, well the Republicans do it too and/or  do it worse"?



Because they can....ain't it a bitch!!!!!

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/29/2008 5:27:13 AM   
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Reading this thread I am reminded a question I always ask myself, why do liberal defenders always respond to questions of corruption, slight of hand, bending the truth, and supposed dirty campaigning with "Yeah, well the Republicans do it too and/or  do it worse"?

It is easier to point out the splinter in someone else's eye than the railroad tie in your own.  Both sides claim that the other side is corrupt.  Both sides are correct.  Both sides claim that they are for the people.  Both sides are lying through their false teeth.

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/29/2008 5:49:25 AM   
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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/29/2008 7:20:20 AM   
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Reading this thread I am reminded a question I always ask myself, why do liberal defenders always respond to questions of corruption, slight of hand, bending the truth, and supposed dirty campaigning with "Yeah, well the Republicans do it too and/or  do it worse"?





I don't know, but my guess is because the so-called questions of corruption against Obama that people keep posting are invariably rumors and unsubstantiated allegations.  I have yet to see anything credible here.

But this is an issue of free speech right?

So, that being the case, why aren't conservatives complaining of McCain's strong-arming the press?  Since he nominated Palin he has refused to answer legitimate questions, refused to participate in interviews with those he has deemed critical of him, and, in general tried to bully the media.  This man is running for President of us all, not just of the Republican Party.  Doesn't that tend to limit free speech by intimidating the media?

He's beginning to use the same tactics Bush used in '04.  Remember Democrats being refused admittance to his campaign events.  Remember the "loyalty oath" the RNC required to be signed before admittance?  A loyalty oath, for God's sake.  How much more totalitarian and less respective of free speech could you be?  Yet, the same people whining about this non-issue were strangely silent then.  I mean, this was a sitting United States President who was allowed to restrict access to hearing his views based on party affiliation.

So why is it not legitimate to say the Republicans do it too, and worse?  Especially when these abuses by the Republican Party were widely reported by mainstream media sources and we're here debating a topic authenticated by the respected journalism of soon-to-be-famous Hank the blogger. 

      

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RE: Obama campaign threatning legal action against critics - 9/29/2008 3:33:56 PM   
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The author of the straight talk express would never do such a thing.......would he?


Well, as Rove and Bush liked to tell us, McCain had a tough time during the war, and it's understandable if he's 'Not Quite Right' in the head -- And THAT was 8 years ago!



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RE: Obama campaign threatening legal action against cri... - 9/29/2008 4:19:56 PM   
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The introduction of anyone representing the law enforcement of a community of any size in this fashion has more than a smell of impropriety. The tactic, no matter who dreamed it up or approved it, is unethical. It is something called a "show of force." We show up off the coast of a Nation that is "behaving" in a manner not to our liking with a Carrier Group and tell them we want it to stop. We didn't say we were going to attack them but you sure as hell know they are worried about it. The intimidation usually gets us our way. This is huge. Heads need to roll.

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RE: Obama campaign threatening legal action against cri... - 9/29/2008 7:46:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		        The story is still living in blogland, but has made it as high as the ABC site.  They seem to be running off the same lame talking point about the Governor responding on official stationary.  Apparently still missing how that line of attack rebounds... 

      Gonna have to wait and see, I guess.

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RE: Obama campaign threatening legal action against cri... - 9/29/2008 8:59:22 PM   
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       The story is still living in blogland, but has made it as high as the ABC site.  They seem to be running off the same lame talking point about the Governor responding on official stationary.  Apparently still missing how that line of attack rebounds... 

     Gonna have to wait and see, I guess.

Too bad you don't see the legal difference between giving an interview and a sitting governor using his official office for partisan purposes.

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RE: Obama campaign threatening legal action against cri... - 9/29/2008 10:40:33 PM   
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Too bad you don't see the legal difference between giving an interview and a sitting governor using his official office for partisan purposes.



           You have it quite backwards, Ken.  Let's see them prove the Gov. broke the law.  He was merely expressing his outrage.  Elected officials get the bully pulpit, and a hell of a lot of slack.  A public EMPLOYEE, on the other hand, particularly a sworn officer of the court, gets no such wiggle room.

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