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Opinons? - 9/27/2008 11:01:17 PM   
gisa


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Status: offline 		This evening, I received a response to my profile from LordSuessMD, and with his permission to quote him,

"unfortunately the psychology of a Dominant Male is the opposite of the psychology of a Monogamous male, so any who claims to be hasn't discovered Himself, or isn't Dominant really.  The two psychologies are opposite....Seuss but I wish you well on your search"  

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RE: Opinons? - 9/27/2008 11:17:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh no, more One Twue Way stuff.

Frankly, I've met D types that are clearly monogamous and excellent Masters to those who serve Them. I've met non-monogamous (poly) guys that have no interest in WIITWD.

Takes all kinds.


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RE: Opinons? - 9/27/2008 11:18:04 PM   
softpjOS


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Status: offline 		perhaps he should post his permission here, otherwise the thread is going bye bye very soon

as for his thought.....they are exactly that.. his thoughts and not those of every dom out there. 

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RE: Opinons? - 9/27/2008 11:19:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		HUH?  Does this mean that a dominant male cannot be monogomous and if he is that he hasn't discovered himself and isn't really dominant?  If so... does this also include femdom's or are they the opposite of real dominance somehow?  And why is it unfortunate that the dominant male and mono male psychology are opposite?  Oh do... please explain...

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RE: Opinons? - 9/27/2008 11:32:10 PM   
sravaka


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Status: offline 		I've heard this kind of thing quite often too.  And in an even broader formulation:

me:  you are poly?
guy:  i don't use that term.
me:  what term do you prefer?
guy:  male

<eyeroll>





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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 12:54:06 AM   
masterforRT


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Status: offline 		Do I hear that I can't be monogamous and a Master/Dom?

That's news to me, because I HAVE BEEN the past 9+ years!

And if the day comes that I'm not, not only will she know, but she'll also be a part of it!

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 3:09:46 AM   
Focus50


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quote:

ORIGINAL: gisa

This evening, I received a response to my profile from LordSuessMD, and with his permission to quote him,

"unfortunately the psychology of a Dominant Male is the opposite of the psychology of a Monogamous male, so any who claims to be hasn't discovered Himself, or isn't Dominant really.  The two psychologies are opposite....Seuss but I wish you well on your search"  

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Welcome to the Forums... :-)
 
Surely the arrogant arse had an equivalent definition for those who might otherwise be attracted to a dominant male; a female submissive, for eg?
 
Me, I think the good "Lord" is another example of the cerebral types who wander into BDSM sites in the mistaken belief that "dominant" equates to superior or elite.  And maybe the "psychology" he speaks of better fits an alpha rather than a dominant, which can be two very different beasts....
 
Focus.

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 5:38:30 AM   
Manawyddan


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ORIGINAL: Usako
I wonder why he "gave you permission" to post that. Why not post it himself? Is he not "domly" enough to face the masses with his asinine ideals?


No, this is reasonable. I consider it rude for people to post from personal e-mails without permission.

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 5:42:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		His thoughts or his excuse for cheating?

The Man is dominant and is monogamous. He was monogamous in all of his relationships. He understands that there is only so many hours in a day and that the less you devote to any one relationship, the weaker that relationship is. Which is why he frequently drives six hours round trip in a day in order to spend time with his oldest and her family.

The more important people in your life, the more your time has to be spread around.

And for those who are not poly but constantly on the hunt for someone new, there's very little time spent nurturing the so called important relationships.

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:03:34 AM   
LordSeussMD


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Status: offline 		Yes, this is My opinion and hypothesis of the psychology of Dominance and human nature.
Yes, I gave My permission to quote Me on this as I am never afraid to express My opinion.
Yes, I know people will disagree and that is the nature of discussion and I'm fine with that.
It has been genetically, sociologically and anthropologically supported that Humans as a species are meant to be a herd(poly) creature and that monogamy is neither natural nor socially sound as the species goes.

Unfortunately, I am not a forum browser/reader so I won't be following the thread.  I do love discussion and any can feel free to mail Me if they have comments directly, although I don't take kindly to flame attacks over expressing My opinion and such mails of that nature will be ignored or reported depending on their severity of tone.  I wish all of you a good discussion and I really do think that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and this is My own.

Blessed Be and have a wonderful day.

Seuss

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:15:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Meant to".  I see, so all other forms of human society that have since been formed are somehow defective to nature.  Durkheim would have had something to say about that...regardless, in social sciences, there are no 'proofs', just observations of structures.      

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:18:00 AM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: LordSeussMD
Humans as a species are meant to be a herd(poly) creature
Most people are meant to be a herd creature. Some are not. For example the lone highway man, the lone prospector and the Lone Rider.
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: LordSeussMD
monogamy is neither natural nor socially sound as the species goes.

Monogamy reduces the risk of contaminating an entire population with very nasty sexually transmitted diseases.
 
That aside, I do agree that some people are so severely handicapped that they may function better in a limited polygamous marriage.
 
In christian populations the female in a marriage is allowed to be cautiously adulterous, as this improves the gene pool. In contrast males in marriage had better be monogamous for the purpose of the aforementioned risk reduction.

< Message edited by Rule -- 9/28/2008 6:32:52 AM >

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:18:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, having read other posts, I think My original one answers the question, but I'll reiterate: Why didn't I post this Myself? Answer: Because I don't browse or read forums.  Nothing wrong with them, but there are far too many forums out there to spend all My time browsing and reading them, especially as most end up degenerating into social cliques.  I do encourage any to express their views and if the forums is your method of choice I salute you for that, but it's not Mine and I don't intend to start.  I openly express My views in direct emails and in My personal journal on the site and any are welcome to read or not.  Again, this is My opinion and as such, you are welcome to take it or leave it at that, and I take no offense to reasoned response directly to My mail.  The only thing I don't appreciate is verbal attacks on an opinion as that is neither productive or mature.  Enjoy your discussion and I hope it's at least food for thought.

Seuss

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:25:28 AM   
chamberqueen


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Status: offline 		While I don't agree that one MUST be poly to be a Dom, I do agree that many Doms are poly.  This brings with it a responsibility of letting a potential sub know this.  Being 1poly and being open about it is different than cheating. 

We often talk about hard limits here, but this one seems to get pushed to the background even though it is very important.  Some subs simply can't handle the idea of their Dom (or prospective Dom) having anyone but them.  Others could handle it as long as they didn't have to be involved, still others only if it meant they could never be loaned to another.  These limits are all just as valid as deciding that you want no scat play or knives (or whatever hard limits you have).  The pain is more emotional than physical, but if a sub is not fully prepared for others in the relationship it can be crushing.  If you are open to it then it can become something that enhances the relationship rather than detracting from it.


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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:26:19 AM   
GreedyTop


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LordSeussMD

Oh, having read other posts, I think My original one answers the question, but I'll reiterate: Why didn't I post this Myself? Answer: Because I don't browse or read forums.  Nothing wrong with them, but there are far too many forums out there to spend all My time browsing and reading them, especially as most end up degenerating into social cliques.  I do encourage any to express their views and if the forums is your method of choice I salute you for that, but it's not Mine and I don't intend to start.  I openly express My views in direct emails and in My personal journal on the site and any are welcome to read or not.  Again, this is My opinion and as such, you are welcome to take it or leave it at that, and I take no offense to reasoned response directly to My mail.  The only thing I don't appreciate is verbal attacks on an opinion as that is neither productive or mature.  Enjoy your discussion and I hope it's at least food for thought.

Seuss


But aren't poly families a form of social cliques?

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:29:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seuss,

1) You really should list things that support your opinion.
2) Your opinion is an absolute, and life teaches there are very few absolutes.
3) While humans are animals, we also have the ability to create ethics and morals. Often the monogamy to another is controled by our codes.
4) Your excuse as to the reasons why you will not be responding, sounds like a cowards way to avoid conflict.

Orion

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:39:10 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Typically, in polygamous species the males are very much larger than the females. The size difference between men and women is not that large to indicate extreme polygamy in humans; rather it suggests that there is relatively low polygamy.
 
In these times in christian societies serial polygamy does occur: people marry, divorce and marry someone else. Of course this is rather risky, contagious diseases wise, and quite likely the cause of the huge increase in medical expenses. Such people would have done better to never start a relationship.

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:47:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see it as that complicated. Instinct and hormones may ensure the survival of the herd, but they don't create advanced civilizations. You can debate that all you want but if you follow the graph of human evolution, it's quite clear that the bulk of the rise did not occur with a herd (poly) mindset in a sexual context. Socially yes, sexually no. Aside from that, for every opinion out there, others exits that are diametrically opposed and work for those who hold them. Boils down to a simple fact of life that opinions are... well, we know what they're like.  When someone's doesn't mesh with yours and they insist upon burdening you with that opinion, a simple Fuck off along with ignore works pretty well most of the time.

Life is about choices. I choose to not be a product of instinct and hormones when it comes to my relationship. If it makes one less Domly to not mount all the mares in heat within a given radius, I suppose I will be less Domly. Then again, I've never been about herds. It is another one of my opinions that rising above the herd is a good thing, not a bad one.

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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:52:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		You cannot be serious.  Someone whose handle is essentially Dr. Seuss contacted you and you took him seriously?

I have a sub.  Her name is sue.
I like to flog her black and blue.
I have a sub.  Her name is lex.  I keep her around just for the sex.
I have a sub.  Her name is lee.  She is a service sub to me.
I have a sub.  Her name is molly.
I have lots of subs, because twue Doms are poly.


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RE: Opinons? - 9/28/2008 6:53:22 AM   
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