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sambamanslilgirl -> RE: collar of protection (9/30/2008 9:44:08 PM)

the "let's just be friends" collar = velcro collar

the "I'll call you tomorrow" collar = "promise" collar (like a promise ring)

the "I'm just not that into you" collar = play collar



tazzygirl -> RE: collar of protection (9/30/2008 9:52:12 PM)

collar of protection... who was protecting you before he, or she, came along?  yourself.  and suddenly, because this person is now interested in you for whatever reason, you can no longer be capable of taking care of yourself?  amazing...

never make someone your priority if you are only their option

collars of protection, collars of consideration.. ect... are designed to take you off the market while they "decide" if you are worth their time and effort, while making you believe you have to put your 110 percent into them

and that is a MUST read for any submissive

"he just isnt that into you" by Greg Behrendt and Liz Tuccillo

here is a link to a story about their book

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/excerpts/2004-09-08-hes-just_x.htm

i read it years ago.. what an eye opener!



GreedyTop -> RE: collar of protection (9/30/2008 10:04:21 PM)

what a great link, tazzy! Thanks!



NewlySingle329 -> RE: collar of protection (9/30/2008 10:12:55 PM)

Potential Doms might never approach you with a collar of any sort on.  So what would it do for you?



juliaoceania -> RE: collar of protection (9/30/2008 11:26:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NewlySingle329

Potential Doms might never approach you with a collar of any sort on.  So what would it do for you?


I can think of many times I would have liked to have the "protection" of a wedding ring to keep certain men from annoying the fuck out of me....

That is probably the only time I would want to wear one, to avoid ALL men at a BDSM club, and believe it or not there are plenty of other reasons to go to clubs than to meet dominants for potential play or more.

I have also heard of their use in a private party context. A friend of mine went to a private party which had house collars of protection for subs that either did not want to be approached or that were involved with someone but unaccompanied...



RealSub58 -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 3:05:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

Learn to use your own good judgement and forget the collar of protection. Once your actually "owned" by someone protection should come with that. Until then you are responsible for yourself as an adult. I've seen to many slaves throw the responsibility of taking care of themselves to the wind just because they wore a "collar of protection". That collar will not protect you, your instincts will so use them.

Good luck,
~Lashra



Once owned, security should come from the fact that the owner will protect you as he/she guides and directs you.
 
Aren't collars of "protection", "consideration" just online mentality? Thats my take on it and thus....like Lashra said.



Dnomyar -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 4:57:45 AM)

Thanks Julia. These people just about had me convinced to throw my protection collars away.



persephonee -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 5:10:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BKSir

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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ORIGINAL: boytoyinatlanta

from bad play partners, users, abusers, sex fiends, and other undesirables


like a collar is some kind of magic talisman? akin to vampires and garlic??


Kind of, but not really.  Just get one with a nice heavy buckle on it.  If someone doesn't understand 'No.', then take it off and slap the flaming green christ out of them with the heavy end of said collar.  [:D]



"flaming green christ"...eyes lowered, may this girl borrow that one??

peace

perse



persephonee -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 5:16:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Thanks Julia. These people just about had me convinced to throw my protection collars away.


i just now thought of it...may i have one for this weekend? im all out of condoms. ill bring it right back....in almost the same condition it was given.



DesFIP -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 7:17:57 AM)

The only occasions where this might be useful is if you are going to a play party and don't want to play. And have had trouble being viewed as fresh meat at past parties. This way the dom would be watching out for you in case you get hit on by someone who doesn't understand the word no when said by a female. Of course, you could just as easily yell out for the DM unless you're the type who freezes up in such situations.

But for anything other than a party, it really is of no use. An online one is a way for him to make sure no one else wants you, because he'll tell you that none of them is right. And pretty soon he'll be offering you sister sub status, just so you can be safe and learn while he's fucking you.

Big red flag this.



SingleRarity -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 8:08:24 AM)

A little script I wrote in spirit of the OP.

Setting:  Swanky play party.  The sounds of flogging and subtle cries of pain pleasure set the tone.  Oh and we're in Paris, because that's just sexy, but everyone is speaking English, mostly because it would take me too long to translate this into French.

HOT NEW DOM:  Hi there. (He's hot!)
SUB:  Hello (Smiles sweetly)
HND:  I see you're wearing a collar.  I assume you're taken?
SUB:  Oh no, it's just a collar of protection.
HND:  Protection from what exactly, evil wookies?
SUB:  I'm not sure, but I was told by some dude on collar me that I can't take care of myself.
HND:  Sure. (Hot New Dom walks away to find a sub who can use her brain.)

Okay, so I'm not the next Diablo Cody.  In fact it's downright bad, but it get's the point across.  Feel free to expand.  Perhaps we can write a soap of sorts.

Daddy's Ballerina, e





JewAndCelt -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 9:10:20 AM)

I think the 'Collar of Protection' goes hand in hand with 'Mentoring'.



VampiresLair -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 9:21:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JewAndCelt

I think the 'Collar of Protection' goes hand in hand with 'Mentoring'.


Not necessarily.  I mentor on occasion, but I certainly have no interest in collaring any of the boys or girls I mentor. Protection or not, they are not owned and wearing a collar of any kind lets them play owned. One thing I thought of later, which I didnt include in my oiginal response is tis: Is it perhaps you that wants the noncommital semi-ownership of the collar of protection? Do you want someone who is going to play Master for you for a while, without the necessity of actual ownership?

Dv



GreedyTop -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 9:43:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SingleRarity

A little script I wrote in spirit of the OP.

Setting:  Swanky play party.  The sounds of flogging and subtle cries of pain pleasure set the tone.  Oh and we're in Paris, because that's just sexy, but everyone is speaking English, mostly because it would take me too long to translate this into French.

HOT NEW DOM:  Hi there. (He's hot!)
SUB:  Hello (Smiles sweetly)
HND:  I see you're wearing a collar.  I assume you're taken?
SUB:  Oh no, it's just a collar of protection.
HND:  Protection from what exactly, evil wookies?
SUB:  I'm not sure, but I was told by some dude on collar me that I can't take care of myself.
HND:  Sure. (Hot New Dom walks away to find a sub who can use her brain.)

Okay, so I'm not the next Diablo Cody.  In fact it's downright bad, but it get's the point across.  Feel free to expand.  Perhaps we can write a soap of sorts.

Daddy's Ballerina, e


PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!   *snortsnicker*



Dnomyar -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 10:44:53 AM)

Throws dog collar, training collar, protection collar, shirt collar, velcro collar, horse collar, at greedy. Take your choice.



KatyLied -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 11:13:29 AM)

I think it's nice that people can indulge their damsel-in-distress/knight-in-shining-armor kinks through the use of collars of protection.



Not.






badlilthang -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 1:36:42 PM)

Quote from your profile goodgirlslave: "my fantasy is to be owned, taken out every now and then to be used . . . maybe brought to a party as a pet on a leash . . .

if you are single and looking for a relationship, please do not contact me. " end of quote.

*and now you are considering a protection collar? i am a tad lost here....since you do want to be owned - but is not interested in a relationship - what exactly do you think a collar is - aside from neat jewelry to show off ? You might be right that you do need a collar if you wanna be brought to a party by a leash, though - easier to attach that way...*

this is a reply to goodgirlslave - btw - not to KatyLied...ops...*L*



somethndif -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 1:52:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: goodgirlslave

i am considering taking a collar of protection.  can anyone give me some thoughts to think about or questions to ask as i consider it?


I'll be blunt.  A "collar of protection" is just some stupid shit someone made up.  It means nothing at all to me.  But if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, then by all means, go for it.  You can always give it back, throw it away, or sell it on Ebay!

Dan



XaviersXian -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 1:55:12 PM)

greetings to all,

To me, a "collar of protection" is an IRC creation that means absolutely nothing.  A woman can be obedient to a man without any form of marker.  It is about the urge to serve, not the jewellery.

well wishes,



IvyMorgan -> RE: collar of protection (10/1/2008 2:48:27 PM)

Collar of Protection...

I'll be wearing one of these this weekend.  Granted, there may not be an actual collar, but, there will be a large scary (but fairly kitten like in reality) dom guy standing (proverbially) over me ready to rain doom on those who don't get the hint to bug off.  Both of us know that frequently my club experiences are marred by my lack of being perceived as authorative/assertive, and by people ignoring me when I say no.  Whilst I work on this, he's my back up, enforcing the nos I can't manage myself.  Here's to hoping that my weekend in clubs will be far more fun and relaxed that previously.

It's a one weekend only deal, chances are we'll play, tis kinda the point of us going out/meeting up, that and more getting to know each other that we kinda skipped over last time by going straight to the flogging part of the night.

Can I see this working longer term?  Unlikely.  Mainly because I don't see the difference between how this scenario would work and how a collar of ownership would essentially function (bearing in mind that my regular collar marks a now near completely platonic relationship that is more akin to friendship D/s than anything kinky).  The wearer would be "owned" but the top, who would just possibly be opting out of playing/fucking them.

Collar of Consideration...

I've always, always, always thought of this as a two way street.  The top considers the bottom, and the bottom considers the top, and both consider whether the relationship that the two of them could have is one that they are suited to and would enjoy.  I see this as a perfectly legitimate scenario, like a period of dating before you settle into a relationship.  Testing the waters and finding out compatability etc.

I guess these might be more prevalent in poly households where you really do need to put work into figuring out compatability with many people and getting lots of people's input into how a relationship would function, and where "trying it and seeing if it works out" is perhaps more of a challenge given the larger number of people involved.

Collars mean whatever you want them to, symbolise whatever you want them to, and as long as you, the wearer and the giver, are happy, who's to moan?  Just don't expect the whole world to agree with your definition of a collar of X, and to feel that it holds the same meaning for them as it does for you.



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