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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 1:38:23 PM   
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I think he is history this time....the system is going to get him.  Plus he is a dumbass for doing what he did.

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 1:55:43 PM   
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I wonder what the African American community thinks of OJ now. Do they think he is just being hounded because he is black and beat the "MAN" in the past... or are they relieved that he will no longer be a symbol of a black murder gone free?
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I WONDER what the (insert name of community here) thinks of  (insert name of criminal here) now... Curious how that works... For instance: 'I wonder what the anglo American community thinks of President George W Bush now.'

Fact is, O.J. 'belongs' no more to the black community than a white criminal 'belongs to the white community. That you assign this stigma says a lot about YOU, as an individual. OBTW: you can try the same 'exercise,' based on sex, religion, or any other attribute you WANT to give visibility to.

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 2:22:05 PM   
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So what do all the black, wannabe white, freak show, buy your own justice, Jesus juice drinking child fiddlers on here think of Michael Jackson now?

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 5:00:44 PM   
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I doubt that the African-American community, as a whole, thinks only one particular thing.



As a whole ...meaning the majority of thoughts and feelings…. the African American community WILL have one predominate opinion...I have no idea what that will be. We will soon find out.


Well, pardon me, but I disagree.

And why will the African-American community "have one predominate opinion"?  Because you say so?

A majority of white America favors either Obama or McCain, but it would be incorrect to say that the predominant, majority opinion is white America's opinion.

The same is true of black America.

If 51% of black America thinks one thing, and 49% thinks another, how can you say that black America's opinion is what the 51% thinks, and totally negate the other 49%?

If the overwhelming majority of black America has a similar opinion on an issue (like its opposition to the war in Iraq), then that's black America's opinion.  If its opinion is split, you cannot speak of black America's opinion.

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 5:30:36 PM   
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Ya'll should have watched the first trial.

I was self employed, in my home at the time of the first trial and watched every minute of the televised trial and the evidence presented, like it or not, said OJ did not kill his ex wife or her boy friend. He probably knew, or even hired, who did kill them, but that was not the charge against him.

This time, he is found guilty, because the evidence confirms the charge.



Amazing how that works when you have prosecutors doing a good job and presenting compelling and legally obtained evidence.

In the first trial, the prosecutorial 'dream team' consisted of the same Bozos who couldn't even convict the Menendez Brothers with a freaking confession...
 
Instead of building a case and solving the murders of  Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown, the cops leaped the fence both literally and figuratively, sure they would find a mountain of fresh evidence inside his house... and then had to explain that the reason they were searching inside rolled up socks and bedside drawers without a warrant was 'exigency'...because OJ might have been hiding some other victim in there.
Only in the Bizarro world where the trial judge was married to those detective's boss, would any of that nonsense have gotten past the first round without being thrown out.

Agree that the best guess is that OJ stood nearby and watched someone else do the killings, but no way in hell that arthritic middle aged ex-jock leaped out from the bushes and slaughtered 2 grown people without getting more on him than the miniscule traces that were found.

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 5:45:23 PM   
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...Okay, I have to ask, anyone ever see Blaakmaan outside a thread that didn't have anything to do with race? I can't help but notice that this is the third time I've seen him, and the other two times, there was someone talking about race.

Another thing: "White America"? "Black America"? Anyone else think that sounds like major racist bullshit? I'm with Xploremyworld on this. If you say that someone belongs to one collective "community" or another because of something as trivial as skin pigmentation, that very much says something about you.

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 6:07:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Xploremyworld

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I wonder what the African American community thinks of OJ now. Do they think he is just being hounded because he is black and beat the "MAN" in the past... or are they relieved that he will no longer be a symbol of a black murder gone free?
...
Butch


I WONDER what the (insert name of community here) thinks of  (insert name of criminal here) now... Curious how that works... For instance: 'I wonder what the anglo American community thinks of President George W Bush now.'

Fact is, O.J. 'belongs' no more to the black community than a white criminal 'belongs to the white community. That you assign this stigma says a lot about YOU, as an individual. OBTW: you can try the same 'exercise,' based on sex, religion, or any other attribute you WANT to give visibility to.



I must admit if I was black I wouldn't claim him either...and as a white American I am ashamed of Bush. The black community in general had no problem claiming him at the time... Or at least their view of him was totally different than white America. Why all of a sudden am I a racist wondering how he is thought of in the black community today?

I think it is a fair question considering the split in the past. I do apologize if I worded the question inappropriately.

Butch

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 6:35:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

quote:

ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

I doubt that the African-American community, as a whole, thinks only one particular thing.



As a whole ...meaning the majority of thoughts and feelings…. the African American community WILL have one predominate opinion...I have no idea what that will be. We will soon find out.


Well, pardon me, but I disagree.

And why will the African-American community "have one predominate opinion"?  Because you say so?

A majority of white America favors either Obama or McCain, but it would be incorrect to say that the predominant, majority opinion is white America's opinion.

The same is true of black America.

If 51% of black America thinks one thing, and 49% thinks another, how can you say that black America's opinion is what the 51% thinks, and totally negate the other 49%?

If the overwhelming majority of black America has a similar opinion on an issue (like its opposition to the war in Iraq), then that's black America's opinion.  If its opinion is split, you cannot speak of black America's opinion.



Would it be wrong in your mind to think White Americans in general believe Simpson is a murderer who got off the hook?

Butch

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 7:30:46 PM   
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quote:

Agree that the best guess is that OJ stood nearby and watched someone else do the killings, but no way in hell that arthritic middle aged ex-jock leaped out from the bushes and slaughtered 2 grown people without getting more on him than the miniscule traces that were found.


How so?  You don't have to be Rambo to get the drop on two people with a knife.  He had plenty of time to ditch evidence and clean himself up.  Granted, the police work and prosecution were a gigantic cluster fuck.  A lot of people should have been thrown out on their asses over that whole case.  But OJ did it, and it's perfectly clear that he did it IMO.  If he'd been smart, he would have moved out of the U.S. immediately following the aquittal and lived out his days in comfortable obscurity.  But arrogant fool that he is, he chose his own fate. 

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/6/2008 8:12:36 PM   
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I didn't say get the drop on, I said slaughtered solo without more of a trace... the person who inflicted that much damage to 2 full sized people would have had blood in every pore and every hair on their body, clean up or no. 

Yeah, he could have worn a hazmat suit, and hotwired a nearby vehicle and taken it out to the desert where he had a complete decon set up waiting, and then buried everything except for a pair of socks that only had tiny drops on them and then run across country to his waiting vehicle in time to make the plane... but I'm skeptical.


Based on what was recovered, OJ was in contact at some point, no doubt, but either the prosecution threw away a couple of buckets of red stuff and forgot to mention it at trial, or someone else did all or most of the actual dirty weapons work...
just like OJ had them do in the current case, while he played mastermind.

And, as I said, it is only a best guess, I simply don't buy that he played Zorro all by himself.

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/7/2008 9:26:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

I didn't say get the drop on, I said slaughtered solo without more of a trace... the person who inflicted that much damage to 2 full sized people would have had blood in every pore and every hair on their body, clean up or no. 

Yeah, he could have worn a hazmat suit, and hotwired a nearby vehicle and taken it out to the desert where he had a complete decon set up waiting, and then buried everything except for a pair of socks that only had tiny drops on them and then run across country to his waiting vehicle in time to make the plane... but I'm skeptical.


Based on what was recovered, OJ was in contact at some point, no doubt, but either the prosecution threw away a couple of buckets of red stuff and forgot to mention it at trial, or someone else did all or most of the actual dirty weapons work...
just like OJ had them do in the current case, while he played mastermind.

And, as I said, it is only a best guess, I simply don't buy that he played Zorro all by himself.


I am not an OJ fan, but I am a innocent until proven guilty fan!

Don't forget.
  1. The socks with the blood on them had the blood pressed into them so that it was pushed through the weave of the fibers and bubbled up on the inside of the sock where there should have been an ankle preventing that from happening.
  2. The glove was found in a 3 foot wide side yard, between the side of the house and the fence by a cop looking into OJ's yard from a neighbors yard, and when they went to get the glove they had to knock down cobwebs to get to it. I guess OJ tossed it over the fence into his yard from the neighbors yard.
  3. Blood samples found on the back gate at the crime scene, reported to be left there by OJ during his getaway had blood preservative in it when it was collected. 
  4. Goldman's knuckles on both hands were split open from blunt force trauma (he hit some one hard, and more then once) and they photographed OJ's entire body (in underwear) when he was questioned and he did not have a bruise on him anywhere.
Just to mention a few things.

Like Alumbrado & I have conjectured, he knew who did it, he may have hired them to do it, and he may have been there and watched. But He did not "Do It".

The prosecuters tried him for a crime they could never prove. They lacked evedence to back up the case.

This time however they got him dead to rights.

< Message edited by LDRandAstarte -- 10/7/2008 9:30:50 AM >


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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/7/2008 11:57:13 AM   
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guess being a legend in his own mind didn't get him too far this time.  from what i've seen from oj over the years, i honestly believe he has a narcissistic personality, he cannot accept blame for what he does.  he believes he can do no wrong because after all, he's oj. 
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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/7/2008 4:41:14 PM   
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You say narcissistic, like I am a bad thing!

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RE: O.J. Found Guilty in Robbery Trial - 10/7/2008 8:33:54 PM   
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