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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 7:40:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub  I get so tired of hearing people state that science is God ...
I have never heard an actual scientist say this.  Science is not God.  It doesn't attempt to be God, replace God or deny God.  It isn't about God.

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 7:44:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub  I get so tired of hearing people state that science is God ...
I have never heard an actual scientist say this.  Science is not God.  It doesn't attempt to be God, replace God or deny God.  It isn't about God.



Hi Racquelle...it was just a play on words by me...meaning science believes it is the one and only way to understand the universe.

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 7:46:10 PM   
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Creationism is hardly "philosophy" -- it's blind faith in a literal read of Genesis.

That's funny.  You think they actually READ Genesis?

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 7:51:04 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 7:51:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub  I get so tired of hearing people state that science is God ...
I have never heard an actual scientist say this.  Science is not God.  It doesn't attempt to be God, replace God or deny God.  It isn't about God.



Hi Racquelle...it was just a play on words by me...meaning science believes it is the one and only way to understand the universe.
  "Science" isn't just one set of understandings.  "Science" doesn't believe it is the "only way to understand the universe."  There isn't one central scientific body demanding we all believe one set of ideas.  If anything, we are asked to observe, methodically, and reach conclusions, logically.  That's it.  But many of us don't even do that much - because it's hard and we are forgetting how.

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:04:06 PM   
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Creationism is hardly "philosophy" -- it's blind faith in a literal read of Genesis.

That's funny.  You think they actually READ Genesis?



Probably more like listen to Genesis----

A misunderstanding

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:06:18 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:06:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Racquelle I am only talking about religion in general and Genesis in particular...Those opposed to the belief in Genesis use science as their proof.

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:12:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		When you say Genesis, which creation account do you mean? There are two, and they contradict each other.

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:13:40 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:14:57 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:16:52 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:16:54 PM   
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A very small slice of Norse Mythology that could well pre-date Genesis.

Now, if you promulgate creationism, as some likely alternative, why do I gotta pick your god?


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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:17:13 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:19:10 PM   
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Creationism is hardly "philosophy" -- it's blind faith in a literal read of Genesis.

That's funny.  You think they actually READ Genesis?



Probably more like listen to Genesis----

A misunderstanding
I really do like all those views of old Los Angeles.  Reminds me of when I was a kid.

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:20:19 PM   
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Women who quote Stephen Jay Gould are hot.
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Women who quote Stephen Jay Gould are hot.
Damn skippin!

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:21:01 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:21:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now lets see…how about science and the many different beliefs of what was before creation….just a few;

We are a bubble…it pops thus creating a universe.
The previous Universe contracted and rebounded thus creating our universe.
The was nothing before creation
We are in a dimension along with many others…when these flat dimension planes come in contact with each other a universe is born.

I am tired of typing… I could add many more version….it seems science has a harder time making up their minds then God in explaining Genesis.
Butch

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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:22:57 PM   
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RE: Creationism in public schools - 10/4/2008 8:27:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Butch, I have no earthly idea what point you're trying to make.

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