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Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:26:18 PM   
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Over the past two days I've been doing a bit of thinking. About fetish obviously, but more specifically about clothes.

I went to the Barbican Xpo this weekend, which was awesome and full of pretty things and shiny people. I really do enjoy these fetish fair thingys, with their nifty toys and enjoyable performances and their wide, wide variety of kinky clothes. Everything is really interesting, whether or not I personally find it attractive or sexy, and there is such a wide variety of colours, styles, shapes, materials and accessories that it's really hard not to find yourself staring at certain items.

One of the events that took place at the Xpo was a fetish fashion show. Models walking down the runway wearing items of clothing from shops that had stands set up around the venue. They were all rather striking, some more so than others, but the one thing that struck me was the abundance of rubber and latex. I think there were a grand total of 7 people in the show not wearing some sort of shiny plastic, out of about... 30 or so?

Now, I've never been a fan of latex, rubber or PVC, but I hadn't realised just how un-sexy I found it until this weekend. The first 15 models out were all wearing shiny clothes, and some of the outfits looked pretty, but I was generally left feeling a bit 'meh' about it. It wasn't until the models wearing brocade corsets, tulle skirts and satin shawls came on that I realised how little the latex had been doing for me, though. And I don't mean that in a dirty, pervy way. Honest. ;)

So I did a bit of thinking as we walked around all the clothing stalls. Most of them were, indeed, selling shiny things. Lots of people wearing shiny things, too. Shiny boots, shiny corsets, shiny skirts, shiny trousers, shiny stockings... lots of shiny. And while they caught my eye, they did little other than, well... be shiny. Well... for me, anyway. It's obvious latex and rubber is very popular in the fetish scene, and that's fair enough, but I find it kind of... I don't know. The only word I can think of really is "gimmicky", but that sounds really harsh and I don't think that's quite the right word, anyway.

I mean, I can appreciate latex clothing, but I find I generally view it in the same way I view renaissance art. Some of it is pretty and eye-catching, but it's not really sexy.

There was one outfit in the fashion show that I thought would have been amazingly sexy if it had been made of anything other than latex or rubber. It was a white blouse, a black under-bust corset, and a long, dark red pencil skirt. It looked very old school marm, actually. The cut was nice, the shape was lovely, but... the latex left me cold. If it had been a real, cloth blouse, a satin corset and a cotton skirt it would have been absolutely stunning. The latex-clad people at the fair caught my eye, but it was the people wearing the non-shiny fabrics that held it.

I find this sexier than this
I find this sexier than this
I find this sexier than this
And I find this sexier than this.

I mean, that's a very visual thing, but I also don't like the smell or the feel of latex or rubber, either. Leather I am alright with, but only matt leather. I saw two pairs of shoes on one of the stalls today... they were exactly the same shoe; same shape, same cut, same height, same design... the only difference was that one was matt and the other was patent leather. I thought the matt shoes were much nicer.

Anyway... that went on for longer than I thought it would. I actually wanted to use this post to ask people what clothes or materials appeal to them in a fetish-y context. Are you attracted or drawn to certain materials when you see them? Do you absolutely adore the way a certain fabric feels when you wear it? Are the clothes you choose to wear meant to make you feel a certain way or put you in a certain frame of mind? I'd be interested to know. :)


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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:31:34 PM   
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I think latex is one of those things you either love or hate. But it is shiny and catches the eye which is important at a show, catch people's eyes and they'll wander over to view what you have.

But I'd rather have a soft fabric than leather or latex, texture and feel matters to me.

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:38:04 PM   
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I'm not a rubber or latex fan either. I can appreciate it, certainly - on some people nothing else suits better or looks better - but on the whole, I'm a very tactile person. I like soft textures, lacy patterns, a hint of softness.

To me, rubber and latex strike me as cold and impersonal - like you are physically restraining yourself from your environment - and thus I prefer fetish wear that seems to insist that you interact with your environment.

How many of us, for example, see something very soft and cuddly in a store and go running over just to feel up the mannequin? God knows, I do, usually squealing like an idiot and yelling "FUZZY!!!!!!!!!!" on the way over.


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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:40:27 PM   
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I agree with your assessment of what is sexier - I prefer the softer more feminine look.  And I would personally like to wear those items over the other stuff...not that I would kick any of it to the curb mind...

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:42:11 PM   
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I live in California.  It gets too damned hot here for all that crap.  Give me fetish-cotton.

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:43:50 PM   
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...Give me fetish-cotton.


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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:47:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

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ORIGINAL: Racquelle
...Give me fetish-cotton.


"The Fabric of our BDSM Lives...."



/starthijack

Ooo! That should be the name of some of the soap operas that go on around here.

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And Racquelle, I live in west central Florida. I would melt into a pile of icky goo wearing leather and latex. I have a hard enough time as it is in non-fetish gear.


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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:49:16 PM   
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I agree with what you find sexy as well. I often wonder about those who like latex or vinyl but to each their own. I might consider something in nice leather though I prefer the soft look and materials which seem sexier to me.

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 7:52:02 PM   
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from a practical stand, latex and rubber items are generally cheaper to make, there for a better profit margin for the sellers so they tend to offer more of what they can make the best profit margin on. 
Yes there are some very high end latex and rubber, but often the cheaper stuff is used in clothes and shoes. ( yes there are exceptions)
I will say I have several pieces of latex, ok.... 30 or 40 pieces....lol I also have tons of leather, rubber, but not as much cloth fetish items....... but hell I live in cold azzed Michigan we can wear latex and leather here with out sweating...lol 

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 8:58:27 PM   
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The shiny-ness of latex and pvc and whatnot always catches my eye, but the biggest turn off I get from those?  Those squeaky noises it makes sometimes when people move around.  Especially when they make elegant outfits out of the stuff... the noise ruins the image as a whole.  I'm a fan of mixing things.  A Dom in soft leather pants and a cotton shirt? *drool*

I myself am a bit more girly, while still leaning more towards the gothic aspect of it.  Lace and frills are totally the way to go, especially in darker colors.

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 9:03:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sodsta

Over the past two days I've been doing a bit of thinking. About fetish obviously, but more specifically about clothes.

I went to the Barbican Xpo this weekend, which was awesome and full of pretty things and shiny people. I really do enjoy these fetish fair thingys, with their nifty toys and enjoyable performances and their wide, wide variety of kinky clothes. Everything is really interesting, whether or not I personally find it attractive or sexy, and there is such a wide variety of colours, styles, shapes, materials and accessories that it's really hard not to find yourself staring at certain items.

One of the events that took place at the Xpo was a fetish fashion show. Models walking down the runway wearing items of clothing from shops that had stands set up around the venue. They were all rather striking, some more so than others, but the one thing that struck me was the abundance of rubber and latex. I think there were a grand total of 7 people in the show not wearing some sort of shiny plastic, out of about... 30 or so?

Now, I've never been a fan of latex, rubber or PVC, but I hadn't realised just how un-sexy I found it until this weekend. The first 15 models out were all wearing shiny clothes, and some of the outfits looked pretty, but I was generally left feeling a bit 'meh' about it. It wasn't until the models wearing brocade corsets, tulle skirts and satin shawls came on that I realised how little the latex had been doing for me, though. And I don't mean that in a dirty, pervy way. Honest. ;)

So I did a bit of thinking as we walked around all the clothing stalls. Most of them were, indeed, selling shiny things. Lots of people wearing shiny things, too. Shiny boots, shiny corsets, shiny skirts, shiny trousers, shiny stockings... lots of shiny. And while they caught my eye, they did little other than, well... be shiny. Well... for me, anyway. It's obvious latex and rubber is very popular in the fetish scene, and that's fair enough, but I find it kind of... I don't know. The only word I can think of really is "gimmicky", but that sounds really harsh and I don't think that's quite the right word, anyway.

I mean, I can appreciate latex clothing, but I find I generally view it in the same way I view renaissance art. Some of it is pretty and eye-catching, but it's not really sexy.

There was one outfit in the fashion show that I thought would have been amazingly sexy if it had been made of anything other than latex or rubber. It was a white blouse, a black under-bust corset, and a long, dark red pencil skirt. It looked very old school marm, actually. The cut was nice, the shape was lovely, but... the latex left me cold. If it had been a real, cloth blouse, a satin corset and a cotton skirt it would have been absolutely stunning. The latex-clad people at the fair caught my eye, but it was the people wearing the non-shiny fabrics that held it.

I find this sexier than this
I find this sexier than this
I find this sexier than this
And I find this sexier than this.

I mean, that's a very visual thing, but I also don't like the smell or the feel of latex or rubber, either. Leather I am alright with, but only matt leather. I saw two pairs of shoes on one of the stalls today... they were exactly the same shoe; same shape, same cut, same height, same design... the only difference was that one was matt and the other was patent leather. I thought the matt shoes were much nicer.

Anyway... that went on for longer than I thought it would. I actually wanted to use this post to ask people what clothes or materials appeal to them in a fetish-y context. Are you attracted or drawn to certain materials when you see them? Do you absolutely adore the way a certain fabric feels when you wear it? Are the clothes you choose to wear meant to make you feel a certain way or put you in a certain frame of mind? I'd be interested to know. :)


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I mean, I can appreciate latex clothing, but I find I generally view it in the same way I view renaissance art. Some of it is pretty and eye-catching, but it's not really sexy.


I understand what you say overall about all these types of clothes..My problem is different...When i go to the Fetish store, there are many clothes too. But if i happen to generally find lots of female clothing highly refine, stylish and sexy, i think that for men, 90% of the available clothes are more simpler and often exaggerated like a caricature: masks; leather pants with an ass opening; vinyl men shorts(!); all in all, i find it sometimes hard to choose something i really like and am comfortable to wear as i would find myself sexy in it...I think that like for fashion in general, women benefit immensely on choice and variety of style. I really think some men do look ridiculous in their outfits sometimes...I want to feel as sexy and attractive as when i wear evening city clothes..I think the fetish industry should try to improve the fashion for men..You don't always feel at ease wearing a collar or a ball-contraption, even if it defines your status in the BDSM community...Does it always has to be that obvious a label for men? Women can wear about anything...They become incredibly sexy (that's normal as they are so much more attractive than men), but i would enjoy it immensely if there would be more choice for men. Women could walk in the street wearing these fetish clothes: everybody will look with envy and admiration and they will be stunned! But what is your reaction when you see a man wearing these clothes in the street? They look gay!! And i'm not...That's the problem...Is there a proper balance somewhere? If you're not gay (like me) but more refine than a brute, it would be very nice to find clothes that you really feel represent you!



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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 9:44:41 PM   
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latex is more for a fetish person then a fashion person  if fashion you want try pvc it is cheaper and easier to work with  if not leather last longer and takes more abuse

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 9:52:17 PM   
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Leather is the shiz. Latex and rubber just make me sweaty looking at it. Besides, my slave is allergic to latex.

And this one time, at band camp... I used a latex rubber on her when we first got together and didnt realize it. Her stuff swelled shut. It was bad.

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 9:55:08 PM   
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And this one time, at band camp... I used a latex rubber on her when we first got together and didnt realize it. Her stuff swelled shut. It was bad.

C-D


Ow! *crosses her legs together in sympathy*

Now I'm thinking about my bits swelling shut and ow ow ow ow ow I think I need a pack of ice or something.

How long did it take for her to deflate and recover?? And I take it that's the first she knew about being allergic to latex?



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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 10:01:25 PM   
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Leather is the shiz. Latex and rubber just make me sweaty looking at it. Besides, my slave is allergic to latex.

And this one time, at band camp... I used a latex rubber on her when we first got together and didnt realize it. Her stuff swelled shut. It was bad.

C-D


I dated a girl in college who had a severe allergy to latex which she had not previously known about.  This one came as a result of a latex condom though, that night didn't end pretty.  I can always remember running in the latex wrestling suits in high school to make weight before a match.  Sweating buckets, and feeling like I was going to melt.  That ruined latex for me, I don't think I could ever enjoy a woman wearing it (no matter how sexy) without immediately remembering what it was like to wear it. 

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 10:14:01 PM   
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latex is more for a fetish person then a fashion person  if fashion you want try pvc it is cheaper and easier to work with  if not leather last longer and takes more abuse


Very true, latexbaby64.  It is much more for a fetishist than someone who just likes pretty fashions.  You'll either love it or hate it.  It's just not for everyone, just like CBT or crossdressing isn't for everyone.  The most common complaints are it's too tight/restrictive or it's too hot.  Rubberwear is not for sissies.  Just leave the rubber stuff for us hardcore rubber lovers out here who can truly appreciate it for all it's evil and alluring qualities...lol.
 
Mistress and I love latex...we're both obsessed with it.  If we could wear it 24/7, we would.  We could live in it.  I love the tight, restrictive nature of it.  It's like a bondage outfit.  I love the fact it makes me sweat, but I don't like to wear it when it's chilly or cold and I don't see how people can wear it when it's cold.  I don't know why I like that it makes me sweat, I just do.  For me, the tighter and more restrictive it is, the more I love it.  The hotter it is, the more I love it.  What can I say?  I love to suffer in my rubber and I'm proud of it!  
 
For Mistress and I the look and feel is like nothing else.  It's like the body was dipped in a thick liquid and is constantly wet and shiny.  The way it can mold to a body and hug every single curve on that person is like no other fabric.  I love the way how it starts off at room temperature, but quickly warms up to the body's temperature.
 
Besides, the vision of Mistress in latex is enough to send me into complete meltdown.  Yesterday was a good day...Mistress bought herself a latex catsuit!  Yay...more rubber for my Rubber Goddess!!!

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 10:28:09 PM   
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Latex is ok... but I can't do a whole outfit of it. I have a latex nurses dress that squeezes the crap out of me, feels too small, and I was unsexily sweaty last time I tried to surprise C with it.  Yuck.... but serves me right going to a metal shop in the middle of summer in latex. Derr...

Right now I'm on a pinstripe kick... and before that I was into the lacy sexy stuff. One of these days (Hopefully during the winter) I will aquire a taste for latex and pick up some cool pieces.... some of the dresses from Syren are cute.


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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/4/2008 10:39:12 PM   
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Latex is ok... but I can't do a whole outfit of it. I have a latex nurses dress that squeezes the crap out of me, feels too small, and I was unsexily sweaty last time I tried to surprise C with it.  Yuck.... but serves me right going to a metal shop in the middle of summer in latex. Derr...

Right now I'm on a pinstripe kick... and before that I was into the lacy sexy stuff. One of these days (Hopefully during the winter) I will aquire a taste for latex and pick up some cool pieces.... some of the dresses from Syren are cute.



After reading that, I couldn't help but imagine myself bound and gagged in a hot metal shop in the summertime, fully encased in latex, being tortured mercilessly by Mistress in my hot and sweaty rubber prison.  Yummy!!!
 
OK, I now return this thread back to it's original purpose...to bad-mouth latex. 

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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/5/2008 12:38:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Latex is ok... but I can't do a whole outfit of it. I have a latex nurses dress that squeezes the crap out of me, feels too small, and I was unsexily sweaty last time I tried to surprise C with it.  Yuck.... but serves me right going to a metal shop in the middle of summer in latex. Derr...

Right now I'm on a pinstripe kick... and before that I was into the lacy sexy stuff. One of these days (Hopefully during the winter) I will aquire a taste for latex and pick up some cool pieces.... some of the dresses from Syren are cute.



After reading that, I couldn't help but imagine myself bound and gagged in a hot metal shop in the summertime, fully encased in latex, being tortured mercilessly by Mistress in my hot and sweaty rubber prison.  Yummy!!!


You will have to ask her for a drink before long Dehydration will set in almost immediately.

I liked latex ever since I saw those Ivy Manor movies, but to think they can shoot such scenes under the sun...


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RE: Thoughts on fetish-wear and latex - 10/5/2008 1:29:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: zakkan

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ORIGINAL: rubberpet

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Latex is ok... but I can't do a whole outfit of it. I have a latex nurses dress that squeezes the crap out of me, feels too small, and I was unsexily sweaty last time I tried to surprise C with it.  Yuck.... but serves me right going to a metal shop in the middle of summer in latex. Derr...

Right now I'm on a pinstripe kick... and before that I was into the lacy sexy stuff. One of these days (Hopefully during the winter) I will aquire a taste for latex and pick up some cool pieces.... some of the dresses from Syren are cute.



After reading that, I couldn't help but imagine myself bound and gagged in a hot metal shop in the summertime, fully encased in latex, being tortured mercilessly by Mistress in my hot and sweaty rubber prison.  Yummy!!!


You will have to ask her for a drink before long Dehydration will set in almost immediately.

I liked latex ever since I saw those Ivy Manor movies, but to think they can shoot such scenes under the sun...



I've been into latex for almost 13 years now and I have loads of experience with it, especially living in steamy southwest Louisiana.  I've gotten completely encased in head to toe rubber with hood and gasmask to wash my car under the hot August sun on quite a few occasions.  I've always known dehydration to be a major factor when doing intense rubber encasement in the sun, that's why water and Powerade are a must, plus I'm very careful not to let my temperature get high, either.  That's why breaks are also a must when doing intense heat torture in rubber.  Plus, with Mistress going to school to be an RN, I know I'm in good, very safe hands with her.   She knows how much she can torture me!

I've trained myself over time to be more resilient with it, but never pushing what my limits are.  Obviously, it is dangerous if done incorrectly, but as with any play, risks can be minimized with education and safe practices.



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