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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 11:16:06 AM   
subtex


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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

First it was all "You are MINE!  No one else!", he gave up the password, stopped talking to me, created a new account to 'sneak around'... now the other 'Domme' has gone *poof* on him.  Classic case of her asking him to send her money for 'bills' so she could travel to meet him, then she canceled the trip because she needed more money.  I advised him NOT to do that because I've read the horror stories on these boards of women who need gas money this week and a house payment next week...  When he refused to send cash, she disappeared.



Oh, well that makes sense then.  If a scammer is going to try to scam money from someone they don't want the marks  friends around talking sense to them.

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RE: Jealous Dommes - 10/11/2008 11:51:59 AM   
Celene


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Status: offline 		In fact it makes no sense to me that anyone is falling for that and it's one reason that I don't mind the ones who don't know better "leaving".
Yes, they very often come back but they've shown their colors (stripes, whatever) and I don't need to hear any details. It's a you play, you pay kind of world.*
I have, in fact, told someone to take down his (secondary) profile. But that was because I felt that it was fictitious. The original profile remains and is a true (in my not-so-humble opinion) representation of the man I know. I have no intention of monitoring it. I'm confident in his judgement.

Beware of anyone offering (or demanding) the instant "collar".

*Edited because I was flipping through the "Who should pay?" thread and this expression (you play, you pay) could be taken as either a financial, ProD, or gold diggin' kind of thing... got no qualms with any of those if they are done openly and honestly.
So let me rephrase that - if you are stupid enough to fall for leaving your friends and associates at the blink of an eye (or webcam), you deserve what you get. I wish you only the best.

< Message edited by Celene -- 10/11/2008 12:12:27 PM >

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 3:51:28 PM   
Chi


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Status: offline 		Lady Hibiscus: Given the scenario both you and Jewel describe, and if you have extended the qualities of honor truth trust and loyalty, you have been violate, in fact, the very essence and core of you has been trod upon and it damn sure is head busting time regardless if its male or female dom or sub and I am firmly convinced that is why emergency rooms are open 24/7

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 5:39:20 PM   
PeonForHer


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Status: offline 		Sheesh.  At first I was going to say "What a dilemma for the sub.  He's relinquished all his control to a Domme and now he's ordered to do something that's not good for him and his life.  He dearly wants to do everything he's told, but knows this particular order is fundamentally not right." 

No.  A Domme who gives that order isn't treating her sub responsibly and with due regard to his long-term well-being.  She doesn't deserve to keep him.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 5:44:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chi

Lady Hibiscus: Given the scenario both you and Jewel describe, and if you have extended the qualities of honor truth trust and loyalty, you have been violate, in fact, the very essence and core of you has been trod upon and it damn sure is head busting time regardless if its male or female dom or sub and I am firmly convinced that is why emergency rooms are open 24/7


You know? I still have to remind twice occasionally that as much as she would like to go up to Chicago and have a little one on one time with a certain male up there that it just isn't practical... I can't think of much of anything that is worth jail time... even my heart being broken a time or two. But I have to admit... I love the sentiment there... I really do.
 
Chi... you are a lot like her. She would much rather be able to go and do something about it but is quite adept at staying here and picking up the pieces. She cooks me comfort food and we watch scary movies together while Scooter is at work and slowly I come back around to not hating the world anymore... lol
 
Jewel

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 5:52:11 PM   
VampiresLair


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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett
Do you Ladies - the ones of you who post here frequently are the ones I trust more than most others - require your boys to cut ALL communications with other women?  Even if those ladies are just friends?

I do not believe jealousy has a place. However, while I do not require fox to cut communications I do require him to get permission to do anything more than email with anyone on here. I trust him, I do not trust them. Somehow, the majority of the dominant women he has talked to via messenger are either in or coming to Tennessee, and would love to meet him. But they specify that he should either not tell me, or would prefer I not come along.
I can definitely understand wanting to cut a submissive off from dominants in the early stages of their relationship, until at least boundaries and limits are set regarding communication and acceptable conversations. I had a very major problem with one of Fox's friends who he had known from well before I was in the picture. SHE was jealous of our relationship and she tried to cause problems when I had him speak to her about a communication issue I had.
I think that you need to trust your subs to make good decisions. If they cant be trusted to talk to others, then you are going to have serious problems.

DV


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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 6:28:36 PM   
Twicehappy2x


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ORIGINAL: Chi

the very essence and core of you has been trod upon and it damn sure is head busting time regardless if its male or female dom or sub and I am firmly convinced that is why emergency rooms are open 24/7


My kinda man!
 
See that is exactly how i felt about it but nobody here will let me.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/11/2008 6:31:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chi

Lady Hibiscus: Given the scenario both you and Jewel describe, and if you have extended the qualities of honor truth trust and loyalty, you have been violate, in fact, the very essence and core of you has been trod upon and it damn sure is head busting time regardless if its male or female dom or sub and I am firmly convinced that is why emergency rooms are open 24/7


You know? I still have to remind twice occasionally that as much as she would like to go up to Chicago and have a little one on one time with a certain male up there that it just isn't practical...


But he is pay for play subbie. I'd pay up front, honest.
 
Then i'd unpack the fire ants and the bar straw for his......oh yeah, and the power drill.......
 
Ok, so i have a sadistic streak upon occasion.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 6:18:25 AM   
Chi


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Status: offline 		Jewel: A fundamental truth, when others know and believe they will be held accountable for their conducts behaviors acts and actions by the severest of schools standards they become mindful of  the reckless insensitivity self-centered selfishness that at times lives within us all.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 7:10:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chi

Jewel: A fundamental truth, when others know and believe they will be held accountable for their conducts behaviors acts and actions by the severest of schools standards they become mindful of  the reckless insensitivity self-centered selfishness that at times lives within us all.


I am fully aware of that and what Karma deals out is always far better then anything I personally could come up with. Which is why I only wish to surround myself with good Karma.
 
Jewel

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 7:57:07 AM   
Chi


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Status: offline 		Jewel: I unlike many I do not steep myself in the belief of karma, neither do I dismiss it, but I do believe from the very core of me that if I allow others to violate me, it becomes their right and I have authorized that right by allowing it in the first place. I am responsible for my acts and actions and failing to hold others accountable is not a responsible act for a man like me. Now I have no illusions about a man believing in the philosophy of, “say what you mean and mean what you say” being understood or accepted in the minds of dommes or that it is far too much honesty for most women, but that changes nothing.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 10:13:18 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: Chi

Jewel: I unlike many I do not steep myself in the belief of karma, neither do I dismiss it, but I do believe from the very core of me that if I allow others to violate me, it becomes their right and I have authorized that right by allowing it in the first place. I am responsible for my acts and actions and failing to hold others accountable is not a responsible act for a man like me. Now I have no illusions about a man believing in the philosophy of, “say what you mean and mean what you say” being understood or accepted in the minds of dommes or that it is far too much honesty for most women, but that changes nothing.


{my bolding}

Chi, I have to say that your posts are interesting, but consistenly show a dislike of women, or at the least a reflection of bad experience.  If you have issues with women, why pursue them?

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 12:13:29 PM   
Chi


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Status: offline 		LadyHibiscus: Dislike of women, not at all, yet I am a realist and accept the facts as they are. I believe a man cannot do more of the right and righteous thing then aspire to vulnerability and lay naked upon the alter of an elegant sophisticated intelligent and aware woman’s wants, needs, passions and desires. However, the operative words are elegant sophisticated intelligent and aware, clearly, not every female is shrouded in those qualities.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 12:43:59 PM   
ShiftedJewel


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Status: offline 		He's right you know? Elegant and sophisticated are not words I've ever heard to describe me. Although I am intelligent and aware so I'm half there... lol

quote:

Jewel: I unlike many I do not steep myself in the belief of karma, neither do I dismiss it, but I do believe from the very core of me that if I allow others to violate me, it becomes their right and I have authorized that right by allowing it in the first place. I am responsible for my acts and actions and failing to hold others accountable is not a responsible act for a man like me. Now I have no illusions about a man believing in the philosophy of, “say what you mean and mean what you say” being understood or accepted in the minds of dommes or that it is far too much honesty for most women, but that changes nothing.


I suppose, in a round-a-bout way I have allowed it. Because I made myself open to them, vulnerable to being used and or hurt. I lived for many years not allowing that, no one got close enough to my heart to damage it... or to touch it for that matter. Then one night, caught completely off guard, the walls fell away. I was laughing like I had never laughed before and having more fun then I thought was possible and I realized that this is what it's like to really feel. I enjoyed it so much that I never looked back. And with the feeling wonderful and loved and wanted comes the opposite. Yes, I exposed myself to being hurt, used and cast away by people that professed to care about me but didn't. But you know what? I wouldn't trade it for the world. All the love and happiness I have on a daily basis is more then enough to power me through those rough times. So if I brought it on myself... then so be it. I'll do it again and again and again until I find that one that fits into our home and family. Scooter and twice will continue to pick up the pieces and the world will keep turning and in a bit I'll be just as happy as I was before the pain. It's really that simple.
 
I'm really not all that complicated.
 
Jewel



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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 1:21:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


Chi, I have to say that your posts are interesting, but consistenly show a dislike of women, or at the least a reflection of bad experience.  If you have issues with women, why pursue them?


I do ask myself the same question when I see men repeatedly post negative things about women. Makes them seem like sour apples with chips on their shoulders. Everyone has bad experiences but when you see someone who doesn't like women, ya just kind of know it.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 1:26:02 PM   
GoodgirlFind


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Status: offline 		I usually feel very abandoned, but I don't get jealous. I've never understood jealousy, myself, because I've never wanted what someone else had if it meant for them to not have it.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 1:48:02 PM   
MsStarlett


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ORIGINAL: VampiresLair
Somehow, the majority of the dominant women he has talked to via messenger are either in or coming to Tennessee, and would love to meet him.



Well!  You KNOW how much I want to meet your Fox!  I'm so offended.  Just because I'm demanding that YOU and my Westie also be there...


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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 3:04:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ditto MsStarlett, VL.  I would be happy to meet you and Fox if I ever had the time and money to get to Nashville, but I would never dream of approaching someone else's fiancee in the wannabe-a-predator way you're describing.  That kind of behavior is just...creepy.

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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 3:23:43 PM   
aidan


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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Ditto MsStarlett, VL.  I would be happy to meet you and Fox if I ever had the time and money to get to Nashville, but I would never dream of approaching someone else's fiancee in the wannabe-a-predator way you're describing.  That kind of behavior is just...creepy.


*looks up from his resting place, ears perked*
Trip to Nashville?
*wag-wag-wag*


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RE: Jelous Dommes - 10/12/2008 3:40:05 PM   
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