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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/8/2005 6:43:32 PM

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the inability of some to recognize or validate a reality different from their own still gets to me

Ok...there are different kinds of reality. There is the reality of your relationship and things like reality in the eyes of the law. I don't think anyone is here to judge. If you enjoy a relationship that exists under the rules that you "cannot" escape and never will go for it. No one here would stop you...but many kind people will make suggestions concerning your own personal safety. Your chosen relationship and the legal reality just happen to be different. If you life in the US that's just the truth. There is no situation under the law where you can be forced to participate in a relationship without your consent regardless of what you have been told. That being said you don't need to recognize that behind closed doors in your home if thats how you both want to live. More power to you.

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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/8/2005 9:20:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

more ways than 1, you could look it up if you like. not trying to be smart-alecky, but if a person leaves something unexplained, then most likely that's a private issue.

If it was such a private issue, why bring it up in the first place?

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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/9/2005 6:05:06 AM

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Some people are like Slinkies. They have no practical use whatsoever, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

HAH. No really that made me laugh out loud.

Sorry....back on topic.

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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/9/2005 7:29:58 AM

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As we are talking about consent, one thing to consider. Isn’t each time we post something about our private life giving consent to have other people some of the complete strangers make comments on them?
I know each time I post something about my personal life, I am opening it to the scrutiny of everyone on the forums and anyone that can join them. If we do not want comments or judgements made, the best way to avoid them is to not post about them.
To me saying that what I am posting is not for comment is a lot like trying to say I take back my consent after the fact. Or like crying rape two days after having sex because you realize the person is ugly and your friends won’t like them.
Yes, consent can be withdrawn at anytime by anyone. That is the law of the land. And yes, there are people who do not want or will not withdrawn it or for various reason, be they emotional, physical, spiritual and other reasons. That is fact. If you have given consent and do not ever withdrawn it that is your business and your lifestyle.
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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/9/2005 10:20:49 AM

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I hear this come around a LOT- usually in the "difference between a sub/slave" talks but in other places as well.

It's one of the ways I determine the difference betweeen a asub and a slave....but then you prolly' already knew that :-) The dictionary helps too, but some people like to muddy things up by using their idea in their head over Webster's.

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There is this idea that some people consent ONCE, FOREVER to be under anothers authority and some other people consent EVERY TIME to be under anothers authority.

It's a reality, not an idea :-) So is the second one.

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What exactly does that mean? How do they consent once vs every time?

I am going to do anything I want to you, at any time, with or without cause, up to and including taking your life should it so please me (let's not all get in a huff about this one, I have no intention of taking her or anyone else's life). Do you agree from this moment forward to be owned by me under such circumstances?

Yes (or 'I do' lol), or no as an answer sums it up.

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Is there a difference from the outside? Are people in relationships where they have to evaluate and get consent every day before authority can be in place consensually?

No idea.

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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/9/2005 11:19:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phoenxx

As we are talking about consent, one thing to consider. Isn’t each time we post something about our private life giving consent to have other people some of the complete strangers make comments on them?
I know each time I post something about my personal life, I am opening it to the scrutiny of everyone on the forums and anyone that can join them. If we do not want comments or judgements made, the best way to avoid them is to not post about them.
To me saying that what I am posting is not for comment is a lot like trying to say I take back my consent after the fact. Or like crying rape two days after having sex because you realize the person is ugly and your friends won’t like them.
Yes, consent can be withdrawn at anytime by anyone. That is the law of the land. And yes, there are people who do not want or will not withdrawn it or for various reason, be they emotional, physical, spiritual and other reasons. That is fact. If you have given consent and do not ever withdrawn it that is your business and your lifestyle.
And beauty is as always in the eye of the beholder. Or beer holder....
Tony

I think these are excellent points, Tony.

When I post, I post from experience, my experience. If a thread is to personal or I don't have that experience, I try to refrain from posting -- even though I can be a busybody.

So I try to only post what I'm cool with others commenting on or responding to or knowing. I also try to be a bit tactful when I reply though I'm sure I fail at these goals from time to time.

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RE: Consent Once vs Consent Constantly? - 12/9/2005 11:29:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

more ways than 1, you could look it up if you like. not trying to be smart-alecky, but if a person leaves something unexplained, then most likely that's a private issue.

I -have- looked this up in the past out of a spirit of intellectual curiosity. I have yet to find any way that is -legal- and still allows one to consent to sexual activity. The closes thing I found was legal gaurdianship, but in such cases, having sex with ones gaurdian is considered rape and/or abuse because someone who has an adult gaurdian is considered incapable of consent.

I too would be curious as to actual, fesable, legal means of enslavement, because as far as I've read there isn'tone that is inforceable.

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