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NumberSix -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/11/2008 10:03:24 PM)

We shall secrete it in that holy vault, that vesicle that is commonly called your mouth.

Right after I get done secreting, K?

Not to worry, your tongue is as safe as in God's pocket. Think of that, every time I say God's holey trousers, girl.

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CalifChick -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/11/2008 10:31:51 PM)

Yes Sir.


Cali



NumberSix -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/11/2008 10:37:33 PM)

I feel so dishonoured right now, I am looking for lipstick on my dipstick, but all I see is a look of velleity.

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CalifChick -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/11/2008 10:41:02 PM)

Dear MerriamWebsterDom,


It may appear to be a look of velleity, but the moaning is 100% devotion.


Cali



NumberSix -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/11/2008 11:03:42 PM)

animals strike curious poses.....

100% moaning?  a pastiche. Nay, you'll have none of me, nor dream of it, I warrant.

Vaya con Dios

Elixier Von Magellan 



Viridana -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/11/2008 11:35:51 PM)

I would post something of significance but I'm to busy laughing my ass off

Dude, If a grown woman needs "mentoring" to be able to communicate with normal people then her intellectual level is on a basis that needs a professional specialist guidance.



krikket -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/12/2008 3:27:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnnesMentor

I am mentoring a young, novice submissive, from a distance, to better equip her and prepare her to enter her local bdsm scene. She is learning about honor and integrity and is becoming more confident about herself with each passing day.


In my opinion honor and integrity aren't something that can be "taught" -- you either have them or not.  Self confidence is another matter altogether, not to be taught, but to see ourselves through someone's eyes, in a light that's more positive than negitive, can be a good thing. 

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At my request, she put a very clear message in her profile that she is in training and is temporarily not permitted to communicate with anyone. She stated that it's only for a short period. After that, I will encourage her to talk to others and will help her transition into her local community, and will teach her how to safely search for an honorable Dom.


This is probably the part of your post that disturbs me the most.  Why do you find it necessary to isolate her from others, even for a short period?  Knowledge can come from many sources and contact with others is certainly one way.  Isolation deprives her of finding out that there are many ways of doing things, that your way of doing things is only one of many. 

My first master, who was mainly on-line due to distance, wanted me to talk to and learn from others, and to discuss those ideas with him.  Those discussions were often fun, educational and stimulating, whether he agrees with those people or not.  It was a great way to learn more about him and about how our life experiences had shaped how we each viewed the D/s dynamic in our lives.  Looking back now, i can see that he was preparing me for our eventual split.  He expanded my mind, touched my soul and i'm a better person and sub because of him.
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In spite of the request in her profile that she not be contacted, she continually gets messages from other 'Doms' and informs me each time.

To me, with my background in the scene, these Doms are dishonoring both her and me.

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Having said all of that, i don't see how anyone is dishonoring you or her.  It's the internet and like someone else said, her addition to her profile about not speaking with anyone else, is like waving a red flag in front of a bull (sorry Doms..lol).

jimini



kiwisub12 -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/12/2008 3:54:13 PM)

Just as a matter of interest  -   if we all did agree the the OP and "his" girl were dishonoured - what then?      Does he report them to the Honor Police?  Is there an international authority in charge of bdsm protocol?

There is a good chance that most of the people interested in this topic wouldn't dishonour or disrespect another (maybe), therefore he is preaching to the perverted!  Waste of time thread.



YourhandMyAss -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/12/2008 3:58:26 PM)

Yes. this is the interent you can't expect any one to do or not do anything, even if you've stated not to. So there for get over it stop wasting energy and emotions on the actions of others on the internet and move on.


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ORIGINAL: AnnesMentor

To me, with my background in the scene, these Doms are dishonoring both her and me.

Comments?




juliaoceania -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/12/2008 4:10:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AnnesMentor

I am mentoring a young, novice submissive, from a distance, to better equip her and prepare her to enter her local bdsm scene. She is learning about honor and integrity and is becoming more confident about herself with each passing day.

At my request, she put a very clear message in her profile that she is in training and is temporarily not permitted to communicate with anyone. She stated that it's only for a short period. After that, I will encourage her to talk to others and will help her transition into her local community, and will teach her how to safely search for an honorable Dom.

In spite of the request in her profile that she not be contacted, she continually gets messages from other 'Doms' and informs me each time.

To me, with my background in the scene, these Doms are dishonoring both her and me.

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If she is not your submissive I fail to see how the replies are dishonoring to you. Do you expect respect from strangers?

You state that you want to help her enter her local community,are you a member of your own? I find it hard to see how you can mentor someone from a long distance on how to enter their local community. It would seem more advantageous for her to meet the people who run groups in her community, go to a munch or two, etc. It seems as though she would profit a lot more by having a friend that she could share messages with that would help her determine which ones were full of shit and who seemed genuine. I can tell you that when my Daddy and I first began talking he gave me a link to this site as an alternative to the one he contacted me on because there were more genuine people here. He did not want to read my emails, train me, or mentor me. He truly thought I was cool, whether we ended up together or not, and thought I could do better on this site.



ranja -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/17/2008 3:07:20 AM)

The best way to stop unwanted mail is for you both to hide your profiles for a while and do yer thing in cyber and when you get bored and she is wiser you un-hide your profiles agian and move on...
it seems you can still learn too mr Mentor



Huntertn -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/17/2008 4:53:20 PM)

well..welcome to the real world



VivaciousSub -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/17/2008 8:53:25 PM)

<FR>

This entire situation begs the saying that "a rational person cannot expect rationality from all others".

That said, you aren't her Master, and I fail to see how limiting her world view helps her in the learning process. It'd be one thing if you were training her AS HER MASTER, but you aren't. As a mentor, let her explore all that is out there and help her form her own thoughts and opinions about what it is that she learns by discussion. It's called the Socratic Method and makes for a great education.



JustDarkness -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/18/2008 12:30:46 AM)

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At my request, she put a very clear message in her profile that she is in training and is temporarily not permitted to communicate with anyone.


just an opinion. But  I find it weak when a "D" forbids a  "s" to contact others.
lack of trust.....
It is better to learn the "s" to say no...then to blame the D's
Some girls can't even speak to her friends anymore (which Is stupid from a "s" to accept also)

but perhaps I am wrong...but I hardly believe the other reasons..lol



blacksword404 -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/18/2008 1:00:43 AM)

Safe harbors are good but she has to come out of there sometime. And at that point she either needs to swim fast or be eaten.



GreedyTop -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/18/2008 1:07:08 AM)

*snort*



MistressOfGa -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/18/2008 7:43:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*snort*


Oh come on GT, you can at least drool alittle bit! [8D]



sirguym -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/20/2008 4:16:28 PM)

It is going to happen. That is the way people are. They will ignore others' boundaries and test them.

What is your problem? Really? OK, they're breaking 'your' rules? And those your girl proclaims she adheres to.

But they're going to push. That's human nature.

Complaining about it is as much use as complaining your trews get wet when you piss into the wind.

Grow up, live in the real world, quit complaining that shit happens.



SPnEroticaone -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/23/2008 3:11:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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To me, with my background in the scene, these Doms are dishonoring both her and me.


I think you are discovering that it is difficult to dominate strangers on-line.



what KL said



masterforRT -> RE: dishonoring a request (10/26/2008 1:49:04 AM)

This is yet another thing that I can't understand: "training" someone to be a submissive, while all the while having no responsibility for them-AND even worse, limiting their access to other Doms, some of who might be a better match for her!

I have a real problem with this on several levels.

First, why should you train her your way? Another Master might want her trained a different way, and you are only making more work for him! I have encountered plenty of trained subs that later I found to be incompatible with me, mainly because of their being trained differently then I would have done. 

Second, the whole "why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for free?" applies here. You are getting the 'milk' of the relationship (while stopping others from getting any), while at the same time it is clear that you offer no commitment whatsoever (no intention to buy the cow).

Instead, why not offer her advice about finding a Dom/Master that can offer her the commitment that you (obviously) aren't willing to?  She'll be much better off....



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