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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/13/2008 7:01:31 PM   
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A far left inexperienced, radical socialist whose friends are "out of the mainstream" to put it mildly, and include a guy who is a convicted felon ORIGINAL: corysub



Funny thing, who is doing the name calling?  Please provide one shred of evidence any of this is true.  All we have is name calling form the republicans and the retort of "we are skeptical" or "it is suspicious". 

Truth poor Cory whether you want to hear it or not.  That fanatical far right, ultra conservative, religious oriented portion of the GOP is not enough to get McCain elected.  The biggest mistake he made was not staying true to himself and pandering to them.  John McCain was always an honest man who seemed to try his best to do what he felt was right.  Something terrible happened to him during this process and he let himself be swayed into behavior that he always swore he wouldn't do.  He probably would have been better off to just let the far right pout and stay home as they swore to do on election day.  

Your answer is no there will be no life left after "W" leaves office.  We has left a huge path of destruction in his wake.  Fortunately the Phoenix will rise from the ashes and we can all work on rebuilding this nation.

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Tell me your kidding!!  A shred of evidence that the relationships of Barack Obama with Ayers, Wright, Rezko are true??    Have you done ANY reading about the background of Barack Obama.  You do know that his "casual neighbor" Mr. Ayers set off bombs in our country much like Usama Bin Laden people in Iraq and around the world.  Kinda qualifies Mr. Ayers as a terrorist, and his comments around the time of 9/11 show him to be unrepenting and, in fact, stated that they could have done more.  With respect to the good Rev. Wright, now I am not a bible thumping church going guy..but over the years from childhood till present I have never heard a priest, pastor, minister or Rabbi say "God damn America"...the "chickens are coming home to roost..and belch out anti-white sermons....or that nut job priest who did the shameful Hillary Clinton impersonation.  Tony Rezko relationship with Barack Obama is a fact.  Read the documents. Do some work. This is not a sophmore class in polysci..were you are spoon fed by an assistant ;professor. Now the evidence is building with respect to ACORN, a group that the Barack Obama campaign gave $800,000 for voter registration work has submitted thousands of bogus voter registrations, intimidated or coaxed people into signing registration forms in eleven states! 

You really don't want proof..you really don't want to hear facts. You have made up your mind about some fantasy person you hardly know to lead our country.  I must say, you know todays campaign talking points.  As Sarah would say..."betcha"....  :)  Take care....

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/13/2008 8:14:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The GOP has probably been gathering material about Clnton for years.  Obama's nomination was a surprise to them.

Had Clinton been the VP pick, McCain would have had no problem appealing to the conservative wing of the GOP.  They hate Clinton with passion, so there would have been no need to get someone as right wing as Palin. 

One of the ideas behind the picking of Plain (or another woman) was to woo the women that had been disaffected by Obama's non-pick of Clinton.  Had Clinton been the VP pick, I suspect that McCain would have gone with a man.

Given McCain's evident fondness for surprises and nonobvious moves, I suspect that he might have picked Lieberman.  That would appeal to the Jewish voters and substantiate McCain's claim to be willing to work across the aisle.


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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 7:13:38 AM   
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You poor delusional soul.  I actually have done a lot of reading.  Have you looked at anything but right wing blogs?

    Let me tell you a story.  My partners parents have a neighbor.  As neighbors sometimes do, they associated together were in one each others homes on occasion.  This had been going on for several years.  One day a group of policeman show up, enter the home walk out with a computer and the husband in handcuffs.  Child pornography.  Now by the whole line of reasoning you want to take we all must be guilty of child pornography as well.  Better yet we must do as the republicans have charged Obama with.  Prove your not guilty.  We do remember Palin having to change her remarks form "pallin around with" to "associated with".  Why?  Because they can't prove any of what they want you to think.

As far as the reverend. He's an idiot.  But he is far and away not the only idiot behind a pulpit.  I see people asking everywhere why that topic seems to be off limits to the McCain campaign.  Hello, she has her own idiot clergy and church in her closet. Or is it ok because they only talk about homosexuals and jews?  There have been several prominent clergy who called 911 God's wrath for homosexuals.  Is that ok with you?  Is McCain resposible for these comments because some of these people have given their supoprt to him?  My old father  in law was a minister.  He was also a horrible man and abused his children.  Did that make his congregation child abusers?

Now stop wasting peoples time untuil you come back with some proof that Obama has done something wrong.  You have only offered the same line the republican party has.  He has to be guilty because he knows them.

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 7:27:32 AM   
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The problem with the Dem ticket isn't who they put on the bottom. Hillary would have helped motivate the Repub base, but she would have locked in her own for Obama. The need to pick someone "historic" would have still been in play. Add the popularity (not) of the current administration. McCain needed someone with no ties to Bush, and either other than caucasion, or lacking a penis. He might have still gone with Sarah.




Hillary would have helped motivate the republican base? This might be true but maybe not in the way you intended. I agree with Ann Coulter when she said that Hillary was more of a conservative then John McCain. Frankly I would have welcomed her on the ticket (any ticket), then I'd have someone I could trust. As is I'm left without a party.


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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 7:41:16 AM   
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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 1:40:16 PM   
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Cory,

You poor delusional soul.  I actually have done a lot of reading.  Have you looked at anything but right wing blogs?

   Let me tell you a story.  My partners parents have a neighbor.  As neighbors sometimes do, they associated together were in one each others homes on occasion.  This had been going on for several years.  One day a group of policeman show up, enter the home walk out with a computer and the husband in handcuffs.  Child pornography.  Now by the whole line of reasoning you want to take we all must be guilty of child pornography as well.  Better yet we must do as the republicans have charged Obama with.  Prove your not guilty.  We do remember Palin having to change her remarks form "pallin around with" to "associated with".  Why?  Because they can't prove any of what they want you to think.

As far as the reverend. He's an idiot.  But he is far and away not the only idiot behind a pulpit.  I see people asking everywhere why that topic seems to be off limits to the McCain campaign.  Hello, she has her own idiot clergy and church in her closet. Or is it ok because they only talk about homosexuals and jews?  There have been several prominent clergy who called 911 God's wrath for homosexuals.  Is that ok with you?  Is McCain resposible for these comments because some of these people have given their supoprt to him?  My old father  in law was a minister.  He was also a horrible man and abused his children.  Did that make his congregation child abusers?

Now stop wasting peoples time untuil you come back with some proof that Obama has done something wrong.  You have only offered the same line the republican party has.  He has to be guilty because he knows them.

K



I am as pleased as your parents that their neighbor was found out and arrested for child pornography.  We are talking about serious political issues, but stealing the childhood from a young one is a crime that I believe demands castration and long imprisonment with some big Bubba serial rapist as a cellmate.  As far as anti-homosexual rantings from the pulpit or anywhere, I am totally in agreement with you...I am bi-sexual myself and have great friends who are gay...and terrible enemies who are straight...so it's not a question with me regarding your sexual preference..unless it's with children, watersports,  or dead bodies....

Getting back to Mr. Obama, and the "PROOF"!   Obviously, I don't think Barack is a bomber, that's never been the point of the discussion regarding Bill Ayers.  However, Obama had originally said his acquaintence with Ayers was a casual neighbor to neighbor relationship.  Do you remember those words?  However, what has come out in numerous sources (Google Ayers  Obama relatinship and you will get reams of reports)

It was actually Hillary Clinton who gave voice to the Ayers close relationship to Obama during the democrat primary, not McCain or Palin, Sean or Rush...Hillary noted that his friend Bill Ayers had as
 Politico noted:  "Clinton said she was concerned about Obama's association with Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground who Clinton pointed out said in an interview published on Sept. 11, 2001, that he didn't regret bombing government buildings. Obama quickly responded that Clinton's husband pardoned one member of Weather Underground and commuted the sentence of another."
 
So Obama's retort to Hillary was that her husband had commuted the sentence of another. An interesting none answer.
Obama said at another time:   "Bill Ayeres is a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."
Well...how many of us have "neighbors" who appoint us to be Chairman of their $100 million plus foundation..because of a casual "hiya" as you walk the dog?  Dunno where you live, but people here in New Jersey are a little more than "casual friends" with people in who they entrust tens of millions of dollars!
You can also google State of Illinois for grants given to this foundation when Obama was State Senator...again, probably as a good-will gesture becasue Ayers must have bought the girls ice cream one day...gimme a break!

Look, I know that you and so many others here are going to vote for Obama blindly and full of passion.  There is no way the "truth" about this man is of interest to you.  I understand that...but it's not you that is important here, it's the INDEPENDENT VOTER that has to be informed to make a judgement as to what ticket best represents their principles of government. 

Obama has no track record of achievement that would suggest he is qualified to lead the Executive Branch...show us some PROOF OF THAT!.. by the way...Until that is show, we can only base an opinion on his judgement in friendships.  Thus far, I have not heard one name of a Illinois friend over the past two decades that I would put on my Christmas card list..have you?  I would like to know...?? Or, as you so succinctly said, stop wasting peoples time"   Be well...

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 2:59:58 PM   
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Look, I know that you and so many others here are going to vote for Obama blindly and full of passion. .........
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Obama has no track record of achievement that would suggest he is qualified to lead the Executive Branch...show us some PROOF OF THAT!.. by the way...Until that is show, we can only base an opinion on his judgement in friendships.  Thus far, I have not heard one name of a Illinois friend over the past two decades that I would put on my Christmas card list..have you?  I would like to know...?? Or, as you so succinctly said, stop wasting peoples time"   Be well...



I cannot begin to tell you how tired I am of listening to you spout this nonsense in post after post.  It's really offensive to suggest that anyone who supports Obama is blindly loyal to him, doesn't know anything about him, doesn't acknowledge his shortcomings, and is voting for him only on celebrity appeal.  All of which you have said in various threads, including this one.

On another thread I posted for you his entire legislative record to make a judgement on.  Because, it is painfully obvious your only source of investigation into his credentials is Fox News and right-wing blogs and blowhards like Limbaugh.  I doubt, however, that you even looked at it.  Since you ignored his legislative history I'll present this:


Barack Obama sits on the following committees:
Member, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Chairman, Subcommittee on European AffairsMember, Subcommittee on African AffairsMember, Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific AffairsMember, Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental ProtectionMember, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions

Member, Subcommittee on Children and FamiliesMember, Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace SafetyMember, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Member, Subcommittee on Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and IntegrationMember, Subcommittee on InvestigationsMember, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International SecurityMember, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs(source: Govtrack.us) 


The only things I have ever seen you post are parroted attacks from the conservative media without any documentation.  As if just stating them somehow means they are fact and not innuendo and rumor.  

So if you truly believe all Obama supporters are totally ignorant of our own candidate I would like to challenge you to present proof and factual evidence of your claims.

By the way, would you care to debate McCain's choice of friends?  Last I heard, between William Ayers and Charles Keating there was only one convicted felon. 

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 3:16:00 PM   
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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/14/2008 5:07:28 PM   
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Look, I know that you and so many others here are going to vote for Obama blindly and full of passion. .........
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Obama has no track record of achievement that would suggest he is qualified to lead the Executive Branch...show us some PROOF OF THAT!.. by the way...Until that is show, we can only base an opinion on his judgement in friendships.  Thus far, I have not heard one name of a Illinois friend over the past two decades that I would put on my Christmas card list..have you?  I would like to know...?? Or, as you so succinctly said, stop wasting peoples time"   Be well...



I cannot begin to tell you how tired I am of listening to you spout this nonsense in post after post.  It's really offensive to suggest that anyone who supports Obama is blindly loyal to him, doesn't know anything about him, doesn't acknowledge his shortcomings, and is voting for him only on celebrity appeal.  All of which you have said in various threads, including this one.

On another thread I posted for you his entire legislative record to make a judgement on.  Because, it is painfully obvious your only source of investigation into his credentials is Fox News and right-wing blogs and blowhards like Limbaugh.  I doubt, however, that you even looked at it.  Since you ignored his legislative history I'll present this:


Barack Obama sits on the following committees:
Member, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Chairman, Subcommittee on European AffairsMember, Subcommittee on African AffairsMember, Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific AffairsMember, Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental ProtectionMember, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions

Member, Subcommittee on Children and FamiliesMember, Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace SafetyMember, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Member, Subcommittee on Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and IntegrationMember, Subcommittee on InvestigationsMember, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International SecurityMember, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs(source: Govtrack.us) 


The only things I have ever seen you post are parroted attacks from the conservative media without any documentation.  As if just stating them somehow means they are fact and not innuendo and rumor.  

So if you truly believe all Obama supporters are totally ignorant of our own candidate I would like to challenge you to present proof and factual evidence of your claims.

By the way, would you care to debate McCain's choice of friends?  Last I heard, between William Ayers and Charles Keating there was only one convicted felon. 


What a crock of BS....which is about all we get for liberals. 
McCain was exhonerated of any criminal complicity in the "Keating Five"..As usual, (this is for the independents out there)  you fail to mention that John Glenn, an Obama "friend and advisor" was also intimately associated with Mr. Keating.   (ABC News:  "In February 1991, after what Glenn has described as the low point of his life, the Senate Ethics Committee issued its final report, which stated Glenn had used poor judgment in the affair, but exonerated him of any wrong doing.)  You can find fuller reports on John Glenn at google.com 
And this is the issue with the Obama campaign and its minions...they lie, they hid facts, they attack others and call any attack on them a "distraction"...You are going to hear the word "distraction" from Mr. Obama everytime a republican exposes a truth about the man's background and lack of judgement.
 
 
Ok, with respect to all the committees Mr. Obama has been appointed to by the Senate Majority Leader. Obama has NEVER attended meetings for most of these committees, and has never called a meeting of the Afganistan oversight commitee of which he is Chairman.
You can shoe ME the proof of his attendance record. I'm tired of doing research for you guys.
 
Obama's legislative record..is a joke..or HE would be touting it...Hillary nailed him during the primary..all Obama has to contribute is "a speech given in 2001! 
 
I don't know where you get your information from...but I don't depend on TV stations which is obviously where you get your "research".  Hey..gotta go...it's 8PM and Keith Ubarmann is on....  jeeez..what a loser.
 

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/15/2008 9:38:30 AM   
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What a crock of BS....which is about all we get for liberals. 
McCain was exhonerated of any criminal complicity in the "Keating Five"..As usual, (this is for the independents out there)  you fail to mention that John Glenn, an Obama "friend and advisor" was also intimately associated with Mr. Keating.   (ABC News:  "In February 1991, after what Glenn has described as the low point of his life, the Senate Ethics Committee issued its final report, which stated Glenn had used poor judgment in the affair, but exonerated him of any wrong doing.)  You can find fuller reports on John Glenn at google.com 
And this is the issue with the Obama campaign and its minions...they lie, they hid facts, they attack others and call any attack on them a "distraction"...You are going to hear the word "distraction" from Mr. Obama everytime a republican exposes a truth about the man's background and lack of judgement.
 
 
Ok, with respect to all the committees Mr. Obama has been appointed to by the Senate Majority Leader. Obama has NEVER attended meetings for most of these committees, and has never called a meeting of the Afganistan oversight commitee of which he is Chairman.
You can shoe ME the proof of his attendance record. I'm tired of doing research for you guys.
 
Obama's legislative record..is a joke..or HE would be touting it...Hillary nailed him during the primary..all Obama has to contribute is "a speech given in 2001! 
 
I don't know where you get your information from...but I don't depend on TV stations which is obviously where you get your "research".  Hey..gotta go...it's 8PM and Keith Ubarmann is on....  jeeez..what a loser.
 


What I'm tired of is responding to your outrageous allegations that you put together from soundbites you hear on Fox news and conservative blogs without any effort to research whether they are true.

Let's begin with the "Afghanistan oversight committee".  There is no such thing.  It doesn't exist.

Find me proof that there is an Afghanistan Oversight Committee that Obama chairs and then we'll talk further.

Until then, you're only demonstrating my point that you only parrot the nonsense you hear from dubious sources without doing any independent research yourself.  Which, I believe is what you keep claiming all Obama supporters do. 

As far as the Keating scandal, McCain was investigated along with those convicted and, as you said, was cleared of criminal charges.  But I hardly think being rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committeee for improper judgement in a major financial scandal, that bears a remarkable resemblance to the current financial wrongdoing, is a badge of honor for him.

Which brings me back to one of my original questions.  How does Obama's acquaintance with someone never convicted of any charges overshadow the long relationship, both public and private, that McCain had with a convicted felon who helped cause one of the greatest financial catastrophes in this country's history?      


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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/15/2008 2:57:42 PM   
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Fantastic Post Rule,though if I were you I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a reply...were you to get one it would probably just be a regurgitation of the same old tune....it seems to be the only one he knows!!!
It is rather tedious, is it not? BHO has fulfilled all the constitutional requirements for the Presidency. I don't care that his pastor quoted a white guy ("...the chickens come home to roost..." in his sermon. I don't care that Ayers is an acquaintance of his (The hysterical righties seem to believe that the 6 year old BHO was making bombs with him or somethin'), and all this ACORN shit is a complete red herring. Just like all that goofy shit about him not being an American.

He's too far to the right for my taste, but I'll vote for him anyway.

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 6:44:20 AM   
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What a crock of BS....which is about all we get for liberals. 
McCain was exhonerated of any criminal complicity in the "Keating Five"..As usual, (this is for the independents out there)  you fail to mention that John Glenn, an Obama "friend and advisor" was also intimately associated with Mr. Keating.   (ABC News:  "In February 1991, after what Glenn has described as the low point of his life, the Senate Ethics Committee issued its final report, which stated Glenn had used poor judgment in the affair, but exonerated him of any wrong doing.)  You can find fuller reports on John Glenn at google.com 
And this is the issue with the Obama campaign and its minions...they lie, they hid facts, they attack others and call any attack on them a "distraction"...You are going to hear the word "distraction" from Mr. Obama everytime a republican exposes a truth about the man's background and lack of judgement.
 
 
Ok, with respect to all the committees Mr. Obama has been appointed to by the Senate Majority Leader. Obama has NEVER attended meetings for most of these committees, and has never called a meeting of the Afganistan oversight commitee of which he is Chairman.
You can shoe ME the proof of his attendance record. I'm tired of doing research for you guys.
 
Obama's legislative record..is a joke..or HE would be touting it...Hillary nailed him during the primary..all Obama has to contribute is "a speech given in 2001! 
 
I don't know where you get your information from...but I don't depend on TV stations which is obviously where you get your "research".  Hey..gotta go...it's 8PM and Keith Ubarmann is on....  jeeez..what a loser.
 


What I'm tired of is responding to your outrageous allegations that you put together from soundbites you hear on Fox news and conservative blogs without any effort to research whether they are true.

Let's begin with the "Afghanistan oversight committee".  There is no such thing.  It doesn't exist.

Find me proof that there is an Afghanistan Oversight Committee that Obama chairs and then we'll talk further.

Until then, you're only demonstrating my point that you only parrot the nonsense you hear from dubious sources without doing any independent research yourself.  Which, I believe is what you keep claiming all Obama supporters do. 

     


Hey...how's it hanging?  Sorry it took so long to get back but I was "making up" other stories and listening to Fox and reading conservative blogs.
As far as the "Afganistan Commitee"...I got my "outrageous allegations"  it from a well respected person whose politics is in sync with my conservative values.... I only wish she was at the top of the ticket!  Oh, guess I should mention that it was Hillary Clinton!

You might read through the Clinton/Obama debate...somewhere down the page you will find Hillary bringing up the fact that Obama NEVER held a hearing of his comittee.  His "excuse"..surprised he didn't say this was a "distraction"..his excuse was that he received this committee appointment at the beginning of his race for Presidency.  Sorry, I aplogize...screw the country, the hell with the men and woman sacrificing for us on that God forsaken battlefield..."Obama was running for President"...  I've got two words for Mr. Obama from the troops!

I know how you guys wait for the Obama email talking points and hate to do your own work so I have linked the debate for you to read.  Its a transcript from the New York Times so you know its totally accurate...Have a wonderful day y'all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/us/politics/26text-debate.html?_r=3&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 7:16:07 AM   
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Well...how many of us have "neighbors" who appoint us to be Chairman of their $100 million plus foundation..because of a casual "hiya" as you walk the dog?  Dunno where you live, but people here in New Jersey are a little more than "casual friends" with people in who they entrust tens of millions of dollars!

Proof of just how ill informed or down right deceitful you're being.

The Woods Fund and Annenberg Challenge boards, the two boards where Ayers and Obama served, are neither run by nor headed by Ayers. In both cases someone else chose both men to sit on the board. In the case of the Annenberg board that decision maker was either Annenberg himself, major figure in Republican party politics and ambassador under Reagan, or someone who he chose to make decisions.

So why not get your facts right rather than listening to Hannity?

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 7:32:53 AM   
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SO let's see how much of this you continually refer to has merit. The Annenburg Foundation....hmmm...Ambassador Annenburg served under which President?
Ronald Reagan.... Who served on the board along with Ayres and Obama? The President of the University of Illinois...perhaps He is also a terrorist? Or maybe Raymond Romero the General counsel to Ameritech ( Baby Bell...aka THE PHONE COMPANY) and we all know what radicals come from the phone company....A Managing Director of one of the larger banks...a publisher of the Chicago Tribune....Watch out! media member....
Damn, now I am worried....all those conservative types on that board with Obama and Ayres.....you don't think they'd influence the 2 of them so much they will defect to the Republican party do you? And just think they all met to do the unthinkable....improve public education....I am shocked!....what a horrible thought....improving public education....can you imagine...our schools improving? we would all hate that now wouldn't we?.....All those subversives in one group....the world just wouldn't be safe!...

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 7:52:11 AM   
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LOL I see corey is still kicking the same dead animal as his usual posts.....will never agree to what he says but, he is unbelievably consistent.
SO let's see how much of this you continually refer to has merit. The Annenburg Foundation....hmmm...Ambassador Annenburg served under which President?
Ronald Reagan.... Who served on the board along with Ayres and Obama? The President of the University of Illinois...perhaps He is also a terrorist? Or maybe Raymond Romero the General counsel to Ameritech ( Baby Bell...aka THE PHONE COMPANY) and we all know what radicals come from the phone company....A Managing Director of one of the larger banks...a publisher of the Chicago Tribune....Watch out! media member....
Damn, now I am worried....all those conservative types on that board with Obama and Ayres.....you don't think they'd influence the 2 of them so much they will defect to the Republican party do you? And just think they all met to do the unthinkable....improve public education....I am shocked!....what a horrible thought....improving public education....can you imagine...our schools improving? we would all hate that now wouldn't we?.....All those subversives in one group....the world just wouldn't be safe!...



Dern it..ya got me!

Ohhh. I love quizzes..

1.  What president did Ambassador Annenberg serve:  hmmm..thinking..Ronald Reagan?

Can I ask you a question now...Did Ambassador Annenberg give the money to terrorist Ayers or was he DEAD
at the time?

2.  Who served on the Board of Bill Ayers Annenberg Challange....hmmmm...since it was a "matching grant
    of almost $50 million, I would think since Ayers was a professor, and this was a grant to foster education...my
    guess is he would try to bring in plain vanilla leading educators...ohh..and maybe appoint a "casual neighbor   
    friend" named Obama to be Chairman of the Board and run the $100,000,000 plus deal.  Actually, turned out
    pretty good. Really surprised that Ayers would offer a Board seat to the President of the Univeristy of
    Illinois..I don't remember..where does Ayers work..and who is his boss? 
    By the way, I owned a house with pretty bad floors...looked great after I put down wall to wall carpets..but the
    floor was still rotten...dern it. 
3.  The purpose of the grant was to improve public education: Great idea...well needed too!  And what programs
    did Bill Ayers and Obama fund with these monies?  You do the research..I'm to busy looking at Fox.

     Just another guys opinon:   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122411943821339043.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 7:57:46 AM   
DomKen


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Status: offline 		Annenberg died in 2002. Obama and Ayers served on the board in the 90's.

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 8:05:18 AM   
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Well...how many of us have "neighbors" who appoint us to be Chairman of their $100 million plus foundation..because of a casual "hiya" as you walk the dog?  Dunno where you live, but people here in New Jersey are a little more than "casual friends" with people in who they entrust tens of millions of dollars!

Proof of just how ill informed or down right deceitful you're being.

The Woods Fund and Annenberg Challenge boards, the two boards where Ayers and Obama served, are neither run by nor headed by Ayers. In both cases someone else chose both men to sit on the board. In the case of the Annenberg board that decision maker was either Annenberg himself, major figure in Republican party politics and ambassador under Reagan, or someone who he chose to make decisions.

So why not get your facts right rather than listening to Hannity?


Do yourself and your reputation for valued thought some assistance and just "google" Bill Ayers and his request for a grant from the Annenberg Foundation, and his receipt of something a bit over $49 million.  Do you really think that I get my information from Sean Hannity..great guy by the way...when there are tons of data, reports, essays, newspaper archives, just a "click" away.  You should try pure research sometime....it's a great way to make points at a cocktail party...

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 8:15:16 AM   
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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 8:21:33 AM   
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Let's begin with the "Afghanistan oversight committee".  There is no such thing.  It doesn't exist.

Find me proof that there is an Afghanistan Oversight Committee that Obama chairs and then we'll talk further.

Until then, you're only demonstrating my point that you only parrot the nonsense you hear from dubious sources without doing any independent research yourself.  Which, I believe is what you keep claiming all Obama supporters do. 

   


Hey...how's it hanging?  Sorry it took so long to get back but I was "making up" other stories and listening to Fox and reading conservative blogs.
As far as the "Afganistan Commitee"...I got my "outrageous allegations"  it from a well respected person whose politics is in sync with my conservative values.... I only wish she was at the top of the ticket!  Oh, guess I should mention that it was Hillary Clinton!

You might read through the Clinton/Obama debate...somewhere down the page you will find Hillary bringing up the fact that Obama NEVER held a hearing of his comittee.  His "excuse"..surprised he didn't say this was a "distraction"..his excuse was that he received this committee appointment at the beginning of his race for Presidency.  Sorry, I aplogize...screw the country, the hell with the men and woman sacrificing for us on that God forsaken battlefield..."Obama was running for President"...  I've got two words for Mr. Obama from the troops!

I know how you guys wait for the Obama email talking points and hate to do your own work so I have linked the debate for you to read.  Its a transcript from the New York Times so you know its totally accurate...Have a wonderful day y'all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/us/politics/26text-debate.html?_r=3&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin


I know, you've got to stop doing that Fox thing.  It'll warp your mind.

In case you haven't read your own link, you just provided the proof there is no "Afghanistan Oversight Committee".

Which also provides the proof that you listen to too many biased conservative sources because this was a piece of misinformation started by one of the conservative talking heads that got spread by conservative blogs and eventually parroted on here by you.

SEN. CLINTON:
"But I also have heard Senator Obama refer continually to Afghanistan, and he references being on the Foreign Relations Committee. He chairs the Subcommittee on Europe. It has jurisdiction over NATO. NATO is critical to our mission in Afghanistan." 

It was a tortured argument even when she made it.  The point being, his committee has only a very convulated, indirect authority over anything that goes on in Afghanistan. 

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RE: V.P. Running Mates - 10/16/2008 8:25:36 AM   
SilverMark


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Status: offline 		LoL....do your homework corey....Ayres didn't appoint anyone....nor did Obama appoint Ayres....Love your floors however....Your continual harping on Ayres is pointless....and you rarely deviate from the same old song and dance....but hey, who's going to notice?....If you are interested in the "vanilla" educators the lists are certainly available I read them, and if you are that interested I am sure you will as well.  But wouldn't wish to muddle the issue for you with facts that aren't Hannity approved.
Just keep kicking that dead horse!....something is bound to come out of it yet...

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