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1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:19:10 PM   
cravinspankin


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I want to thank each and every one of you who responded to my earlier post.
I had actually already given him an answer when i posted this to a yahoo group I'm in, and then decided to post it here.
I did so, because i thought it was an important topic of discussion, particularly for any new, inexperienced Doms or subs who may be reading.
You all brought up some wondeful points and issues to consider.
Below, you will find my response to him... and what he had to say in return when i told him NO.
I DID tell him NO, for several reasons.
I am still relatively new to the lifestyle, but have been fortunate to come to know several Doms and Dommes, who have given me the honor of bottoming with them from time to time. I also have done a great deal of research on the lifestyle, including lots and lots of reading, and a great deal of talking with experienced Doms and subs, both.
So... while i long for a Dom to serve, I am in no way desperate for a Dom's attention, and in no way will I ever risk my own health and safety to get that kind of attention.
Among the reasons i said no:
1. I do not know him. We had had one talk on the phone, after a couple very brief E-mail exchanges. That didn't give me enough of a feel for him and his personality to agree to meet privately.
2. He indicated that only if I agreed to this meeting would we talk further. That indicates he has no respect for any concerns I may have, and also indicates that he probably has bad intentions.
3. I had already told him that I was interested in bondage, but had never done it, and that that is something that would take a great deal of trust in someone to agree to, which takes time. He chose to ignore that. Big red flag for me. If he ignored that, he might possible ignore safe words which, by the way, were never discussed.
There are other reasons as well, but those are the primary ones.

I posted his request for me to meet him.
The following is my response to him, again, it was an immediate decision.
Afterward, you will find what he had to say to me in return.

(me)
> Wow.
> i'm a little stunned.
> i really liked you when we talked yesterday. You seemed different from most Doms/Masters that I've talked to, in a very good way. We seemed to want much of the same out of the lifestyle.
> However.... I can't believe that a Dom with any experience at all would insist that the very first meeting be at his place and include bondage and play.
> I may be new to the lifestyle.. but I'm well versed in safety issues.
> There's no way I'd meet a Dom for the first time under those circumstances.
> I haven't ever even tried bondage.. i've said it's something i'm very interested in, BUT something i would have to have real trust in a Dom to allow that.
> There's no way i can have enough trust in ANY Dom on the first meeting to consent to that.
> Also... I am now under the protection of MsDawn, and she does not allow me to play any longer with Anyone until she has talked to them and checked their references... I am ever vigilant about my own safety these days.
> Quite honestly, I read your message twice and both times thought, *DANGER*
> I seek a Dom, yes, even a Master... but i also seek a man of integrity and one i can trust completely.
> If you are a man of integrity, you will understand my concerns.
> regards
> Steph

HIM
> you are one sick puppy...not only to you have a serious defect ...you are bi...not only are you fat as hell and my dog is more attractive..your a idiotic...take care and hope we never meet...Jim---------------------------------------------------

NOTE: the defect he referred to is a medical condition that I told him about, which most people will never notice, but which i felt any Dom should know about, because sometimes it does affect their decision to pursue a relationship. i care not to reveal what that is here, but knew the question regarding "defect" would come up.
Also.... the bi issue. LOL.. I cracked up at that. I told him i was bicurious but had never done that.

Anyway... Thank you all again, truly, for your responses and concern. I hoped that today we helped maybe 1 inexperienced Dom or 1 experienced sub consider some of these issues when deciding to meet someone.
Many hugs to all
cravin
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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:25:40 PM   
truesub4u


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cravinspankin

1. I do not know him. We had had one talk on the phone, after a couple very brief E-mail exchanges. That didn't give me enough of a feel for him and his personality to agree to meet privately.
2. He indicated that only if I agreed to this meeting would we talk further. That indicates he has no respect for any concerns I may have, and also indicates that he probably has bad intentions.
3. I had already told him that I was interested in bondage, but had never done it, and that that is something that would take a great deal of trust in someone to agree to, which takes time. He chose to ignore that. Big red flag for me. If he ignored that, he might possible ignore safe words which, by the way, were never discussed.
There are other reasons as well, but those are the primary ones.

I posted his request for me to meet him.
The following is my response to him, again, it was an immediate decision.
Afterward, you will find what he had to say to me in return.

(me)
> Wow.
> i'm a little stunned.
> i really liked you when we talked yesterday. You seemed different from most Doms/Masters that I've talked to, in a very good way. We seemed to want much of the same out of the lifestyle.
> However.... I can't believe that a Dom with any experience at all would insist that the very first meeting be at his place and include bondage and play.
> I may be new to the lifestyle.. but I'm well versed in safety issues.
> There's no way I'd meet a Dom for the first time under those circumstances.
> I haven't ever even tried bondage.. i've said it's something i'm very interested in, BUT something i would have to have real trust in a Dom to allow that.
> There's no way i can have enough trust in ANY Dom on the first meeting to consent to that.
> Also... I am now under the protection of MsDawn, and she does not allow me to play any longer with Anyone until she has talked to them and checked their references... I am ever vigilant about my own safety these days.
> Quite honestly, I read your message twice and both times thought, *DANGER*
> I seek a Dom, yes, even a Master... but i also seek a man of integrity and one i can trust completely.
> If you are a man of integrity, you will understand my concerns.
> regards
> Steph



BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You Make Us Proud.... nasty trick you pulled makingme think you was even thinking about it... but great come back...

Best of luck to you in your search... and keep that head on straight!

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:29:56 PM   
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Well, he's not a nice person, in general.
I'm glad you avoided him.


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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:36:55 PM   
sub4hire


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Apparently he is a child who threw a tantrum when he didn't get his way.

Who wants a dom you have to dom?

You made the right decision.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:38:24 PM   
justatoy2


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this person obviously had no respect for you and just wanted someone he could tie up and beat on. Think what might have happened if you had met with him *shivers. When brand new to this it is important that you keep yourself safe. Bravo and good luck to you in the future. There are plenty of doms out there that would gladly work with you knowing you are new, and take it slow...

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:41:02 PM   
sunshine333


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... laughs ...

"one sick puppy"

gotta love that.

~sunshine

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 3:43:31 PM   
KatyLied


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I can't stand the drama of dealing with those types of tantrums. And the people who throw them are always the ones that warn you "no drama, I can't stand drama, blah blah."

And that comment about being bi. How un, erm, domly of him.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:19:10 PM   
Marquisd


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applaudes****

you get three stars from the sadistic corner :)

nice way to handle that indeed.........in the end all personalities will come through and his sure did as well.

play on the first meet AND in a private place - chit I wouldn't do that meeting a sub/bottom/slave either.

I am glad though he pointed out the defect - considering you only have one and there have to be at least 300 wires missing in his body I think that was a compliment to you :)

keep on trucking - you made me smile with your post

thanks

cheers

Marquisd

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:27:08 PM   
fldrkhorse


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Prudence. You've seen his true colors, learned a lesson, and lived to help another.

I tip my hat to you.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:32:02 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Huzzah. Just to point out this is what I wrote in my initial reply:

Yes it could be ridiculous and you never see him again (the most likely).

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:41:51 PM   
mnottertail


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Dear LA(ES, EM),

A B.A. in Philosophy, and you don't even deign use an exclamation point to terminate a Huzzah?

That is plainly ...... deception. Or you may be seriously jaded......

LMAO,
Ron

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:44:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fldrkhorse

Prudence. You've seen his true colors, learned a lesson, and lived to help another.

I tip my hat to you.



yes dear one, should I tell you about the Dom in St Louis who was killing subs and putting them in 55 gallon drums?? Safe, sassy and sane.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:49:01 PM   
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I commend you on standing your ground. You now know you did the right thing. He very well could have hurt you. With the tantrum he threw, I would think him to be dangerous.When I read that conversation, my red flag popped up..

I still have to weed through them all but I now have a safeguard.. I am serving a Grand Mistress <might have stated this before> and she will have a say in who I decide to be with. More opinions the better.

Those I find who are not pushy, but let you take your time to get in your comfort zone and want to meet in public, are the ones you want to look at more closely.


Good luck..you are doing greeat..

Respectfully,
sultry


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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:52:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sultryvoice
I would think him to be dangerous.When I read that conversation, my red flag popped up..

He doesn't type well enough to be dangerous. He's probably inept and lazy, but that's about it.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:58:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


quote:

ORIGINAL: sultryvoice
I would think him to be dangerous.When I read that conversation, my red flag popped up..

He doesn't type well enough to be dangerous. He's probably inept and lazy, but that's about it.


Yes, and Ted Bundy didnt look like he was dangerous, just the boy next door.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 4:59:14 PM   
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LOL MH,


55 gallon drums? That ain't very efficient.
He musta been after the big girls, cause usually when I get done with 'em, they fit in the 25 gallon ones, of course I am a little careful too!!

LOL,
Ron

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 5:09:43 PM   
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quote:

Yes, and Ted Bundy didnt look like he was dangerous, just the boy next door.


Be careful of the man with his arm in a sling.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 5:15:20 PM   
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Huzzah, Steph!

See, Ron, *I* use exclamation points freely!

:)Francine!

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 5:30:55 PM   
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did well. Anyone who can't understand you not agreeing to a compomising position where you can be held completly and totaly helpless on first meeting, hell even second third or beyond, isn't worth bothering with. Bondage, gags, anything that leaves you helpless is perfectly understandable untill you build trust. Dangerous things like knife play even more so.

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RE: 1st meeting with Dom - My answer to him - 12/8/2005 5:43:06 PM   
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To Cravin:

WOW.... takes all kinds huh? Ha ha, he even resorted to name-calling.

Thanks for sharing that experience with us.

Fondly,
CT

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