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corysub -> RE: CBS says Obama leads McCain by 14 points (10/15/2008 7:16:52 AM)
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Rather than "quote" all of the rebutals to my comments...I will just post the link below so as not to totally bore anyone who cares to read this.http://www.collarchat.com/m.asp?m=2205762&mpage=1&key= Re: Saul Alinksy: Wrong choice of words, my using Mentor to describe Obama's relationship with Alinsky...more, he was a hero and I should have taken a course in creative writing I guess. it was Hillary who actually met Alinsky but Obama "out Alinsky'd her in fully implementing what he had learned on the payroll of Alinsky Chicago disciples for four years learning about the art of "community organizing". Interesting bedfellows the young Harvard lawyer chose to learn his artform. It continues with his choice of a radical church Pastor, a terrorist bomber, a convicted felon. Maybe it's me..but that "birds of a feather" thingy resonates with me... and maybe the public as well. Scary thought for the liberals. One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an Ryan Lizza of The New Republic, about Obama:
"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."
The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease. Gosh...must be me but it sounds all to familiar. I wonder how many of those ardent early supporters of the charismatic Obama had any idea with whom they were casting their lot?...not too many I would imagine..since if finally is starting to be aired thanks to ACORN and the investigations of registration fraud currently underway in 14 states. It's going to be an interesting three weeks of discovery. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/bobamasunlikelypoliticaledu.html http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5508 Obama "computer commercial": Was taken off the air after the public scorn. McCain "can't type"...he can't keep his hands up in that position due to the bones broken while a prisoner....and as far as McCain not knowing how to send an email....well, that sure lowers the bar for Obama, one of the few things he can probably execute...This is more a "shame on you Obama" comment...which most people would agree. Four more years of Bush is the rallying cry...one wonders if the liberal left would be totally mute if it wasn't for Georgie? Obama keeps saying that McCain voted over 90% of the time with Bush....but fails to say HE voted 96% of the time WITH HIS PARTY!...Some agent of CHANGE! And that's when he did vote...having missed over 300 votes in the last Congress..46%! And study this comes from that obvious right wing extremist newspaper..The Washington Post! http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/
Obama is not a Marxist: Marxist no...socialist yes. Obama wants to "spread the wealth" take it from people who work their asses off and give it to people because the "deserve it". the NEW American way..."to each according to their needs"....yea...gimme a break!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/13/obama-plumber-plan-spread-wealth/
What has Obama done that is illegal with respect to ACORN: Once upon a time there was another guy from Chicago. He was a very bad person but they finally got him on "tax evasion". I said I disagree with Obama's philosophy..never said he was stupid. I think his IQ was quoted at 130...but i'm sure you will correct me.With respect to ACORN...it's more than a "casual relationship"...having been their general counsel, a trainer of senior staff for some undefined period, directing State and Ayers Anenberg Foundation money to the group...or one of its numerous sub groups...as well as giving over $800,000 to this group to help fund "voter registration activities"...a group that is now under investigation in 14 States. So lets see...I see a man who was trained in the Alinsky style of community organizing, a man whose friendships are guys that include "unrepented" 1960 bombers (any difference between Ayers and Usama?)..a radical Pastor for twenty years who damns America and seems delighted to see "the chickens finally come home to roost", and convicted felon who was kinda helpful in a little real estate deal for the "familymansion propert". I wonder who among his circle of powerful friends we don't see or know who will be made members of the cabinet in an Obama Adminstration, head of the CIA..FBI with all their "juicy files" ready to be opened to whomever this man appoints. Now that is scary. Excuse me..Again, of all these threads and posts...aside from his radical philsophy of governent, not one Obama supporter has shown any evidence that this man can run anything...Even Obama points to his "running of a huge campaign for President" as an experience worthy of a Presidential resume!..So running for office is HIS qualifcation for the office? I guess so in his case..you have to go with your strength.
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