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Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 7:26:33 AM   
addcted2it


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Status: offline 		Let's face it, we all have pet peeves (or peeved pets). One of mine is the use of "dominate" rather than "dominant." I know, I know...you've heard it all before.

For instance, one wouldn't say, "I would like to meet a dominate woman." They would say, "I want to meet a dominant woman." After all, the word "dominate" (as in to dominate) is a verb, while "dominant" (he or she is a dominant) is a noun. And as far as I know, the two words are not interchangeable.

The misuse of a word is not necessarily bad in itself, but it does serve to demonstrate that the writer is unfamiliar with the correct usage of grammar, and probaby not familiar with the terminology of the subject matter that he or she is writing about.

If I am ranting and nitpicking here, I do apologize. However, having said that, improper usage, along with poor spelling, makes for a very bad first impression.


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 7:29:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's my pet peeve too. Especially when the one making the mistake is dominate. Ooops...dominant.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 7:39:12 AM   
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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 8:10:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		that is one of my peeves also...along with:

sub - It's a sandwich or an underwater boat!
subbie - sounds like a baby bath toy
submissive - it's an adjective folks.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 8:12:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elegant

that is one of my peeves also...along with:

sub - It's a sandwich or an underwater boat!
subbie - sounds like a baby bath toy
submissive - it's an adjective folks.

I'm ok with sub and using submissive as a noun. But I'm right there with you on the subbie.

Also "sis" or "sissy" when not used in the "male sissy fetish" context.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 8:15:37 AM   
Noah


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Status: offline 		Okay. You've got somebody who bolluxes up these two words.

Is this likely to be a somebody who is going to latch right on to and benefit from a parts-of-speech diagram?

How many subs writing missives with this sort of ungrammaticality can define noun and verb and use both in a sentence, in shibari suspension, with Strunk and White shoved up their nearby orifices, I submit, respectively?

There has to be a better way.

At least I hope so because the only thing worse than the creeping institutionalization of this piece of linguistic ignorance is repetitive-despite-having-been-proven-worthless public hair-pulling over it.

Not that there's anything wrong with hair pulling, mind.

I know though. I feel your pain, if only metaphorically. It makes me go nucular too.

Or ... if you can't beat 'em, fuck 'em.

I hereby offer a prize to the post with the bestest and mostest and cleverest substitutions of noun and verb forms.

Who'll be first to sashay up to the board?




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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 8:16:10 AM   
LadiesBladewing


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Status: offline 		To take this a step further...

From a point of view of being gramatically correct, dominant and submissive are primarily -adjectives-, not nouns. Therefore, the correct form in English would rarely have "dominant" and never have "submissive" standing as the subject of a sentance.

Though the dictionary lists "dominant" as a colloquial noun in 3 cases ( the use of "dominant" in limited populations, where dominant person is "shortcutted", replacing the whole phrase with "dominant" but still implies the adjective form; in science, when discussing dominant alleles, and only immediately preceding or anteceding a sentance in which the entire form is defined; and in music, when discussing dominant means a particular note {the 5th} in a diatonic scale) there is actually an inferred subject present in all these cases.

Submissive is strictly an adjective, except in the colloquial useage in the BDSM population. The noun useage in that population has yet to be recognized by any etymological resource.

I enjoy a good nit-pick every now and again. *grins* If we're going to nit-pick on grammar, let's nit-pick all the way. *tongue firmly planted in cheek*

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ORIGINAL: addcted2it

Let's face it, we all have pet peeves (or peeved pets). One of mine is the use of "dominate" rather than "dominant." I know, I know...you've heard it all before.

For instance, one wouldn't say, "I would like to meet a dominate woman." They would say, "I want to meet a dominant woman." After all, the word "dominate" (as in to dominate) is a verb, while "dominant" (he or she is a dominant) is a noun. And as far as I know, the two words are not interchangeable.

The misuse of a word is not necessarily bad in itself, but it does serve to demonstrate that the writer is unfamiliar with the correct usage of grammar, and probaby not familiar with the terminology of the subject matter that he or she is writing about.

If I am ranting and nitpicking here, I do apologize. However, having said that, improper usage, along with poor spelling, makes for a very bad first impression.


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 9:40:56 AM   
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I hereby offer a prize to the post with the bestest and mostest and cleverest substitutions of noun and verb forms.

Who'll be first to sashay up to the board?




Master was in a dungeon that had many rooms. There was a submissive waiting for him in each of the rooms. He performed in rooms one through seven, but became fatigued and found that he could not dominate.


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 10:03:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes




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Master was in a dungeon that had many rooms. There was a submissive waiting for him in each of the rooms. He performed in rooms one through seven, but became fatigued and found that he could not dominate.


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 10:10:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		According to Merriam-Webster, 10th Edition, neither "Dominant" nor "submissive" are nouns. However, their usage as nouns in the world of BDSM is common, understood, and necessary.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 10:16:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		those are -also- among my pet peeves.

My other one? being called "sis' by anyone not biologically related to me. Ick.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 10:51:26 AM   
sunshine333


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Status: offline 		oh! i am so with you on this one! people are not (cannot be) "dominate."

and the whole subbie sissy poo crap. yuck! i can't stand baby talk.

and ... is it really that difficult to write complete, coherent sentences? i am still amazed that many cannot do this. i mean ... i know i'm no scholar, but, i'm fairly certain that people don't have to read my writings 2 or 3 times and still scratch their head wondering if what i said was in english.

and apparantly typing a complete word is challenging for some as well ... u2 ... cul8er ... etc. blah!

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 10:57:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		hiya sunshine333...nice to see you here. Yes bad grammar is not an attractive trait in a Man; i probably could not be with a Man whose command of the English language was so rudimentary He was semi-literate.

And Yes, it is annoying whwn a Man say "i'm a dominate" rather than "i'm a dominant". However, i look further to ascertain whether this Man simply has a mistaken idea of the proper wordage, or is in fact semi-literate.

i am not willing to spend a lot of time, trying to parse out meaning in a post or email. If it's that poorly written, i know this is not the right Man for me.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 11:12:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Attack of the Grammar Nazis!!!
Okay, you have a point. It all makes cents.
I am definitley one of those who tends to violate the rules of grammar. I leave participles dangling all over the place. My sentences run on and on and on and on and on. I Capitalize when I shouldn't. If I use a comma, it , is probably in the wrong place. I have murdered the english language more than once. What can I say I am heartless. Next I will post in 1337 speak. Or I can do IM chat and ask how r u?

Yes, you are correct proper grammar is much nicer to deal with. Proper grammar, however is not a pet peeve of mine.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 11:15:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		one of my peeves (and goddess knows how I can't spell or anything) is this:

a dominate women -- eek!



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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 11:21:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Understudy

I leave participles dangling all over the place

Brendhan


You should get those participles looked at. Catching one of them on the corner of something in passing could hurt!

Tasha

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 12:19:01 PM   
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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 12:28:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		This thread is good, I'll Xerox it.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 2:13:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: candystripper

"Sends everyone to the Electric Company; so we can learn such things as 'conjunction junction'."

candystripper


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I prefer Bob the Angry Flower.
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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 2:20:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got a degree in English; I don't think I have to say any more

But I've got several grammar texts I'd be glad to loan out for spanking purposes.

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