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Ultimate Trust - 10/17/2008 12:46:43 PM   
kristileigh


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Status: offline 		i trust Master, in fact i trust Master with my life. i have always trusted Master, but last night i experienced ultimate trust. Last night W/we were engaging in breath play, the breath play started with some pretty deep , intense kissing. Master then covered my nose and sealed my mouth with His. Master looked down at me and said "you know you can take a breath from Me if you want."Wow! No wonder i trust Master so much. So yes, i did take a breath from Him.

My question is ........has there been a point when you have experienced ultimate trust with your Master or Mistress?

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/17/2008 2:49:40 PM   
spanishkitten


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Status: offline 		RE: My question is ........has there been a point when you have experienced ultimate trust with your Master or Mistress?
 
Every time we play, every time his hand covers my nose and mouth, every time I feel his knife slide across my skin, every time I feel the slap of his crop across my bottom. Every time. Without ultimate trust there is nothing.
 
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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/17/2008 3:05:41 PM   
mbes


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Status: offline 		Sure, I trust him. I fall asleep beside him every night, even the ones he's really really mad at me, and he hasn't suffocated me in my sleep yet! (I'm quite sure he's been tempted!)

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/17/2008 5:27:01 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Oh, I experienced that years ago, I have now moved on to Penultimate Trust.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/17/2008 6:09:34 PM   
catize


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When R. sits me on the couch, picks up the remote and says "You'll like this movie."  I have perfect trust that I'm gonna hate it. 

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/17/2008 8:06:27 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		One of my only weaknesses is that I always pick crappy movies to rent.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/18/2008 4:44:33 PM   
catize


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

One of my only weaknesses is that I always pick crappy movies to rent.


Great! You are invited to watch movies with R while I read a book!   (or maybe I should do something sub-like)

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/18/2008 5:24:52 PM   
kallisto


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ORIGINAL: mbes

Sure, I trust him. I fall asleep beside him every night, even the ones he's really really mad at me, and he hasn't suffocated me in my sleep yet! (I'm quite sure he's been tempted!)


I love this response

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/18/2008 5:39:05 PM   
DavanKael


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Status: offline 		Adding my words to kallisto's: mbes's response rocks!  Truly, it's a simple thing that people don't often think about but sleep is a time of such vulnerability. 
  Davan

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 12:42:18 AM   
porcelain26


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Status: offline 		I trust my Owner without hesitation or reservation, but I can't pinpoint a single instance which brought about the deep trust I have in Him. I can give you several examples, but not one specific incident. He and I have been together for 10 years, that kind of trust was built over time. He has literally seen me at (not to mention through) my worst moments and He's still here. That in and of itself is enough to make me put all my trust in Him. Very few men seem to be able to deal with my particular brand of 'crazy', but Master not only deals with it, but understands it fully and can explain it to me in a way that makes me feel 'not crazy'. Can ya tell I adore this Man? hehehe

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 2:29:06 AM   
Talandra


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Status: offline 		Hey porcelain and mbse
                    @ porcelain your brand of crazy is that you are crazy about your Owner. Welcome to the club hun.
@mbse Super response, talandra hopes it is that way for all.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 6:15:54 AM   
colouredin


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Status: offline 		For me the ultimate trust isnt letting him put his hand over my mouth or sticking needles into me, that means nothing really. For me the ultimate trust is telling him I love him, introducing him to the people I love. Its the day to day stuff that matters.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 6:17:45 AM   
LaTigresse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DavanKael

Adding my words to kallisto's: mbes's response rocks!  Truly, it's a simple thing that people don't often think about but sleep is a time of such vulnerability. 
Davan


I had to smile when I read that response also. And yes, we are all vulnerable when we are sleeping aren't we. I wonder if that is one of the subconcious reasons I've always allowed my dogs to sleep in my bedroom and/or on the bed. Guarding me while I sleep.

As for the OP, remember that the desire to trust and be trusted lies on both sides of the slash.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 12:06:48 PM   
leadership527


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quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin
For me the ultimate trust isnt letting him put his hand over my mouth or sticking needles into me, that means nothing really. For me the ultimate trust is telling him I love him, introducing him to the people I love. Its the day to day stuff that matters.


yup, that.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 2:49:09 PM   
mbes


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I had to smile when I read that response also. And yes, we are all vulnerable when we are sleeping aren't we. I wonder if that is one of the subconcious reasons I've always allowed my dogs to sleep in my bedroom and/or on the bed. Guarding me while I sleep.

As for the OP, remember that the desire to trust and be trusted lies on both sides of the slash.

Whew! I was afraid I'd get bitten for that response, true as it feels to me!
But yeah... not only does he fall asleep next to me every night as well (which must be a scary proposition sometimes, given my temper!) he eats my cooking. And he's still around as well.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/19/2008 7:59:40 PM   
tsatske


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Status: offline 		I do understand what the OP meant, but I understand that thing about it that I think some are trying to say to her.
We don't have good language for this (and many things) in English. There are moments where you feel things more intensely, they feel 'ultimate'. Those moments are important, they help us grow together.
They are not, in fact, actually, very ultimate. But they are important, emotionally.
The way it felt to her, to do breath play, the intensity of 'taking her breath from him', was important in their growth together.
The problem with English only giving us the word 'ultimate' to describe this is that, if you are lucky, in a good, funcitioning relationships, you will have many such moments of epiphany.
And they still won't be as 'ultimate' as doing the laundry. But they are intense, and important to us emotionally and in our growth.
I do wish, though, that someone could suggest better language for this important experience/feeling/emotion.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/20/2008 8:12:34 PM   
hallieB


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Status: offline 		Sounds like an intense moment to me, I can only imagine what you were feeling. For me ultimate trust comes in a different form, It is saying I love you. For me giving Master access to my heart, the most vulnerable part of my body  is the hardest thing that I have been asked to do. When you open your heart up to someone, there is no safety net, no back up plan. A broken heart is the worst pain I have ever experience. You can break bones and tear the skin and it will heal, But a heart never heals and you carry the pain with you forever.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/20/2008 8:36:21 PM   
Littlepita


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Status: offline 		Not sure about ultimate trust but I have come to expect my Sir to behave in a way that I can count on. I know that he will never intentionally do something that would cause damage to me physically or emotionally. However, we are into risk play, such as breath play, and shit happens.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/21/2008 5:44:42 PM   
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Like others, trust doesn't have much to do with playtime for me. The point of view I've come to adopt is that trusting someone to not kill me isn't that big of a deal - I trust everyone else on the road when I drive to the store to serve their car and do that. And I don't even know them!

My trust comes out more when I handed him my pin number and decided that he was the man I wanted to father my children.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/21/2008 5:51:48 PM   
lronitulstahp


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Status: offline 		For me,  trust is letting someone know they have the ability to break your heart.  So falling in love, more than any act would demonstrate my trust.  Only once, have i let a Dom meet my kids....that for me, was ultimate trust.  Trusting someone with those i love most in the world...

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