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What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 3:37:12 PM   
puella


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Status: offline 		Normally, I think I would find Sarah Palins latest answer to that question a bit embarrassing, sad and perhaps even humorous in a cringe inducing sort of way.... but with her answer during the debate and in other interviews where she expresses a desire to expand the role of the Vice President , a la Cheney, I find this response more disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA


"...[The Vice President is] in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes ..."
 
NO, Sarah, the Vice President is NOT in charge of the Senate, he/she does NOT orchestrate policy changes via the legislative branch, because the Vice President, whether Cheney likes it or not, is NOT a part of the legislative branch.  The only thing the VP does with the senate is break a tie. The founding fathers did NOT leave a lot of leeway and flexibility to grant the VP some sort of ruling hand over the senate.  It is not the VP's job to "administer the plans" the Executive branch thinks are pressing.  There is nothing for you to "tap into with that position".

If you do not know what your job description is, are you really ready to assume that role? 

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 3:39:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess you can either learn on the job

Or make the job fit your preferences and ideas of what it should be

I think everyone agrees that Washington needs change?

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:12:49 PM   
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Only problem......the President can't do that.

Neither one of them knows the job.


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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:22:30 PM   
puella


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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:25:37 PM   
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In the recent past,the VP did relatively nothing,other than be there.They can break tie votes in the Senate,and some other small tasks like that.

VP Gore was a pretty active VP and transformed the office into a more active participant in carrying out policy.

VP Cheney has transformed the office too,kinda.In reality,he calls the shots while Bush plays the absentee CEO roll,showing up for photo ops and sitting at board meetings,but otherwise out to lunch,or golfing,or cutting brush while others run things.

At this point puella,the VP is one of the main enablers of the president`s policy or at least,they should be and no longer just sits around waiting.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:27:05 PM   
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Is it just me, or is this not more than a bit unnerving??


It's not just you; anyone with a brain is feeling unnerved. 

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:27:28 PM   
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I think everyone agrees that Washington needs change?

E


Well, none of McCain, Obama, Palin or Biden are going to bring any change. They're *ALL* Career Politicians -- and the only real difference between any of them is how long they've been sucking off the Public Teat, and how effective sucklings they are.

It ain't like *any* of them represent any of our interests...

OR

Taxation "with representation" ain't no picnic either.



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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:31:17 PM   
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She`s hawt...

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:33:55 PM   
puella


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Status: offline 		Well, legitimately, the VP can be given duties by the President (I am sure John Adams would have loved to have been of more use).  Those duties however, remain of the executive branch...they cannot some how morph the VPinto the leader of the Senate... that would be the Senate Majority Leader's job (really, you would think the title alone would explain itself to Ms. Palin...).

It is the expansion of powers, slyly (like with a jack-hammer in the case of Cheney) chiseling away the legitimacy and potency of the other, co-equal branches of government which is really troubling...

The problem is that she really does not KNOW this...it is not the first time she has made this mistake, which makes me think it is something she would persue if in the role of the VP.

Good God, y'all!

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:35:34 PM   
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I love the red leather top.I imagine she`s the whip holder in the scene.

She`s hawt...


Hehe, funny, it reminded me of Michael Jackson's outfit in Beat It...just give her a white glove!

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:35:47 PM   
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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:43:52 PM   
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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:49:49 PM   
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In the recent past,the VP did relatively nothing,other than be there.They can break tie votes in the Senate,and some other small tasks like that.

VP Gore was a pretty active VP and transformed the office into a more active participant in carrying out policy.

VP Cheney has transformed the office too,kinda.In reality,he calls the shots while Bush plays the absentee CEO roll,showing up for photo ops and sitting at board meetings,but otherwise out to lunch,or golfing,or cutting brush while others run things.

At this point puella,the VP is one of the main enablers of the president`s policy or at least,they should be and no longer just sits around waiting.


Don't forget (perhaps the two most important jobs of VP) -

Taking people hunting and shooting them in the face.

Ordering subordinants to reveal the identity of CIA operatives when their spouses challenge the doctored intelligence you use to justify going to war.

I think that about covers it.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:52:24 PM   
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I think she heard the VP was the president of the Senate,and took it to mean that the VP literally ran the Senate.

I believe Senate President, is just a title.Yes?

You`re right about Palin being clueless about being clueless.She seems so damm sure that the VP runs the Senate and can`t wait to get in there and do things.Very funny if it wasn`t so frightening.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 4:57:53 PM   
puella


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I love the red leather top.I imagine she`s the whip holder in the scene.

She`s hawt...


Oy!!  And this!  $150,000 for clothes and make up since she signed on???  Do you suppose the GOP gets to keep all the clothes after the elections?  Maybe sell them on ebay and try to recoup some of the donors losses??

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

Dang, with shopping sprees like that, it's no wonder Obama can spend more money on adverts.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 5:15:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well to be fair to Sarah,she has been watching Cheney carve out a new and heretofore never before seen fiefdom,these last 8 years....a  Washington Outsider could very well get confused.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 5:15:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: puella

Normally, I think I would find Sarah Palins latest answer to that question a bit embarrassing, sad and perhaps even humorous in a cringe inducing sort of way.... but with her answer during the debate and in other interviews where she expresses a desire to expand the role of the Vice President , a la Cheney, I find this response more disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA


"...[The Vice President is] in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes ..."
 
NO, Sarah, the Vice President is NOT in charge of the Senate, he/she does NOT orchestrate policy changes via the legislative branch, because the Vice President, whether Cheney likes it or not, is NOT a part of the legislative branch.  The only thing the VP does with the senate is break a tie. The founding fathers did NOT leave a lot of leeway and flexibility to grant the VP some sort of ruling hand over the senate.  It is not the VP's job to "administer the plans" the Executive branch thinks are pressing.  There is nothing for you to "tap into with that position".

If you do not know what your job description is, are you really ready to assume that role? 


I own and preside over three companies, and I have yet, after 30 years figured out my job description....last time I checked...they're still paying me.

Seems to be working out for the staff....so I'm not complaining.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 5:16:53 PM   
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Taking people hunting and shooting them in the face.



At least with Palin, we know that when she shoots something in the face... she means it.

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 5:21:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: puella

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I love the red leather top.I imagine she`s the whip holder in the scene.

She`s hawt...


Oy!!  And this!  $150,000 for clothes and make up since she signed on???  Do you suppose the GOP gets to keep all the clothes after the elections?  Maybe sell them on ebay and try to recoup some of the donors losses??

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

Dang, with shopping sprees like that, it's no wonder Obama can spend more money on adverts.


The republicans really took the whole " putting lipstick on a pig" seriously didn't they.

K

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RE: What does the Vice President Do???? - 10/21/2008 5:27:04 PM   
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