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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 5:05:54 PM   
Aileen68


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There's that vibe...definitely different from just confidence.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 5:22:14 PM   
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quote:

he told me that he'd "dominated the ham."


Ewww!

Like in 'American Pie' ?


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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 5:24:55 PM   
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I hope they are better than the ones that crawl out from under their rocks.
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heyyyyyyyyyy

no fair talkin 'bout me when i wasn't lookin..........

lol

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 5:25:49 PM   
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I would think a turkey would be easier and more satisfying than a ham for him. And would explain the secret to the yummy stuffing.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 5:35:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

heyyyyyyyyyy

no fair talkin 'bout me when i wasn't lookin..........

lol


You would never be under a rock. Word around town is that you make a mean martini.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 5:47:02 PM   
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would'nt a 'rump roast' be much more fun to dominate? After all a bottom is a bottom and umm...good for spanking? * winces*



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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 6:06:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68


quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

heyyyyyyyyyy

no fair talkin 'bout me when i wasn't lookin..........

lol


You would never be under a rock. Word around town is that you make a mean martini.




Still waiting on the martini here by the way.... LOL

As far as confidence or sub vibe.... I think when they mix, it's picked up on big time. Especially by another sub or Dom. It's all in the way feel with yourself. And present yourself to others.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 6:30:34 PM   
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I think I know how you feel, when you feel like you exude your sexuality and it permeates to every facet of your being and every insignificant choice you make and every detail of your being is an expression of yourself. Yes, I think confidence has a lot to do with it, but its also deeper, like finding yourself after being lost... not only finding yourself but truely loving what you find. For me it feels like this zenful inner grace that is with me all the time. I dont "act submissive" every minute of my life because I dont need to, that wonderful feeling is there with me always. Congrats on your new found freedom!

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 6:59:54 PM   
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I almost fell off the treadmill when he told me that he'd "dominated the ham."


Awwwwwwwwwww, Christ Almighty, now I got that stuck in my head.....

Did he give you any websites to browse, Katy?

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 7:25:53 PM   
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Aileen, I know exactly what you are saying. I used to fight to cover up my submissiveness. I didn't really have a name for it, but associated it with my femininity (not that Dommes are not luciously femme, just describing my own core) It wasn't until I was introduced to D/s that I realized my sexual fantasies, which I knew had SM tones, had to do with my emotional traits: that there was a link! Not only my inner link...but an organized "whatever"!

I really fought to cover my vulnerability. Today, I realize it is a strength. One's own being, confidence in who we are: is strength.

I think I even look happier. I smile at strangers (damn! gets me in trouble...nah, joking) and walk that sexy stroll of a woman who knows who she is. Yeah...... it gets noticed. Home Depot (giggle) B+ N, supermarket... wherever.

We are fortunate to be able to learn, live and love. Aren't we?

Thanks to all .... fawne



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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 7:31:33 PM   
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It's taken me many years to acknowledge and accept the fact that I am a submissive woman. I think it had a lot to do with realizing that I can be submissive and still be strong, independent and free thinking. They can go hand in hand. It's this realization and acceptance that has allowed me to become extremely comfortable and confident in the last half year or so with who I am and what I need. I've noticed, as has my family and friends, that there is a certain calmness about me now. I still look the same. I still dress the same. I still do the same day to day things. But I have to tell you that I have men coming out of the woodwork lately trying to connect with me, whether it's standing on line at the store, walking through Home Depot or browsing books and B&N. I chalk it up to what I call my sub vibe since nothing else in my life has changed. So I guess my question is...do you think there is such a thing as a sub vibe? A Dom/Domme vibe? Or am I just crazy?


Congratulations. By my method of accounting you're two thirds of the way there.

My prediction is that you are very much going to enjoy it--and blossom both as a person and as a submissive--when you've gotten to the point where you can say "I'm submissive" without having to append "but I'm smart and strong and independent (etc.) too."

For my part I consistently get a clearer sense of strength and independence from the woman who can calmly say: "Yes, I'm submissive" and let it ring in the air.

How often do you hear doms intone: "..(I'm a domly dom, but) I am also smart and strong and independent"?

Now you might point out in response that there is some sort of assumption that dominance is accompanied by or even in part made of those qualities. Any experienced person knows that domination can occur from weakness and insecurity. The assumption that a dom will be smart and strong and independent is as invalid as the assumption that submissiveness won't be. Now of course someone will post and explain to us the difference between that kind of domination and TRUE domination, and thereby illustrate for us just the sort of intelligence that they are bringing to the party.

There may be some readers who need to be told that submission in general--and yours in particular--doesn't involve weakness and stupidity. But do you really care what those people think? Any bright person will recognize instantly the people who lack the depth or sensitivity to appreciate these basic facts--and treat them accordingly. Do the potential friends or lovers you're looking for need to hear this? No. They already know. If you want the attention of the knuckleheads, talk to the knuckleheads. If you want the attention of people who know their (or your) ass from a hole in the ground then address them at a level which is founded upon your shared awareness of how the world turns.

Claims to intelligence are suspect at best. Think of the three smartest people you know. How often have you heard them say: "I'm smart."? Now how often have you heard them say so during an introduction? I know some really smart people and I have never heard any of them make such a claim in that very particularlets get one thing straight sort of mode.

Everybody is intelligent. Really. And everybody is stupid. That might sound like a pair of generalizations. It isn't. It is a carefully considered and razor-sharp description of the human race as I've encountered it. I'm charmed over and over again by the stupidity of my "brilliant" friends (and occasionally horrified by the stupidities of less good-hearted brilliant people) As well I'm frequently, very frequently, charmed by the genius of my "stupid" friends. I hope I charm them all as much, and in the same ways, as they do me.

On the other hand I try not to horrify anyone whose opinion I care about unless I intend to tie her up fairly soon.

There are all kinds of intelligence. I've never met anyone who didn't have something or other over on me. Show what kind you've got, and how much. In your case, Aileen, you posts show it. No need for the saying.

As far as the guys and the woodwork, well, us guys can smell easy pussy a mile away.



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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 7:43:40 PM   
Noah


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

There's that vibe...definitely different from just confidence.


.. and before I forget...

So who inserts the bigger vibes, subs or dommes?

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 7:48:07 PM   
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Oh and oops. I've never seen American Pie.
I truly think he was proud of the job he did in preparing and baking the ham.
I don't think he did anything icky to it.
At least I hope not.
And now I have a bad picture of him in my mind. Doing bad things to innocent hams. ewww.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 7:56:01 PM   
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quote:

I've always been strong in my life and confident, but it wasn't until I embraced my submissivieness with my confidence did everything fall into place.

I'll take a different angle and say that it isn't a sub vibe but just a relaxed poise and inner peace. I will theorize that just as people under stress will hunch their shoulders and tense other muscles the inner tension you felt before could also have affected your posture. Now that you are free of it your body exhibits nonverbal cues that weren't there before.

But hey, as long as they're circling like bees to the honey I suppose such nuances really don't matter. Just flaunt it!

< Message edited by happypervert -- 12/12/2005 7:57:13 PM >


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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 8:01:29 PM   
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Hey, as long as ham is not a hard limit for you and everyone is comfortable...you are good to go!

On a more serious note, I like the comment regarding the need to amend "I am submissive" with "but I am also strong and smart, etc." Subsitute in another label or personality trait like "I am a woman" or "I am African American" or "I am a musician" and it would sound pretty silly. Although I never thought it sounded odd before. Shame on me.

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us guys can smell easy pussy a mile away


That is just plain funny. To me.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 8:07:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Noah

As far as the guys and the woodwork, well, us guys can smell easy pussy a mile away.



Boys will be boys

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 8:42:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

As far as the guys and the woodwork, well, us guys can smell easy pussy a mile away.



Boys will be boys



And long may it wave!



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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 8:46:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sensualips

Hey, as long as ham is not a hard limit for you and everyone is comfortable...you are good to go!

On a more serious note, I like the comment regarding the need to amend "I am submissive" with "but I am also strong and smart, etc." Subsitute in another label or personality trait like "I am a woman" or "I am African American" or "I am a musician" and it would sound pretty silly. Although I never thought it sounded odd before. Shame on me.


Of course the exception shows the rule. Consider: "I am a drummer, but ... "


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That is just plain funny. To me.


As it would be to any intelligent person, honey.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/12/2005 9:09:48 PM   
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.. and before I forget...

So who inserts the bigger vibes, subs or dommes?


Oh most definitely the Doms. You should know that already, Noah.

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RE: You just have to love that sub vibe - 12/13/2005 4:29:18 AM   
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i know what you mean, Aileen. it's beyond confidence. it's a certain kind of confidence ... and then some. and it's so subtle.

men, traditionally, open doors for women. i've had awful days (bad hair, no makeup, not enough sleep, cranky, sad ...) and men have opened doors for me and i just know it was nothing more than politeness.

i've had days where i was dressed up and feeling extremely confident in my looks and men have opened doors for me ... and i knew it more an act of submission on their part.

aaaand ... there have been days (most days) where i feel completely me ... totally submissive, demure, humble, sexy, soft and feminine. and those days i know that when the men opened the doors for me .. it was more like they were leading me.

we all exude energy (vibes). and those who "fit" into our world (so to speak) will feel it and send off their own. we're like pieces of a puzzle and it's almost celebratory to find matching pieces.

enjoy.

humbly,
sunshine

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