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ORIGINAL: softness

I work with a lot of teen girls who cut because they want to hurt themselves (I work with a lot that need release as well but I pass their cases on elsewhere - hardly being the best person to guide them) the girls that cut to hurt are punishing themselves, hurting themselves because they think they deserve. The are what I consider true self harmers because they are actively seeking to damage and cause harm to their bodies. I make a choice not to work with people who "self harm" for physical emotional or psychological release because that is *exactly* what I do when I engage in sado-masoschistic play. It would be like being lecturing against the evils of drugs and then going home and doing a line of charlie off the kitchen  counter. There is a world of difference between self harm and what Missturbation is talking about ... just as there is between an abusive home and a D/s one

Self masochism is as risky and dangerous as when someone else does it you.. and has similar if not identical risks and dangers to what can happen inside a relationship. Now obviously there are health and safety issues of not having another pair of hands available .. I think everyone can accept that its as stupid and dangerous as all the other stupid dangerous stuff we do in the comfort of our own homes.

I will admit that occassionally I cause myself pain in order to intensify the physical release I get from masturbation; nothing serious, particularly dangerous or even remotely harmful. I am not doing it with negative reasons or out of control emotions, my aim is not to harm or damage myself. Therefore I think it is as healthy/unhealthy as my reasons for engaging in sado-masochistic play .... and lets face it .. the law in the UK says that I must be criminally insane or somesuch to be consenting to that.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Woahhh...wait a minute....you mean ALL women don't masterbate that way?  Crap...maybe I HAVE been self-harming....

No not all women masturbate in this way

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

There are some really vile and disgusting things some women do.  Any woman who would be sick enough that when she is alone and in the dark to put clothespins on her cunt and clit, clamp them down on her tongue and nipples, who would rape her ass with a dildo, shove an inflatible ball gag into her mouth and god knows what other fucked up obscene stuff just for foreplay is exactly the sort I that drives me insane with lust.

I am going to have to add all that to my application form because any woman who wouldn't, well why bother?

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ORIGINAL: ThundersCry

Ask a cutter...

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
So my questions are do you equate a physical masochist who self harms as the same as a stereo typical self harmer?
Can self masochism be healthy?
If so why / If not why?
Anyone any experience of self masochism, not stereo typical self harm?

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ORIGINAL: FRSguy
Unhealthy,
What happens when you get bored with yourself and the thrill is gone?  Do you just go into something bigger, riskier more painful?
How do you know your not just fooling yourself saying something is healthy and you have a healthy attitude towards it when in reality you could be justifing self destructive behavior and what not. I think you really need another person to create and maintain a ballance because there is a tendency for people to go overboard on shit when they do it by themselves... kind of like drinking or any other self indulgent thing shit gets out of hand way to easy.

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ORIGINAL: teensub

For me it is an easy way to deal with things. It never used to harm anyone but me, but now i am with M it harms him when i do it..so that is why i am trying to overcome it.

It becomes more than self masochism and becomes something much more harm full to those around me that i care and love

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
at one point you should switch to not harming yourself because you are precious, not only to somebody else but also to yourself.