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...i've been saving this post for a while.......however, as we now have a poster who characterises abortion as stab stab sucky suck, and calls it feticide i figure it's time.
Pro-life people are anti-Christian. That's the hypothesis. Let me explain.
Way back in the Garden of Eden, God placed the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge there and told Adam and Eve to leave them alone. Why? Why put them where Adam and Eve could get to them? i mean, God has the whole of creation to play with....so why put them where Adam and Eve can even get close? There's only one possible explanation that jibes with God not being an utter bastard. Free Will.
God doesn't want people to follow because they have no choice. He doesn't want people to worship Him blindly. It has to be a decision. There has to be Free Will.
Now the pro-life position, as it applies to changing legislation, removes choice. Removes the element of free will from the equation. That position seeks to do something that God Himself forebore to do. Remove the element of choice. This is clearly hubris.
Thus, my hypothesis runs, those that seek to change legislation to make abortion illegal are anti-Christian. They have forgotten the first principle.......free will.
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As I see it regarding this sensitive topic,the paradox of free will is what causes the problem. Pro-Lifers believe that a fetus has no free will thus they believe that abortion does not have this free will thus abortion is murder. The Pro-Choice groups fight to retain their free will to have a say over their own bodies. Then throw in the religious groups who believe that all life is sacred and should be allowed to exist; no matter what.
Note: to this day, not a single person has been able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the existance of what soul is
This leads to another paradox over the fact that there is no standard and acceptable agreement to when life begins.The church believes life starts at conception, pro-choice groups believe life begins when the fetus is born and the umbilical cord is severed from it's mother and most if not all pro-life people believe life begins in the womb. So in my eyes, until we are able to determine exactly when a fetus is a living person with a soul, then the arguments of if it's abortion or murder is moot point.
From a biological POV, a fetus is basically a mass of tissue that derives it's nourishment from through the cord that's attached to the parent. In essence it can be classified as a symbiotic parasite that depends upon it's host for survival. Before anyone gets their knickers in an uproar, consider this: the fetus is not a simple mass of cells but a mass of sepicialized cells that develop into a quite complex form. From a theological POV, the fetus though still in the womb is a separate person with a soul.
I will not state whether I am personally pro-lie, pro-choice since it has no bearing on my opinion I have written here. Though I do want to say that the arguement about "well, what if my mother aborted me," or "what if Einsein's mother aborted him?" is a pile of bullshit. "What Ifs" are just that, "what ifs." We can not base anything on a "what if" simply because it is just an assumption. To do otherwise is just self deluding ourselves to believing that we have the ability to control something which is and was beyond our control and prior to our ablility to be self aware.
Yes I am grateful I was not aborted while I was in my mother's womb, and I am also grateful that other people were not aborted in thier mother's womb either. I have no idea what would cause a woman to be driven to seek an abortion and I will never know. What I know is hearing experiences from other women and female friends who underwent an abortion. All I know is every single person on this planet should have the free will to make conciencious choices regarding their own body. This is my $5.00 worth from a male POV
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