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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 10:09:53 AM

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1. If I tell my beloved slave to be somewhere I know he will be, I trust him 101%
2. Like I have time to sit around and track him, on the off chance he may stray from a allowed "sector".

There are "sectors" that are not allowed?

In the device my Master had, it would beep his cell phone if you traveled outside a "permitted" zone. Cool, huh? I wanted to go right up to the line and put my toe over it to see what happened. But then I liked to drive him crazy like that.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 10:27:49 AM

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Some have already said it, that you should not need to track your property in such a manner. My girl very rarely disobeys, and then it is not usually intentional. On the very rare occasions she has, her shame always gets the best of her and she tells me within a couple of days at most. She knows that if I find out by other methods that her punishment will be much more severe.

See. There's that 'should' word... I don't think there are -any- 'shoulds' or 'should nots' in general... only between specific individuals in their own defining of their relationship. There is, IMO, nothing that a particular person 'should' or 'shouldn't' do in order to be a "good" D type or S type person. The only key is in finding people who get inspired or enticed by the same twists and turns that you like for your own road.

Personally, I find this kinda hot... probably not for an everyday thing... but on occasion, I think it would be interesting... so what if I -want- to control hir movements sometimes, or track them...

Maybe this is something that correlates to my love for protocol, because it seems really cool to me to be able to direct someone this way on occasion, as suits my fancy.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 12:27:41 PM

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I wouldn't have any problem with someone tracking my daily movements. There isn't anywhere I go that I would care if my whereabouts were known. Then again, as it stands, my daily movements amount to pretty much no more than a 10 block radius. Can you tell how much I despise gas prices? The only time I would have concerns is if my movements were questioned on a consistent basis. Then I might begin to feel as if I wasn't trusted, and that would most definitely NOT be hot.

From a purely mental aspect, it would be hot in that it would be like having this top-secret invisible leash on... I could see some fun games arising. A new twist on the scavenger hunt. A fun way to play capture the submissive (instead of capture the flag).

From a purely practical point of view, considering the number of times in the past (not even I get lost in only 10 blocks phew) I"ve called my friend Bill up crying because I was lost - a GPS is definitely the way to go.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 1:56:11 PM

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i wouldn't like having my daily movements "tracked". it would send a message that Daddy doesn't trust me.

Interesting. To me, s-types who like mounting these sort of arguments seem like the sort motivated in their thinking by suspicion rather than their own trust.

Funny how interpretations can be made like that...

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 1:58:26 PM

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The issue with this is that there's a fine line between having fun and not having fun. If you're doing this because you think micro-management is hot. It's fun. If you're doing it because you have major control issues and you have to know where you SO is at all times.....you need counseling.

Really?

Even if the your partner is perfectly content with that micromanagement? Do feel free to explain what neurosis exhibited by such an act would entail the need for counseling and how that neurosis would be anything other than self-diagnosis.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 1:58:52 PM

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I like it! Clever.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 2:02:38 PM

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i wouldn't like having my daily movements "tracked". it would send a message that Daddy doesn't trust me.

Interesting. To me, s-types who like mounting these sort of arguments seem like the sort motivated in their thinking by suspicion rather than their own trust.

funny - that's your own assumption and interpration about me.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 2:05:24 PM

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funny - that's your own assumption and interpration about me.

My appraisal of your capacity to understand irony would also be an "interpration" (sic)...

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 2:06:30 PM

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i saw no irony in your statement

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 2:52:25 PM

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Protocol would be having them kneel and tell you where they went, step by step. Should is a word I use when expressing my opinion, so it is a personal thing. If using electronics to track the every movement of your slave gets you off, then go for it, they are your property to do as you see fit.

I am not sure if it would relate to love of protocol, as there is a protocol in my home for just about everything, including going to the bathroom.

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Some have already said it, that you should not need to track your property in such a manner. My girl very rarely disobeys, and then it is not usually intentional. On the very rare occasions she has, her shame always gets the best of her and she tells me within a couple of days at most. She knows that if I find out by other methods that her punishment will be much more severe.

See. There's that 'should' word... I don't think there are -any- 'shoulds' or 'should nots' in general... only between specific individuals in their own defining of their relationship. There is, IMO, nothing that a particular person 'should' or 'shouldn't' do in order to be a "good" D type or S type person. The only key is in finding people who get inspired or enticed by the same twists and turns that you like for your own road.

Personally, I find this kinda hot... probably not for an everyday thing... but on occasion, I think it would be interesting... so what if I -want- to control hir movements sometimes, or track them...

Maybe this is something that correlates to my love for protocol, because it seems really cool to me to be able to direct someone this way on occasion, as suits my fancy.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/28/2008 9:11:51 PM

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Definitely is hot for me. Not because of trust or transparency or anything...just because it's flattering that someone would want to be that intimate with me and nice to know even if I got lost (which I often do) I can still be found :)

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 6:56:17 AM

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Nothing new really. If Master wanted he could track me on his cell. He has the "Kid Find" feature. you connect your kid's (or sub's) phone to yours so you can track where they are when ever you want.

He joked about doing it but never has.

That "Kid Find" feature appears to only be available in Canada. To bad it sounds like something I might like. Not for my sub, I trust her. Now my soon to be 13 year old, well that's a different story.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 7:26:28 AM

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The issue with this is that there's a fine line between having fun and not having fun. If you're doing this because you think micro-management is hot. It's fun. If you're doing it because you have major control issues and you have to know where you SO is at all times.....you need counseling.

Really?

Even if the your partner is perfectly content with that micromanagement? Do feel free to explain what neurosis exhibited by such an act would entail the need for counseling and how that neurosis would be anything other than self-diagnosis.

Paranoid Obsessive.

Again, I stated it's all in the intention. It can be fun or it can cross the line into unhealthy.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 7:29:26 AM

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1. If I tell my beloved slave to be somewhere I know he will be, I trust him 101%
2. Like I have time to sit around and track him, on the off chance he may stray from a allowed "sector".

There are "sectors" that are not allowed?

Kinda like a no fly zone ..the same but different

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 8:02:24 AM

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Definitely is hot for me. Not because of trust or transparency or anything...just because it's flattering that someone would want to be that intimate with me and nice to know even if I got lost (which I often do) I can still be found :)

Well I'm not "navigationally challenged" like LA, but I agree with the rest of her post. I think it would be hot! Although He'd probably have something to say about how often I go to Walmart. LOL! I'm soooooooo boring!

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 8:42:52 AM

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Again, I stated it's all in the intention. It can be fun or it can cross the line into unhealthy.

Absolutely. My former Master would have used it for fun. My ex husband would have used it as a way to keep tabs on me and question me about every move I was making. Because this handy-dandy little device was not yet invented when I was still with him, he instead just called me several times an hour to check up on me. When I didn't answer (because after awhile, well, sheesh), he would go nuts on me when I got home (even if I didn't answer because I was at work all day).

Definitely paranoid obsession.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 10:42:14 AM

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As others have said, to each their own. While some here say that using GPS to monitor a slave or sub's whereabouts shows a lack of trust or insufficient training, that's just their opinion and feeling. Like anything from high heels to heavy pain, some people enjoy a particular kink, and to others, it's a turn-off.

For me, I happen to think it's very, very hot and know a domme who found it a hot idea as well. She loved to "micro-manage" me via text messages and requiring me to report everywhere I went, and I enjoyed the loss of control myself. It was both scary and hot in that I had no choice. We considered the GPS type cell-phone tracking, but didn't get to that point.

Note to those who mentioned that the "kid tracking" feature was "only available in Canada" -- that's not true. I don't know about all the cell phone companies in the US, but mine (Sprint) certainly offers this in the US. I could have signed up my phone as a "child phone" to be monitored and given her the password for web access. Since she was also on Sprint, it turns out they had a special web version formatted for use on her Treo so she could have tracked me from her phone, no matter where she was.

Very hot.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 10:58:21 AM

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It can be fun or it can cross the line into unhealthy.

Since "unhealthy" is something determined within each individual dynamic, it seems a bit of a tautology to have to state it.

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorders don't manifest themselves in ways that would infringe upon the dynamics of a D/s relationship any more than other less consistently stringent requirements. And "intent" seems moot since, if you're trying to reduce the reasons to psychological motivations, they are not done because of a disproportionate view of the s-type by the D-type. It's just part of the character traits of the D-type...ones which, I'd presume, the s-type has come to understand before jumping headlong into full commitment.

Paranoid personality disorder might be more applicable, but considering the nature of the disorder it yet again seems redundant to say that a relationship with an individual who displays signs of PPD might not be a good idea...and it certainly does not support any necessary correlation of interest in GPS control directly to PPD.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 2:43:40 PM

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Both Neest and I have GPS built into our mobile (cell) phones and into the car so is lost we or they can be found. We never move even at home without our phones. For us it is part of our personal security package laid on by the Fed Govt anyway. All slaves would be issued with phones on leaving the home and such phones would have GPS.

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RE: GPS Control for sub - 10/29/2008 5:37:24 PM

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IB, my understanding is your phone needs to be relatively late model to have this feature. Mine's 4 years old so I can't get it. However having spent a week at a horse show with my oldest who does have this on hers, I'm seriously thinking of blocking it. Talking on a cell in a car is distracting, but that is nothing compared to trying to follow the damned directions while driving.

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