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Termyn8or -> RE: Fact or useful fiction ? (10/28/2008 9:03:37 AM)
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It's not a war on terror. We whined about 3,000 people after killing manyfold that number, and we did it first. It is a war of terror.
Moslems can be peaceful people, they really can. Left to their own devices and to settle their own borders, claim their territory and hold it, everything would be fine. However there seems to be this international body who thinks that they have the God given right to establish borders, create coutries and all that.
In other words, remember Czechoslovakia ? Czechs and Slovaks hated each other, and even when forced together after WW2 they didn't really mingle to the point where they ever attained any significant form of solidarity, which is what the God blessed world leaders want in the first place. Notice there is no Czechoslovakia now.
So maybe the same should happen in Iraq. Let them fight it out and become three seperate countries or at least semi-sovereign provinces (to distribute the oil revenues in a fair manner). Let them set their own laws and leave them alone. Just buy their oil and shut the fuck up. If they fight over the money, what do we care ?
Another thing these chosen ones should consider is to stop dictating who shall be the dictators of the entire world. Someone mentioned Pinochet in another thread, how did he get into power ? In fact Saddam was our boy, and he was real friendly when we were at odds with Iran when they stormed our embassy and held those people captive for how many days ? I can figure out the number of days if you like but the formula is thus -
Day of siege on the US embassy in Iran.
Number of days remaining in the Carter administration.
You see the Shah of Iran was nasty and they were going to torture him of course, returning the favor he bestowed on so many there. People want to look into where Obama's campaign funds came from, how about a look at where Carter's came from. You don't think a peanut farmer made all that money do you ?
The fact of the matter is that we have been meddling in their internal affairs for a very long time. We have allowed Israel to commit atrocities and even supported them with weapons and money. The only thing we didn't send was lawyers, they seem to have enough. And then they attacked our own USS Liberty and the administration turned a deal ear to the crew's cries for help.
If you have any fucking question in your mind why these people hate us so, just turn off the TV and learn a bit of history. And I am not even touching on the Palestinians right now. Between England, the US and Israel we have puissed off a very large nation, that I might add, now has no real borders thanks to our little team.
They know our elections are rigged. Even without vote fraud, who selects these evils of which we must choose the lesser ? Well we want to rig the elections all over the world like that. Sure your vote counts, you can have tweedle dee or tweedle dum.
Useful fiction I say. This triad of countries is hell bent on world domination. The figureheads in England like Blair was and like Bush is, are merely puppets. Israel actually runs the show, and rightly so because our figureheads are pretty much brainless. And the stupid populations of the US and England vote based on who has a nicer tie it seems. I can find no other logical reason that Bush was elected to a second term.
I say get out and provide a REAL defense that works, unlike 9/11/01. Let the Arabs cut people's hands off for stealing, oppress their Women and do those Arab things they do. They are not ready to assimilate into the culture of the modern world. They don't want it and hell, some of their Women don't even want it. They want to be as they are and I think they have the right to be as they are. Buy the oil, pay the money and go. I don't care who is in power, just give the money to whoever can come up with the oil. Fuck everything else.
The Israeli/Palestinian problem is unsolvable, and Israel should just do what they want. We close our eyes for a few days and let them just commit total genocide. Then they can go to hell and be with their buddy Hitler, who seems to have taught them so much. Fitting, quite fitting.
Of course the Arabs won't like that, but they already hate our guts, so play the cards we have. We are experts at looking the other way when atrocities happen, as long as they don't happen to anyone useful to us. So just let it happen. Get it over with. There are clear advantages to this strategy.
Number one it will solve the Palestinian problem for Israel, which should save the US taxpayers some money, as we support their jack booted thugs these days. Secondly, people (at least "our" people) forget very quickly. Report it on the news and then just segue into a fluff piece, like a new and unusual hairstyle. Thirdly, by stepping out of the picture we are absolved of further crimes, Israel wants them, let Israel do them. The US can then slowly regain respect in the world.
Yes, what I am saying is to just STOP. Unfortunately we started most of it. It will take a long time to get rid of this black eye we wear in the eyes of the world, but you have to start somewhere. And IMO if you want to stop making enemies, a good way to start is to stop dropping bombs on people. Over a hundred fucking years these airheads have not figured that out.
The war of terror is simple. It is apparently a license to go anywhere in the world and influence politics and religion wherever we don't like what we see. It is a means to an end, which is world domination. That FACT is not spoken of to the people, but it is the same thing. The Israelis are the masterminds and really, they are the only ones with enough brains to pull it off. They are getting dangerously close, with our help of course. Our supposed leaders have the same ambitions of course, but are not schooled well enough in the ways of the world to get it done, so are therefore happy to be the minions.
The way I see it, we are hurting and therefore there are only two logical courses of action.
One would be to pull out. Do nothing. Let it be and whoever is alive at the end of the mayhem, sit down and make peaceful relations.
Another path would be to admit what we are, go in there and really start killing until all of our enemies are dead. Admit to the world what we want and tell them straight out that we are the boss. No more pussyfooting around. No more depleted uranium, get out the fucking ENRICHED uranium. Make a couple of glass parking lots and be done with it.
Do one or the other, rather than the semi-protracted war on who even knows who. Sustaining it for decades when we clearly cannot afford to do so. These minions are so stupid that they don't know that they are wrecking the country that has been their benefactor and allowed them to the highest levels of society (save celebs of course). Allowed them to rape the US citizenry of our money, and freedoms until there is no money or freedom anymore. Their pockets are thick. What of the people ?
Oh, and for the record, I didn't say a damn thing about Jews. I am talking about the higher ups in Israel, and I know that many Jews do not support, or at least do not fully support the actions of the government of Israel. It's the same here, before Iraq two, many US citizens were against it, but what could we do ? Nothing.
In other words, the US, England and Israel are the new axis powers. They have been operating for a long time in the global sphere of influence and if you can't see by now what the ultimate goal is, you need glasses at the very least.
Do I think Israel wants world domination ? Of course they do. Anyone who craves power does, but that doesn't leave out the idiots we have who go along with anything no matter what it does to their constituents. We actually have some smart people as well, but most are similarly afflicted with this addiction to power.
Look at the bigger picture. Right there in the UN charter they have defined peace. It is SPECIFICALLY defined as "the absence of opposition". Figure out what that means, if there is opposition, how do you achieve the absence of oppostition ? You kill, and that means war.
So I say bet the maximum or fold, and I am not quite sure what is in our hand, but it is said that poker is not won by a good hand, it is won by a good player, and indeed I have seen this. Betting the max would mean going and killing to the last Man, Woman and child. Folding would be to get out. Period.
It is your turn to bet, what say you ?
T
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