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Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 11:18:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Being that we call America the land of the free,
 
I was just wondering how other countries viewed the Bdsm lifestyle?
 
I know that America is pretty laid back, and unless someone is killed by the lifestyle, I know that what we do in our own homes is private to us and the World doesn't have to know about it.
 
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 11:39:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Depends what part of the US you are in actually. Not all areas are accepting of alternative lifestyles.

I heard about SM clubs in England way before i ever heard of them in the US, but maybe that's just cause of the research i was doing.

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 11:57:46 AM   
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 12:04:33 PM   
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 1:36:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's pretty laid back here in the Land Down Under. You'd have to have a formal complaint laid with the Police before they will take action as far as SM goes (Not 100% sure  but depending on an individual State), I have an idea that as long as an agreement and waiver was worded correctly a Dominant coluld be covered from malicious prosecution (much as the waivers work in the SCA and other such groups which have some danger involved in their activities). More likely a dammaged sub/slave could have grounds for civil litigation if the Dominant really screwed up and ignored all safety. 

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 1:39:54 PM   
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 2:06:36 PM   
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Being that we call America the land of the free,

I know that America is pretty laid back, and unless someone is killed by the lifestyle, I know that what we do in our own homes is private to us and the World doesn't have to know about it.

Any thoughts?


Not entirely so. America is a quilt of disparate ideas about rights of privacy, free speech and what is "decent" or not. Take a look at how critical the next Supreme Court nomination is going to be, for instance. Eight years of religious zealot conservatism in power has a lot of people nervous about being visited by men in black suits.

While our "lifestyles" do go on in America, I wouldn't exactly say our country is "laid back" about it at all. There are plenty of would-be thought police in the states who would mandate shutting down this message board on a dime if it was within their power.

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 2:12:11 PM   
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Eight years of religious zealot conservatism in power has a lot of people nervous about being visited by men in black suits. 


Not to burst your bubble or anything, but it's the left which curtails your personal rights under the guise of helping you "do what's good for you" (anti-smoking laws, fast food laws, gun laws, etc.), and limiting your rights associated with private property (see Kelo vs. New London).
 
The truth of the matter is that we are not a sympathetic constituency to either side, and it's dangerous to think that one side, or the other, is our "friend".  The best government is that which governs the least.
 
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 2:27:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian

Eight years of religious zealot conservatism in power has a lot of people nervous about being visited by men in black suits. 


Not to burst your bubble or anything, but it's the left which curtails your personal rights under the guise of helping you "do what's good for you" (anti-smoking laws, fast food laws, gun laws, etc.), and limiting your rights associated with private property (see Kelo vs. New London).
 
The truth of the matter is that we are not a sympathetic constituency to either side, and it's dangerous to think that one side, or the other, is our "friend".  The best government is that which governs the least.
 
John


Well said Sir John! Jolly well said.


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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 2:36:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Well said Sir John! Jolly well said.


I can't take credit for having said it, Iron Bear.  I was simply paraphrasing our Thomas Jefferson, who said "The government is best which governs least."
 
I long for the day when a candidate will run on the platform of "I will do less for (to) you".  I'd vote for that.
 
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 2:41:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: knees2you

Being that we call America the land of the free,
 
I was just wondering how other countries viewed the Bdsm lifestyle?
 
I know that America is pretty laid back, and unless someone is killed by the lifestyle, I know that what we do in our own homes is private to us and the World doesn't have to know about it.
 
Any thoughts?
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Having lived in the US and various European countries, I actually found Europe far more liberal

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:00:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: knees2you

I know that what we do in our own homes is private to us and the World doesn't have to know about it.
 


I reckon you could be shacked up with a penguin, here, and the government wouldn't bat a collective eye-lid. A public movement threatening the English way of life, would be a different matter altogether. 

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:03:02 PM   
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:04:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I always find deliciously ironic .. is that the main proponents of the law changes set to curb distasteful ways of life in this country ... attended schools where *to this day* fagging still occurs and prefects still dish out a lashing for little miscreants they find displeasing

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:04:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I reckon you could be shacked up with a penguin, here, and the government wouldn't bat a collective eye-lid. A public movement threatening the English way of life, would be a different matter altogether. 


Does that mean to imply that shacking up with a penguin is part of the fabric of English life?
 
Inquiring minds want to know.
 
John

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:20:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rover

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I reckon you could be shacked up with a penguin, here, and the government wouldn't bat a collective eye-lid. A public movement threatening the English way of life, would be a different matter altogether. 


Does that mean to imply that shacking up with a penguin is part of the fabric of English life?
 
Inquiring minds want to know.
 
John


I'm definately not going to think about this one.. I know way too many penguins who are members of the Most Venerable and Honoured Royal Society of Penguins, many who still mistakenly believe that it is realy Polar Bears playing cricket on the Village Greens and not rather rotund local country gentlemen dressed in whites (all the better to flag any who are in dire medical assistance due to dehydration in the guise of either cups of tea or pints of larger)

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:35:18 PM   
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is that the main proponents of the law changes set to curb distasteful ways of life in this country



'No more than points scoring. Undoubtedly, there is a conservative strand running through the veins of this country: we're one of the few countries in the Western world with a majority supporting the death penalty. Youths, hooligans, binge-drinking....you name it, the government panders to the conservative element with cheap sound-bites. Yet they are not going to even begin to think of getting in your face in your home. 'An Englishman's home is his castle' remains an indicator of the spirit of the nation, and they'll lay on a reserve penguin for you in the event your preferred penguin loses his way in the garden; don't make a nuisance of yourself in their sphere of interest, and the sentiment will be reciprocated.

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:37:02 PM   
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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:43:21 PM   
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it is jolly nice of them to be that way about penguins ... terribly understanding



Yeah, they have hundreds of years of experience in this game. Aspire to a home, a garden and a penguin, by all means; just don't go getting any big ideas, or else you'll find yourself on the wrong end of a six o'clock knock.

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RE: Dominance in other Countries? - 10/29/2008 3:46:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I reckon you could be shacked up with a penguin, here, and the government wouldn't bat a collective eye-lid. A public movement threatening the English way of life, would be a different matter altogether. 


Does that mean to imply that shacking up with a penguin is part of the fabric of English life?
 
Inquiring minds want to know.
 
John


It's enshrined in the English Bill of Rights, 1689: "law, tolerance, limited monarchy and a fine looking penguin".

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